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ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
March 27 2013 15:25 GMT
#21
W.O.W nothing else to say really. This in itself depicts the foreign sc2 scene pretty way. BW-level of segregation is not far with motivation and character levels this low
SooYoung-Noona!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 15:26:23
March 27 2013 15:25 GMT
#22
On March 28 2013 00:21 Azriel wrote:
Well, well. Looks like somebody is homesick. I guess South Korea isn't for everyone.


It was never supposed to be. Take the small talent pool you already have now divide that to a very small fraction. That's the amount of people who can adapt to those situations. Very small. Not only do you need talent. You need the right character as well which very few have.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
March 27 2013 15:28 GMT
#23
On March 28 2013 00:21 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 00:14 jakethesnake wrote:
Wow. Bummer. It's really disappointing to me that foreigners seem to give up their Code A/S spots so regularly. I realize it must be incredibly difficult for these players to be in Korea and banking so heavily on one tournament, but it is still incredibly disappointing. Especially for Stephano after going through the Up and Downs go just give it away seems like such a shame.

I would never stay more than 2 weeks in a other country in job-related reason.

man gaming is a passion. gaming in the mecca of gaming is a dream. I can name 45 foreigners in Korea who disagree with you. And thats why I never give much credit to such player like Stephano who has zero competitive spirit
Gianttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands194 Posts
March 27 2013 15:28 GMT
#24
I am really interested in experiencing Korea as they do. I mean a lot of people including me would probably think: Is it really that hard to motivate yourself to life a life like that? No one can say unless having experienced, so that's why I am so curious
Winners: It is difficult, but it's possible.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
March 27 2013 15:29 GMT
#25
Not really surprised. I don't see Stephano as the type to handle adversity well, he's only happy when things are going his way. I think this is less an issue of comfort as confidence.

Anyway, it's too bad. He was the only foreigner who could really challenge Koreans in Proleague, and I rooted for him every match despite not caring for him personally.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
m0s1n0
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany575 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 15:31:22
March 27 2013 15:29 GMT
#26
Hey guys,

I am the author of the German article on fragster. Here is a short (got not much time) translation of it:

Stephano did decide to leave Korea to regain energy in Europe (most likely back home in France) and focus on international (non-Korean) tournaments. Due to that fact he will leave Korea and will forfeit his Code S-slot. Moreover it is very likely that he will not play Proleague anymore. A possible reasons I named furthermore (the decision made me very curious because he traveled to IEM WC one day later to play Up&Down) is the training schedule they have in Korea (Stephano was always kind of a player who was not really interested in strict schedules).

Adding some rumors I saw on Reddit some hours ago (not part of the article and NOT confirmed by any evidend source):
- Maybe problems with the new Coach of EG-Liquid
- Scarlett got offered a Code S-seed but declined (before Stephano forfeit)
- Scarlett may take Stephanos slot now
http://www.fragster.de - editor in chief
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 15:30:59
March 27 2013 15:29 GMT
#27
On March 28 2013 00:25 sabas123 wrote:
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On March 28 2013 00:22 DtorR wrote:
Is there more money involved playing on international tournaments? Even though playing in GSL Code S is an honour but I feel that to win it is not worth the effort. The competition in the international level is a little easier than in Korea.

code S has more prize money but it is way easier to get money out of international tournements.


Same reason why others left and why other guys refuse to go.. Korea just needs to host more tournaments to get those guys over there. They'll just keep hosting more specials.

On March 28 2013 00:29 m0s1n0 wrote:
Hey guys,

I am the author of the German article on fragster. Here is a short (got not much time) translation of it:

Stephano did decide to leave Korea due to regain energy in Europe (most likely back home in France) and focus on international (non-Korean) tournaments. Due to that fact he will leave Korea and will forfeit his Code S-slot. Moreover it is very likely that he will not play Proleague anymore. A possible reasons I named furthermore (the decision made me very curious because he traveled to IEM WC one day later to play Up&Down) is the training schedule they have in Korea (Stephano was always kind of a player who was not really interested in strict schedules).


Ofc he won't because he's not based out of there anymore O; The PL foreigner curse continues. Really need people who want to be there. I look forward to seeing who EG's next pick-ups will be. Send in the Terrans.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 15:33:03
March 27 2013 15:30 GMT
#28
So fight for your spot to then leave? Should just dropped out during the up and down matches tbh...
This is also wonderful news for EG-TL in proleague, like it couldn't get worse.
leova
Profile Joined April 2011
266 Posts
March 27 2013 15:30 GMT
#29
On March 28 2013 00:22 DtorR wrote:
Is there more money involved playing on international tournaments? Even though playing in GSL Code S is an honour but I feel that to win it is not worth the effort. The competition in the international level is a little easier than in Korea.

oh yeah, foreign tourneys definitely provide more opportunities

the GSL is one massive tournament, that goes on for an extended period of time. If you're not in, like, the top 4 after it finishes or whatever, you won't make a lot of money...

foreign tourneys, however, are MUCH greater in number, with a lower quality of opponents, and more total Prize $ available
mki
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Poland882 Posts
March 27 2013 15:30 GMT
#30
The main issue is foreigners never really had to work for their seeds so they don't appreciate it. How many foreigners have actually made it to GSL the traditional method? Sure you can argue they deserve it because they win up/down matches - but they never had to struggle through traditional GSL qualifiers.

There will never be a true top foreign contender until someone who is willing to do so and work hard for it shows up. Going to Korea just to "practice" isn't enough. It's about understanding the rigorous training schedule all these Koreans are FORCED to take up because it's so hard to qualify for GSL through qualifiers.
Head of New Business at Team Kinguin :: https://www.teamkinguin.com
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
March 27 2013 15:32 GMT
#31
I feel quite disappointed and betrayed by this. Foreigners in Korea is my absolute favourite type of competition in SC2.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
m0s1n0
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany575 Posts
March 27 2013 15:33 GMT
#32
On March 28 2013 00:29 StarStruck wrote:
Ofc he won't because he's not based out of there anymore O; The PL foreigner curse continues. Really need people who want to be there. I look forward to seeing who EG's next pick-ups will be. Send in the Terrans.


He may just travel to Korea for some matches before other tournaments in Asia or things like that. That's why I appointed that he just most likely will not play Proleague anymore. Did not want to announce anything that is not confirmed yet
http://www.fragster.de - editor in chief
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
March 27 2013 15:33 GMT
#33
On March 28 2013 00:14 jakethesnake wrote:
Wow. Bummer. It's really disappointing to me that foreigners seem to give up their Code A/S spots so regularly. I realize it must be incredibly difficult for these players to be in Korea and banking so heavily on one tournament, but it is still incredibly disappointing. Especially for Stephano after going through the Up and Downs go just give it away seems like such a shame.


Come to think of it, I don't think the Koreans are so poor after all, considering the cut throat competition for the Code S / Code A spots. Basically every player in any other nation would wish that there was a city in his / her country, in which there is a regular, prestigious open league like the GSL. In particular with in the frequency of the first years, where it happened like every month. :o
Dibella
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany79 Posts
March 27 2013 15:33 GMT
#34
99% of Foreigners are lazy bastards! Especially Stephano only wants to get the easy cash without working for it.

User was temp banned for this post.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 27 2013 15:34 GMT
#35
On March 28 2013 00:22 DtorR wrote:
Is there more money involved playing on international tournaments? Even though playing in GSL Code S is an honour but I feel that to win it is not worth the effort. The competition in the international level is a little easier than in Korea.


Not only that, but Stephano was having some real problems in Korea. English is his third language and the only way he could communicate with Koreans. That had to be the most frustrating experience in the world and very stressful. Even simply stuff like ordering food or taking a cab must have been a nightmare. That combined with the training and apparent lack of support they were getting before Coach Park joined, I am not surprised he is taking a break of Korea.

I don’t think this has much to do with the difficulty of code S, but living in Korea as a whole was not for him and had a really negative effect on him.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
March 27 2013 15:34 GMT
#36
I think Incontrol said something that hinted at that. But. It kinda makes sense gsl code s is hard as hell. Honestly I think if he stays in the eg house for awhile he will get some good training kinda hoping an online league starts up soon lol.
Juggernaut477
Profile Joined May 2011
United States379 Posts
March 27 2013 15:36 GMT
#37
So can we stop giving charity seeds to undeserving people now?
zimms
Profile Joined November 2009
Austria561 Posts
March 27 2013 15:36 GMT
#38
On March 28 2013 00:32 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I feel quite disappointed and betrayed by this. [...]


Yeah, how does Stephano even dare to not sacrifice his life for your entertainment.
GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
March 27 2013 15:36 GMT
#39
he said on his latest stream that his next tournament was dreamhack so he is going to miss GSL code s 100 %, he has forfeited his spot for sure. Give the spot to Sortof or Scarlett!
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
March 27 2013 15:37 GMT
#40
On March 28 2013 00:32 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I feel quite disappointed and betrayed by this. Foreigners in Korea is my absolute favourite type of competition in SC2.

I enjoy it too...
Watching foreigners getting smacked down by actually good players is always entertaining.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
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