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GenN1us
Profile Joined April 2013
7 Posts
May 02 2013 21:48 GMT
#301
Hello everyone !!


Here is another video of hardcore gamepad aiming on PC.
I Recorded myself for a Live Video,so everyone can see its not fake.
Again im using my program,you will see, nothing compare to it,extreme macro and fast reaction aiming is possible with it.
Xpadder is good for buttons but not for aiming.If you want you can try osu or FPS with xpadder vs mouse player,you will be very limited. My program is for sale very soon and i hope people interested of playing with gamepad on pc will use it!
Specially cress! very nice guy i met on skype wich i will support very soon by playing hardcore starcraft 2 with gamepad around the world. And hope he will continue.
Anyway,enjoy the vid and tell me what you think !

ps: blueslobster i tried Reflex TE on missionred.com with pad and di high score

Cress
Profile Joined September 2011
United States212 Posts
May 02 2013 23:24 GMT
#302
On May 01 2013 15:37 bGr.MetHiX wrote:
im a gm hots toss with 330 toss apm and when i offrace on my mid masters account with zerg i tend to spike up to 470 apm.dunno why is that.blizzard should fix this.

also : i think what this guy has done so far with an xbox controller to be mindblowing. i saw his play and i think it is very impressive but imho reaching gm would be near to impossible.Still wish you the best of luck and continue to be as cool as you are!


You would probably say reaching Masters is mind-blowing and impossible too ~.^. In all seriousness theres a huge mountain to climb for sure
Cress
Profile Joined September 2011
United States212 Posts
May 03 2013 05:24 GMT
#303
On May 01 2013 20:34 DinosaurPoop wrote:
I'm currenty trying to think of a better control setup. I plan to use glovePIE as it's infinitely more configurable than xpadder.
I'm considering using a binary selector system with two selector buttons, quadrupling the available hotkeys, which is infact enough for full grid + hotkeys + a few camera hotkeys. I just don't know which two buttons to use, it is inconvenient pushing both control sticks, and the bumpers are important for quick actions. Using one of the four buttons cuts into the available keys and is not practical to do. I also thought of adding double taps as extra buttons, I still don?t knoe how effective that would be in practice.


The way I map my hotkeys is not very efficient but its what I've gotten used too. I would probably go with what your comfortable with and what seems practical for you personally.

Honestly if your used to the mouse and keyboard I would stick with it. Theres people who have messaged me asking for my help with setting up the game pad as they have extremely bad wrist problems. Those are the people that maybe should give the game pad a try. Its all what your comfortable with I suppose.

Cress
DinosaurPoop
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
687 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 17:46:47
May 03 2013 17:44 GMT
#304
On May 03 2013 06:48 GenN1us wrote:
Hello everyone !!


Here is another video of hardcore gamepad aiming on PC.
I Recorded myself for a Live Video,so everyone can see its not fake.
Again im using my program,you will see, nothing compare to it,extreme macro and fast reaction aiming is possible with it.
Xpadder is good for buttons but not for aiming.If you want you can try osu or FPS with xpadder vs mouse player,you will be very limited. My program is for sale very soon and i hope people interested of playing with gamepad on pc will use it!
Specially cress! very nice guy i met on skype wich i will support very soon by playing hardcore starcraft 2 with gamepad around the world. And hope he will continue.
Anyway,enjoy the vid and tell me what you think !

ps: blueslobster i tried Reflex TE on missionred.com with pad and di high score

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0TQ4_9QVzE&feature=youtu.be

OMG SO G-OSU!
the only difference is, a controller wont make you click faster than a mouse, so in some beatmaps it will be insanely hard.
When cats speak, mice listen.
FliceR
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
Austria72 Posts
May 03 2013 17:56 GMT
#305
or try this out:

http://www.onemorelevel.com/game/cursor_invisible

i normaly play this game when i get a new mouse or i want to test new speed :D post your score

ah btw.: good luck in getting gm
@peterflicer hit me up on Twitter ;)
Cress
Profile Joined September 2011
United States212 Posts
May 03 2013 20:41 GMT
#306
On May 02 2013 13:13 xtpcool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 10:21 Cress wrote:
On May 01 2013 17:58 xtpcool wrote:
can you give me your mouse control image (mouse speed 。。xpadder。。)?
sorry my english is bad
like this(new users cannot use the img bbcode tag. T.T)
http://img2081.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20130501/16/17368704520130501164521051.jpg
http://img2081.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20130501/16/1736870452013050116454606.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2TNhcnw.jpg → Prevent the loss reserve
http://i.imgur.com/2FWrJ1q.jpg →Prevent the loss reserve
thanks very much!!!!!!


My mouse emulation speed is set to 67. I hope this helps.

Let me know if this answered your question


Speed is so slow. I may be used to using the mouse

I think I should need to practise a lot.

Thank you for your answer



Yeah you should be using the Arrow keys by moving the screen. To sorta off set the slow mouse. If you can control the faster mouse by all means go for it. <3

Cress
GenN1us
Profile Joined April 2013
7 Posts
May 03 2013 20:46 GMT
#307
dinosaur: well its possible when you click on the left trigger but yes it is very hard.
Specially a song nico nouga,the macdonald song lol,insane at the begining

Flicer: Yea i will try to do good score funny,invisible aiming lol,lucky the targets are big enough

Thx for suporting for SC2.

For the moment i need to learn the game and all the credits still goes to cress for the moment.I played everything with pad and was looking forward to start SC 2. He is doing great ! i hope i will do at least as good as he did
And i hope he will get much better with my program
But i know the possibilities are huge. Why not beat some koreans hehe
FliceR
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
Austria72 Posts
May 03 2013 20:53 GMT
#308
@ GeN1us : don't worry, they get smaller the higher score you get :D at ~ 600 it's freaking :D
@peterflicer hit me up on Twitter ;)
GenN1us
Profile Joined April 2013
7 Posts
May 03 2013 21:55 GMT
#309
oooo shit lol !

Ok ill try to do high score hehe
Cress
Profile Joined September 2011
United States212 Posts
May 04 2013 01:46 GMT
#310
On March 28 2013 09:25 JKM wrote:
Well that is really impressive, but I'll join the nay-sayers about reaching GM (note: cheesing to GM doesn't count, since being awesome with the controller wont really affect that too much ).

BUT GL in your efforts towards GM!


Nah we're talking about super solid GM level here no cannon rushs or six pool's XD. Maybe a 10pool or a 4 gate in mirror match ups once in awhile but that's all I really do that could be cheesey
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
May 04 2013 01:50 GMT
#311
On March 30 2013 17:21 Cress wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 00:31 o29 wrote:
On March 29 2013 20:29 kafkaesque wrote:
You guys suck sometimes.

Here we have this guy who is extremely successful in a very unconventional way of playing and half of you are being Debbie Downers about it.

Some blame Protons being too easy, others blaming SC2 to be too easy, some say all his opponents suck or that it's impossible for him to reach GM...

How about just recognising that he's done something really impressive and rooting for him to reach his goals?


Agreed. But at least Cress has the right attitude of using their pessimism as motivation.

I think it's definitely possible, and it's just a matter of how much time and effort he's willing to put into it. And it will take a loooot of time and effort, rest assured, but it's an obtainable goal.


Well in a way this is a goal I've been working towards since star craft 2 was released. I've seen massive spikes in my skill over time and I've stopped ruleing myself out. I play star craft 2 with the game pad regardless if I'm streaming or not. It's just something that I'm sharing with you guys.

The kind comments some of you have left for me really means a lot. Makes me wanna keep streaming.

There's always gonna be a few people that are gonna hate I suppose

I got top 8 masters, I'm sure they were all like easy masters players though.
Like bronze players that made it into masters or something. Low points etc.

Anyway its less about ranking more just about improving. Everyday I come closer to reaching god mode with the game pad XD

[image loading]



Nappa: Vegeta.... What does the scouter say about Cress's Gangnam style power level?!

Vegeta: Its over 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah you knew that was coming =D


lol I was browsing this thread waiting to see who would be the first person to post that .gif.

Well played sir!
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
Cress
Profile Joined September 2011
United States212 Posts
May 04 2013 10:27 GMT
#312
On April 20 2013 07:20 dreamsmasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 04:32 SupLilSon wrote:
On April 18 2013 04:28 Whitewing wrote:
On April 18 2013 04:23 SupLilSon wrote:
On April 18 2013 04:19 blade55555 wrote:
On April 18 2013 04:16 SupLilSon wrote:
On April 18 2013 01:37 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
On April 18 2013 01:29 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
On April 18 2013 01:21 SupLilSon wrote:
On April 17 2013 23:04 JazVM wrote:
[quote]

lol how ignorant can one be

SC2 players tend to grossly exaggerate how difficult the game is.



in comparison to what? your post is bad and you should feel bad.

considering the fact that there are full time gamers who are no where nere a skill cap Id say sc2 is a pretty hard game to master.

Especially compared to an FPS or something that takes very little time to get to a high skill level.

SCII places a much higher demand your on nervous system and requires you to be almost constantly focused.


Well this is a pretty good example of what I was talking about. SC2 players talking about the nervous system and focus as if it's been experimentally proven. I see people like you all the time, desperately trying to place SC2 on a pedestal above all over video games. Wake up bros, SC2 =/= Broodwar. The fact that D rank ICCUP players are solid Masters SC2 players with almost no acclimation should tell you something about the difficulty of SC2. Keep calling my post bad though NEEDZMOAR, you had a pretty bad post yourself.


Nobody is saying sc2 is harder then bw, but to say the game is easy like your post implies is also just as false. Masters is fine doesn't mean you are good though.

Why you trying to start a sc2 vs bw fight? like really?


Im not trying to start a SC2 vs BW fight. Before I even mentioned any game outside of SC2 someone is already claiming SC2 to be superior to FPS games because it, "places a much higher demand on your nervous system and requires you to be almost constantly focused." I'm sorry but that is laughable and I felt a need to respond. Like I said, some SC2 players feel the need to exaggerate how difficult the game is.


And some feel the need to make SC2 seem ridiculously easy, what's your point? Everyone has their own opinions. If you're going to demand the other person back up his opinion with experimental evidence, you'd better provide your own for your counter opinion.

Yea I guess the guy claiming SC2 to be harder than FPS games because it's more taxing on the nervous system isn't direct proof of my statement. Just ignore that because it'd go against your opinion.

In any case, I never even said SC2 was easy. I said SC2 players tend to exaggerate how difficult the game is. Reading comprehension at an all time low.


is there even a competitive shooter that is still played?

people dont really play CS anymore (too old)
CS:GO isn't terribly popular (dont know the competitive merits)
call of duty: lol
what else is there again?

face it competitive shooters died with deathmatch fps games and counter strike 1.6.



Actually I think there's still an audience for fps tournaments. They seem to be broad casted on TV in the US more then Sc2 or lol. Like G4 tv for example shows alot of halo stuff. Hard to argue which has a bigger fan base. Its safe to say theres a lot of Fps fans out there though.
Cress
Profile Joined September 2011
United States212 Posts
May 05 2013 01:05 GMT
#313
On May 02 2013 21:46 blueslobster wrote:
Hi Cress. Which level can you reach on Reflex TE on missionred.com?


Well the whole beat map and reflex games are not really my thing XD as they focus just on the mouse. I still need to do the marine split challenge at some point though
Slipspace
Profile Joined May 2010
United States381 Posts
May 05 2013 01:11 GMT
#314
On May 03 2013 14:24 Cress wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 20:34 DinosaurPoop wrote:
I'm currenty trying to think of a better control setup. I plan to use glovePIE as it's infinitely more configurable than xpadder.
I'm considering using a binary selector system with two selector buttons, quadrupling the available hotkeys, which is infact enough for full grid + hotkeys + a few camera hotkeys. I just don't know which two buttons to use, it is inconvenient pushing both control sticks, and the bumpers are important for quick actions. Using one of the four buttons cuts into the available keys and is not practical to do. I also thought of adding double taps as extra buttons, I still don?t knoe how effective that would be in practice.


The way I map my hotkeys is not very efficient but its what I've gotten used too. I would probably go with what your comfortable with and what seems practical for you personally.

Honestly if your used to the mouse and keyboard I would stick with it. Theres people who have messaged me asking for my help with setting up the game pad as they have extremely bad wrist problems. Those are the people that maybe should give the game pad a try. Its all what your comfortable with I suppose.

Cress


now do it again except where the next target is more than 4 inches from the last one
Cress
Profile Joined September 2011
United States212 Posts
May 05 2013 10:30 GMT
#315
On May 04 2013 10:50 Silentness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 17:21 Cress wrote:
On March 30 2013 00:31 o29 wrote:
On March 29 2013 20:29 kafkaesque wrote:
You guys suck sometimes.

Here we have this guy who is extremely successful in a very unconventional way of playing and half of you are being Debbie Downers about it.

Some blame Protons being too easy, others blaming SC2 to be too easy, some say all his opponents suck or that it's impossible for him to reach GM...

How about just recognising that he's done something really impressive and rooting for him to reach his goals?


Agreed. But at least Cress has the right attitude of using their pessimism as motivation.

I think it's definitely possible, and it's just a matter of how much time and effort he's willing to put into it. And it will take a loooot of time and effort, rest assured, but it's an obtainable goal.


Well in a way this is a goal I've been working towards since star craft 2 was released. I've seen massive spikes in my skill over time and I've stopped ruleing myself out. I play star craft 2 with the game pad regardless if I'm streaming or not. It's just something that I'm sharing with you guys.

The kind comments some of you have left for me really means a lot. Makes me wanna keep streaming.

There's always gonna be a few people that are gonna hate I suppose

I got top 8 masters, I'm sure they were all like easy masters players though.
Like bronze players that made it into masters or something. Low points etc.

Anyway its less about ranking more just about improving. Everyday I come closer to reaching god mode with the game pad XD

[image loading]



Nappa: Vegeta.... What does the scouter say about Cress's Gangnam style power level?!

Vegeta: Its over 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah you knew that was coming =D


lol I was browsing this thread waiting to see who would be the first person to post that .gif.

Well played sir!


A lot of people have sent it to me actually Its one of the single greatest GIF's for Star Craft 2 XD. I think the game thats being played in the GIF is Idra vs Minigun maybe?
DinosaurPoop
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
687 Posts
May 05 2013 14:12 GMT
#316
It's Minigun vs kOre:
When cats speak, mice listen.
Cress
Profile Joined September 2011
United States212 Posts
May 06 2013 01:50 GMT
#317
On May 05 2013 10:11 Slipspace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 14:24 Cress wrote:
On May 01 2013 20:34 DinosaurPoop wrote:
I'm currenty trying to think of a better control setup. I plan to use glovePIE as it's infinitely more configurable than xpadder.
I'm considering using a binary selector system with two selector buttons, quadrupling the available hotkeys, which is infact enough for full grid + hotkeys + a few camera hotkeys. I just don't know which two buttons to use, it is inconvenient pushing both control sticks, and the bumpers are important for quick actions. Using one of the four buttons cuts into the available keys and is not practical to do. I also thought of adding double taps as extra buttons, I still don?t knoe how effective that would be in practice.


The way I map my hotkeys is not very efficient but its what I've gotten used too. I would probably go with what your comfortable with and what seems practical for you personally.

Honestly if your used to the mouse and keyboard I would stick with it. Theres people who have messaged me asking for my help with setting up the game pad as they have extremely bad wrist problems. Those are the people that maybe should give the game pad a try. Its all what your comfortable with I suppose.

Cress


now do it again except where the next target is more than 4 inches from the last one


Do what again exactly? You talking about a Beat map? ^_^
iCheeseUcry
Profile Joined February 2012
United States18 Posts
May 06 2013 10:43 GMT
#318
Whoa, that is some seriously xbox skills.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19398 Posts
May 06 2013 10:59 GMT
#319
On May 06 2013 19:43 iCheeseUcry wrote:
Whoa, that is some seriously xbox skills.

Cress also talks a lot about strategy while he streams and the purpose behind his timings. He's very intelligent.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
DinosaurPoop
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
687 Posts
May 06 2013 13:16 GMT
#320
On May 06 2013 19:43 iCheeseUcry wrote:
Whoa, that is some seriously xbox skills.

Not really, if you try it yourself you'll see that zerg mechanics are relatively easy with it with practice.
When cats speak, mice listen.
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