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On June 07 2013 12:46 Don.681 wrote:
Wow, I just discovered this and tried your controller layout. I think you struck gold here.
Blizzard could totally do a console version of the game using your layout. All they have to do is change the UI so that there is a graphical representation of button changes and functions whenever you press the left stick.
By the way, that Blizzard email, how did it go?
Reason I'm asking is that I have a lot of real world friends that are primarily PS3 players and don't play the PC very much. It would be great if they started playing SC2 as well.
Well Blizzard messaged my twitch and reddit account asking for the key bindings on my controller. They gave me an email to contact them with. We exchanged a few general emails about my experiences with using the game pad. I sent them a detailed explanation of my key bindings.
I have not talked to them since then.
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Thanks for updating the thread D:
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On May 09 2013 18:33 Szei wrote:Good luck Cress! Hope to see you make GM =) I really don't understand this sentiment people seem to have regarding Protoss. Maybe in SC1, but in SC2 Protoss is anything but an "A-move" race. Especially in HotS. I feel like Zerg would be much easier to play with a 360 controller. Not because Zerg is an easier race, but because engaging comes down more to a-moving than Protoss and Terran. Zerg is still difficult, don't misunderstand me, but it's more about setting up flanks. Good positioning, that kind of thing. I feel like with a controller, moving your units into position isn't as much of a difficulty leap from mouse and keyboard to a controller than spell casting is (blink, ff, storm, time warp, etc). Note: I'm not a defensive Protoss/Terran player trying to put down Zerg. I play random at a mid master level so I do have respect for all the races.
Did you ever play SCBW? I doubt it.
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On June 08 2013 18:38 TaShadan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 18:33 Szei wrote:Good luck Cress! Hope to see you make GM =) On May 07 2013 08:43 Chrono000 wrote:
lol u can only do this with protoss I really don't understand this sentiment people seem to have regarding Protoss. Maybe in SC1, but in SC2 Protoss is anything but an "A-move" race. Especially in HotS. I feel like Zerg would be much easier to play with a 360 controller. Not because Zerg is an easier race, but because engaging comes down more to a-moving than Protoss and Terran. Zerg is still difficult, don't misunderstand me, but it's more about setting up flanks. Good positioning, that kind of thing. I feel like with a controller, moving your units into position isn't as much of a difficulty leap from mouse and keyboard to a controller than spell casting is (blink, ff, storm, time warp, etc). Note: I'm not a defensive Protoss/Terran player trying to put down Zerg. I play random at a mid master level so I do have respect for all the races. Did you ever play SCBW? I doubt it.
Cress played SCBW =D.
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On June 09 2013 07:58 Cress wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 18:38 TaShadan wrote:On May 09 2013 18:33 Szei wrote:Good luck Cress! Hope to see you make GM =) On May 07 2013 08:43 Chrono000 wrote:
lol u can only do this with protoss I really don't understand this sentiment people seem to have regarding Protoss. Maybe in SC1, but in SC2 Protoss is anything but an "A-move" race. Especially in HotS. I feel like Zerg would be much easier to play with a 360 controller. Not because Zerg is an easier race, but because engaging comes down more to a-moving than Protoss and Terran. Zerg is still difficult, don't misunderstand me, but it's more about setting up flanks. Good positioning, that kind of thing. I feel like with a controller, moving your units into position isn't as much of a difficulty leap from mouse and keyboard to a controller than spell casting is (blink, ff, storm, time warp, etc). Note: I'm not a defensive Protoss/Terran player trying to put down Zerg. I play random at a mid master level so I do have respect for all the races. Did you ever play SCBW? I doubt it. Cress played SCBW =D.
Why do you talk about yourself at the 3rd person ? I thought it was someone else lol
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On June 11 2013 00:40 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 07:58 Cress wrote:On June 08 2013 18:38 TaShadan wrote:On May 09 2013 18:33 Szei wrote:Good luck Cress! Hope to see you make GM =) On May 07 2013 08:43 Chrono000 wrote:
lol u can only do this with protoss I really don't understand this sentiment people seem to have regarding Protoss. Maybe in SC1, but in SC2 Protoss is anything but an "A-move" race. Especially in HotS. I feel like Zerg would be much easier to play with a 360 controller. Not because Zerg is an easier race, but because engaging comes down more to a-moving than Protoss and Terran. Zerg is still difficult, don't misunderstand me, but it's more about setting up flanks. Good positioning, that kind of thing. I feel like with a controller, moving your units into position isn't as much of a difficulty leap from mouse and keyboard to a controller than spell casting is (blink, ff, storm, time warp, etc). Note: I'm not a defensive Protoss/Terran player trying to put down Zerg. I play random at a mid master level so I do have respect for all the races. Did you ever play SCBW? I doubt it. Cress played SCBW =D. Why do you talk about yourself at the 3rd person ? I thought it was someone else lol
He does that a lot. No idea why. A little bit obnoxious to be honest. That a side, I support your journey! It is already quite impressive.
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On June 08 2013 18:38 TaShadan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 18:33 Szei wrote:Good luck Cress! Hope to see you make GM =) On May 07 2013 08:43 Chrono000 wrote:
lol u can only do this with protoss I really don't understand this sentiment people seem to have regarding Protoss. Maybe in SC1, but in SC2 Protoss is anything but an "A-move" race. Especially in HotS. I feel like Zerg would be much easier to play with a 360 controller. Not because Zerg is an easier race, but because engaging comes down more to a-moving than Protoss and Terran. Zerg is still difficult, don't misunderstand me, but it's more about setting up flanks. Good positioning, that kind of thing. I feel like with a controller, moving your units into position isn't as much of a difficulty leap from mouse and keyboard to a controller than spell casting is (blink, ff, storm, time warp, etc). Note: I'm not a defensive Protoss/Terran player trying to put down Zerg. I play random at a mid master level so I do have respect for all the races. Did you ever play SCBW? I doubt it.
The "a-move race" didn't really exist in BW.
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On June 11 2013 02:42 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 18:38 TaShadan wrote:On May 09 2013 18:33 Szei wrote:Good luck Cress! Hope to see you make GM =) On May 07 2013 08:43 Chrono000 wrote:
lol u can only do this with protoss I really don't understand this sentiment people seem to have regarding Protoss. Maybe in SC1, but in SC2 Protoss is anything but an "A-move" race. Especially in HotS. I feel like Zerg would be much easier to play with a 360 controller. Not because Zerg is an easier race, but because engaging comes down more to a-moving than Protoss and Terran. Zerg is still difficult, don't misunderstand me, but it's more about setting up flanks. Good positioning, that kind of thing. I feel like with a controller, moving your units into position isn't as much of a difficulty leap from mouse and keyboard to a controller than spell casting is (blink, ff, storm, time warp, etc). Note: I'm not a defensive Protoss/Terran player trying to put down Zerg. I play random at a mid master level so I do have respect for all the races. Did you ever play SCBW? I doubt it. The "a-move race" didn't really exist in BW.
A lot of players considered Protoss the "a-move race", although the term wasn't "a-move race" it was "1a2a3a", because Protoss could literally fit their entire army on 3 hotkeys (this was not possible with either Terran or Zerg) and because of the relative strength of Protoss units. People said "well Protoss can just 1a2a3a to victory". Basically it was a stupid complaint perpetuated by the lower-level D-rank iccup crowd.
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On June 11 2013 00:56 JacobShock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 00:40 FFW_Rude wrote:On June 09 2013 07:58 Cress wrote:On June 08 2013 18:38 TaShadan wrote:On May 09 2013 18:33 Szei wrote:Good luck Cress! Hope to see you make GM =) On May 07 2013 08:43 Chrono000 wrote:
lol u can only do this with protoss I really don't understand this sentiment people seem to have regarding Protoss. Maybe in SC1, but in SC2 Protoss is anything but an "A-move" race. Especially in HotS. I feel like Zerg would be much easier to play with a 360 controller. Not because Zerg is an easier race, but because engaging comes down more to a-moving than Protoss and Terran. Zerg is still difficult, don't misunderstand me, but it's more about setting up flanks. Good positioning, that kind of thing. I feel like with a controller, moving your units into position isn't as much of a difficulty leap from mouse and keyboard to a controller than spell casting is (blink, ff, storm, time warp, etc). Note: I'm not a defensive Protoss/Terran player trying to put down Zerg. I play random at a mid master level so I do have respect for all the races. Did you ever play SCBW? I doubt it. Cress played SCBW =D. Why do you talk about yourself at the 3rd person ? I thought it was someone else lol He does that a lot. No idea why. A little bit obnoxious to be honest. That a side, I support your journey! It is already quite impressive.
Yeah sorry about that. I was not sure if he was talking about me or some other guy. So I figured I would have both covered If I talked about myself in the first person.
To tell you the truth I've been considering giving up on streaming. I'm not terribly good at it or entertaining. So I dunno, maybe its time I consider slipping back into the shadows.
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On June 11 2013 02:42 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 18:38 TaShadan wrote:On May 09 2013 18:33 Szei wrote:Good luck Cress! Hope to see you make GM =) On May 07 2013 08:43 Chrono000 wrote:
lol u can only do this with protoss I really don't understand this sentiment people seem to have regarding Protoss. Maybe in SC1, but in SC2 Protoss is anything but an "A-move" race. Especially in HotS. I feel like Zerg would be much easier to play with a 360 controller. Not because Zerg is an easier race, but because engaging comes down more to a-moving than Protoss and Terran. Zerg is still difficult, don't misunderstand me, but it's more about setting up flanks. Good positioning, that kind of thing. I feel like with a controller, moving your units into position isn't as much of a difficulty leap from mouse and keyboard to a controller than spell casting is (blink, ff, storm, time warp, etc). Note: I'm not a defensive Protoss/Terran player trying to put down Zerg. I play random at a mid master level so I do have respect for all the races. Did you ever play SCBW? I doubt it. The "a-move race" didn't really exist in BW.
I think people just really want to feel like their race is the hardest and everyone elses is easy mode at the deepest level.
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I really hope you end up having a long term dialogue with blizzard about this - I'd try to reach them to get their feedback. I really think RTS on consoles is something thats been difficult in the past, but sort of needs to happen. RTS is my favorite genre of game and sometimes I really like the idea of playing it on a couch. I think if more people like you can prove these concepts blizzard may not be so quick to write off console RTS. Particularly if they tweak the GUI to make it easier to see the control scheme and utilize next gen features of the new consoles' controllers (especially the ps4), theres a lot of ways it can work. Couple that with all the streaming and social aspects of the next gen consoles (that doesnt even include the rumored steam-box).....RTS (as well as MOBA) esports could very well migrate to consoles. Please do not give up in this area, stream or not. Masters is high enough to convince me. Continue to tweak it and release guides or video.
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Cress is aweomse!! What the heck!!! He plays with a controller!!!??? And he beats Masters players!!!!!
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Cress, my dear, my sweet, my love.
You're the first person I thought about when i read the steam controller announcement.
Any comments on that?? OuO
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what happened with this guy? i tried to open his stream today and it says it got blocked by some reason =/
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For a while all the top viewed videos on twitch of SC2 would be Cress'... he was probably banned for using a bot to get video views.
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On September 28 2013 08:10 Cheren wrote:
For a while all the top viewed videos on twitch of SC2 would be Cress'... he was probably banned for using a bot to get video views.
The novelty of being an average player using a self-imposed inferior input method must have worn off.
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that is an unfortunate way to go down.
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That actually really sucks.
I enjoyed his streaming from time to time.
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On June 08 2013 18:38 TaShadan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 18:33 Szei wrote:Good luck Cress! Hope to see you make GM =) On May 07 2013 08:43 Chrono000 wrote:
lol u can only do this with protoss I really don't understand this sentiment people seem to have regarding Protoss. Maybe in SC1, but in SC2 Protoss is anything but an "A-move" race. Especially in HotS. I feel like Zerg would be much easier to play with a 360 controller. Not because Zerg is an easier race, but because engaging comes down more to a-moving than Protoss and Terran. Zerg is still difficult, don't misunderstand me, but it's more about setting up flanks. Good positioning, that kind of thing. I feel like with a controller, moving your units into position isn't as much of a difficulty leap from mouse and keyboard to a controller than spell casting is (blink, ff, storm, time warp, etc). Note: I'm not a defensive Protoss/Terran player trying to put down Zerg. I play random at a mid master level so I do have respect for all the races. Did you ever play SCBW? I doubt it.
I did play BW, and I'm also not sure how that is relevant in the slightest. We are talking about SC2. Not SCBW... that's the whole point -_-
On September 28 2013 09:46 Kashll wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 08:10 Cheren wrote:
For a while all the top viewed videos on twitch of SC2 would be Cress'... he was probably banned for using a bot to get video views. The novelty of being an average player using a self-imposed inferior input method must have worn off.
Actually, technically he was a great deal above average going by the Blizzard ranking system (as a Master player you're supposedly in the top 2% or so which is well above 50th percentile...). As for his input method, that was a novelty, you're right. It wore off and that's why he didn't have that many viewers consistently. However, the reason people stuck with him was probably for the builds (some would say "troll builds") he did and still beat Master players with them.
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Never saw his stream. I'm interested to see how he plays though, but now I don't know if he'll ever stream again.
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