Balance Update #15 - February 22, 2013 - Page 5

On February 23 2013 12:30 Sated wrote:

Then they should play BW.

Mech = Mechanical.

Bio = Biological.

On February 23 2013 10:12 Dvriel wrote:
150/150 Blizzard,really??? What about TvP mech???
Almost two weeks to launch and you seem to do abslutly nothing. Cant wait to see the first GSL after the launch. I bet we wont see any new strategies and there will be no Hellbats and Widowmines. So sad.

On February 23 2013 12:02 -Kyo- wrote:



My patience is slowly wearing out @_@;; They're ignoring such blatant issues with the game, even when it's being talked about on talk shows with pro players. What else do they want from us? We lay the issues out very clearly for them and they still don't even acknowledge they exist :/

This is an okay patch, but I still feel like it's still just a soft cap problem for the battle hellion. It will still be as strong as it was before... which doesn't really fix the problem >.>

On February 23 2013 12:27 Sated wrote:

Protoss usually have to mix both Mechanical and Biological units together to have a viable composition, so distinguishing between Biological and Mechanical is redundant. The best you can do is distinguish between Robo/Twilight/Stargate, but you need a mix of at least two of those to possess a viable late-game composition. Zerg don't have Mechanical units, so saying that a Zerg player is going Bio is also redundant.

In both cases, upgrades aren't split down Biological/Mechanical lines, adding to the redundancy.

Try again with your silly response, child.

On February 23 2013 12:36 nkr wrote:
So many people who want race X to be OP for a while because race Y has recently been OP in WoL.

What about balance?

On February 23 2013 12:36 Zelniq wrote:

I'm sure they don't ignore it, even though they don't say anything. I think they are especially hesitant to nerf protoss's air or buff other race's antiair, as the only thing protosses are getting in HotS are new air units, so I can understand that. And given that it's more a lategame problem, it's not as easy to diagnose as something that needs to be fixed as very early game things. They're doing their common 'lets wait and see if players can come up with their own solutions.'

Up until recently I felt like most zergs did, that the right skytoss army is nearly unbeatable or completely unreasonable to beat, but I've recently discovered that the most talked about lategame 'unbeatable' composition, tempests/HTs, does maybe have a reasonable way for zergs to deal with it. And that's simply that a pure, or nearly pure hydralisk army is reasonably effective if and only if you engage in such a way to make a gigantic arc, while also never letting them clump up to let too many get hit by storm.

The problem is that tempests are just so incredibly awful vs hydras that storm is really the only way to beat the hydras, and if you are completely surrounded by hydras who are in an arc (standing in a line, shoulder to shoulder), storm isn't actually that effective at dealing with them. Then you can add in some storm dodging with hydra's faster move speed, and it's not problematic to not be attacking and only running as again the tempests are just so bad vs hydras.

Of course this only works if they're depending on HTs to support their tempests, rather than colossus which would be very problematic for a hydra army obviously. vipers are the obvious way to react to colossus, but with mass tempests shooting down vipers that's a pretty big problem for them as vipers dont fair very well. the protoss must have vision of course, but that's often not an issue as most protosses keep an oracle or 2 just for that sick reveal ability that goes so well with tempests.