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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
February 21 2013 22:16 GMT
#101
Wow, that's pretty big. I hope this doesn't mean we lose IPL. I've been hoping to save up to attend one someday.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
February 21 2013 22:18 GMT
#102
On February 22 2013 07:15 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 07:11 AnomalySC2 wrote:
On February 22 2013 07:06 Soda-88 wrote:
On February 22 2013 05:22 NoGasfOu wrote:
IPL is ending. MLG's revenue is not enough to pay interest. GOM is losing foreign subscribers day by day.

Looks like the beginning of the end for anything that's not Kespa. BW 2.0 incoming.

What lol


That would be awesome imo. Blizz should rerelease BW as a free to play browser game with a fully functioning ladder system and improved netcode/latency. That would be the best for esports imo. Basically just give it the Quake Live treatment.

yeah its done wonders for Quake.....


It injected a bit of life into the game. But I think BW is a much higher level compared to Quake.....It's still a very popular game in SK, much more so than SC2.
Crowley.
Profile Joined December 2012
14 Posts
February 21 2013 22:18 GMT
#103
On February 22 2013 04:57 Zealously wrote:
I just hope things work out for Kevin and Robin - I've really grown to like those two. And, of course, I hope IPL doesn't drop in quality either. It's reguarly been one of the best tournaments of the year since IPL3, and it'd be a damn shame if that changed.


Why? Robin is, objectively, probably the worst caster to hit the scene. People with speech impediments or exceptionally poor English (SNM, Robin, Axslav) should not be hired into a profession where the service you are providing is your voice.

A bit more on topic, I am speculating that MLG probably wants to buy out IPL so that it can have all of the major NA assets on lockdown. Although to be fair, you aren't buying much more than the brand name, because they don't seem to have many physical assets or talent assets. It would be good for the scene in the sense that it would decrease saturation (as instead of three major NA broadcasts competing, it would decrease to only two), but then there is the risk of MLG becoming "too big."
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 22:19:41
February 21 2013 22:18 GMT
#104
Does anyone know what the purpose of IPL actually was for IGN?
I'm asking because they have tournaments for allot of games and they don't really seem to focus on actual profit from any of them. Was it for profit or just as marketing to attract more people to their online gaming division at IGN?
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
February 21 2013 22:20 GMT
#105
Pretty much all of the people working at IPL I've been lucky enough to talk to over the last year or so have been amazing.

I sincerely hope they all get to stay on the ship as it's acquired by someone else, they're part of, hell, they're the reason IPL is what it is.

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Footler
Profile Joined January 2010
United States560 Posts
February 21 2013 22:24 GMT
#106
The optimist in me says this isn't all bad. The scene is just being 'streamlined' perhaps. Fewer events but more emphasis on the ones that weather the storm leading to more epic and successful events both in terms of quality and profit.

On the other hand.... Noooooo!!!!! IPL
I am The-Sink! Parting bandwagoner before it became a soul train.
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3830 Posts
February 21 2013 22:29 GMT
#107
Nobody buy, everybody sponsor.
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Sway.746
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States95 Posts
February 21 2013 22:41 GMT
#108
How much in profit is IPL making yearly right now? They'll probably sell for 2-3 times that price.

+ Show Spoiler +
Yes I know they're losing money, and the idea of someone buying a company that bleeds money and doesn't have a business model is hilarious.
SynapseSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States86 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 22:42:21
February 21 2013 22:42 GMT
#109
On February 22 2013 07:41 Sway.746 wrote:


Yes I know they're losing money,


No you don't. You have absolutely no idea about their financials.
SunDevil
Profile Joined March 2010
United States353 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 22:42:59
February 21 2013 22:42 GMT
#110
I am surprised by the number of economists in the community with in-depth insight of the IPL's revenue flow and profit margins. Also the number of strategic business people who understand completely how IPL fit into IGN's plans.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 22:44:44
February 21 2013 22:42 GMT
#111
IPL is done like dinner.
The only reason they don't close it down "yesterday" is due to agreements and contracts they've already signed.
This "sale" is just a way to slither out of the agreements they are already in.

The ticket prices are too low and the events are too long to make money.

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
February 21 2013 22:49 GMT
#112
Loved the IPL. The big lesson here is that businesses need to be profitable. You can't run on charity fumes forever.
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BuddhaMonk
Profile Joined August 2010
781 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 22:52:57
February 21 2013 22:49 GMT
#113
To be honest, a little consolidation would be good for the industry on the whole.

I just hope that whoever buys IPL has esports interest at heart and is not looking at it from a "let's use this primarily as a marketing tool for games" standpoint, which was the road IPL seemed to be going down.
SynapseSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States86 Posts
February 21 2013 22:53 GMT
#114
On February 22 2013 07:49 Chill wrote:
Loved the IPL. The big lesson here is that businesses need to be profitable. You can't run on charity fumes forever.


David Ting has said in multiple interviews that IPL is profitable... so unless you think he's entirely bullshitting?
iViNtaGe
Profile Joined July 2012
United States254 Posts
February 21 2013 22:56 GMT
#115
That sucks soo bad =(

Hopefully they cut kibblez.

I really like IPL though. I have lost faith in MLG.
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
February 21 2013 22:56 GMT
#116
On February 22 2013 05:21 ssg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 05:17 T.O.P. wrote:
I can't see why anyone would buy IPL. It doesn't make sense for a competitor to buy it at all. Why waste money on acquiring IPL when money off better spent investing in your product. Secondly, why would a investor invest into a product that is not profitable.

MLG could always buy it and squash it.

Red Bull could buy it and kind of merge IPL with Battlegrounds.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 23:02:27
February 21 2013 22:59 GMT
#117
On February 22 2013 07:53 SynapseSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 07:49 Chill wrote:
Loved the IPL. The big lesson here is that businesses need to be profitable. You can't run on charity fumes forever.


David Ting has said in multiple interviews that IPL is profitable... so unless you think he's entirely bullshitting?

source?

EDIT: actually you are just flat out wrong. Don't even bother finding a source.
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/jan/07/ipl-spent-over-1-million-years-event-and-lost-money-they-expect-it-make-money-its-fifth-year/

IGN Pro League's founder, David Ting, recently stated that with this past year's IPL events the company had lost money
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
February 21 2013 23:00 GMT
#118
On February 22 2013 07:56 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 05:21 ssg wrote:
On February 22 2013 05:17 T.O.P. wrote:
I can't see why anyone would buy IPL. It doesn't make sense for a competitor to buy it at all. Why waste money on acquiring IPL when money off better spent investing in your product. Secondly, why would a investor invest into a product that is not profitable.

MLG could always buy it and squash it.

Red Bull could buy it and kind of merge IPL with Battlegrounds.

The Rob Simpson Proleague.
SynapseSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States86 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 23:07:56
February 21 2013 23:05 GMT
#119
On February 22 2013 07:59 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 07:53 SynapseSC wrote:
On February 22 2013 07:49 Chill wrote:
Loved the IPL. The big lesson here is that businesses need to be profitable. You can't run on charity fumes forever.


David Ting has said in multiple interviews that IPL is profitable... so unless you think he's entirely bullshitting?

source?

EDIT: actually you are just flat out wrong. Don't even bother finding a source.
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/jan/07/ipl-spent-over-1-million-years-event-and-lost-money-they-expect-it-make-money-its-fifth-year/

Show nested quote +
IGN Pro League's founder, David Ting, recently stated that with this past year's IPL events the company had lost money


On the event. As in IPL5. Not overall. IPL4 was break even/profitable as an event.
Crowley.
Profile Joined December 2012
14 Posts
February 21 2013 23:05 GMT
#120
On February 22 2013 07:42 SunDevil wrote:
I am surprised by the number of economists in the community with in-depth insight of the IPL's revenue flow and profit margins. Also the number of strategic business people who understand completely how IPL fit into IGN's plans.


You're quite impressive yourself, thank you for teaching us all that "revenue flow" is a term.
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