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NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
February 21 2013 21:36 GMT
#81
Well even if SC2 scene is decreasing, it is a very good thing. As it stands now, it is bloated and spread thin not gathering viewership because of oversaturation. However, SC2 dying is pretty much a joke. There arent anything similar in the RTS market apart from Lol/Dota, which arent purely RTS either. SC2 will live on with re-focus on the tournaments that actually are the best, and it is only for the better.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
February 21 2013 21:37 GMT
#82
On February 22 2013 06:36 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 06:24 LuckyFool wrote:
Azubu where are you

Dumping VC money all over the place. Don't confuse investor money with a sustainable business.

Fine, be that way Kennigit. I for one welcome our new Azubu overlords.
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
February 21 2013 21:39 GMT
#83
I find it very surprisingly how well informed half of the TL seems to be about buisness numbers of various organisations.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 21:44:30
February 21 2013 21:44 GMT
#84
On February 22 2013 06:11 NoGasfOu wrote:
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On February 22 2013 05:46 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On February 22 2013 05:22 NoGasfOu wrote:
IPL is ending. MLG's revenue is not enough to pay interest. GOM is losing foreign subscribers day by day.

Looks like the beginning of the end for anything that's not Kespa. BW 2.0 incoming.

and your source is? oh wait..... you don't have one because this is a load of bs.
people like you make me laugh.

It's an observation. No need for facts. MLG was losing a ton of money and had to raise additional millions from investors. They had a thread about this in 2012. They made a risky investment by reaching some kind of deal with Kespa to get exclusive players' rights hoping to generate big bucks. Don't think that's going anywhere considering the amount of money they're spending on players' airplane tickets and hotel for the next event. You don't have to be very smart to know that GOM is losing foreign subscribers compare to the early days of 2010 and early 2011. They're moving to a new place and doing "MORE ESPORTS". I don't think they can survive just on SC2 alone. Sometimes you have to jump ship to survive.

So no facts, only your uninformed opinion.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
February 21 2013 21:46 GMT
#85
So, is IPL6 still gonna happen ?
Terran & Potato Salad.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
February 21 2013 21:48 GMT
#86
On February 22 2013 06:39 TeeTS wrote:
I find it very surprisingly how well informed half of the TL seems to be about buisness numbers of various organisations.

And the balance in HotS!
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
February 21 2013 21:49 GMT
#87
On February 22 2013 06:48 ZAiNs wrote:
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On February 22 2013 06:39 TeeTS wrote:
I find it very surprisingly how well informed half of the TL seems to be about buisness numbers of various organisations.

And the balance in HotS!


And nada's body.
Terran & Potato Salad.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
February 21 2013 21:54 GMT
#88
I see no need for anyone to buy it the IPL. Who wants to see HUGE SC2 tournaments every weekend, like it was last year?! It was borderline boring and there was no time/room for hype to come up. With a whole tournament gone the year becomes more open again. Hardcore fans can still watch streams/online cups/vods all the time and the "normal" fans will start marking dates in the calendar again. There are still 2 big american organisations (MLG + NASL), 2 big european organisations (ESL + Dreamhack) and the 2 korean ones (GSL/GSTL + Proleague). That`s more than enough for the actual size of the sc2 scene.
keep it deep! @zulison
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
February 21 2013 21:55 GMT
#89
Maybe it'll be good if it ends up being a Kespa dominated scene. At least we'll have stability.
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
February 21 2013 21:55 GMT
#90
On February 22 2013 06:49 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
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On February 22 2013 06:48 ZAiNs wrote:
On February 22 2013 06:39 TeeTS wrote:
I find it very surprisingly how well informed half of the TL seems to be about buisness numbers of various organisations.

And the balance in HotS!


And nada's body.



especially nada's body... everytime I watch bw part of TL the thread about nadas body is among the top viewed pretty soon I feel like I have no choice but to actually check it out^^
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 21:56:25
February 21 2013 21:56 GMT
#91
On February 22 2013 06:13 Dodgin wrote:
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On February 22 2013 06:08 AnomalySC2 wrote:
On February 22 2013 05:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Lol I love how people go back to babbling about SC2 dying when all that's happening is IGN's owner isn't doing well financially overall and has to sell stuff, let people go etc. and one of them happens to be IPL. It ain't got shit to do with SC2 dying.


If SC2 wasn't dying, and in fact was growing, then IPL would be something IGN makes profit off of and they wouldn't sell it. Your post makes the exact opposite of sense.


IPL does League of Legends, does this also mean that League of Legends is dying?

LoL, shootmania and SC2 dead there mystery solved I welcome our doto overlords.
Glorious SEA doto
OptimusYale
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1005 Posts
February 21 2013 21:58 GMT
#92
Goms foreign subscription viewer base is dropping, but from what I've gathered they still pull lots of eyes for GSL. They have a TV deal for Code S/Code S reruns, the korean stream is full of adverts and the move in venue is probably to facilitate 'more' esports because OGN can't show everything.

Will there be LoL? Good chance. Will there be Fifa online 3, sudden attack, Syphers and that DOTA2 clone they have knocking around? Probably. I'm sure once the interview with Mr. Chae from choson daily comes out, we will get to know more (Saw him being interviewed in Cafe Bene).

A change in ownership could be a very good thing. They help sell rooms at the cosmopolitan hotel, and they do a fucking good job of it. I feel they're making too much content, and a streamlined system will probably help boost the brand. Who will take it? Who knows
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
February 21 2013 22:01 GMT
#93
On February 22 2013 06:56 Fusilero wrote:
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On February 22 2013 06:13 Dodgin wrote:
On February 22 2013 06:08 AnomalySC2 wrote:
On February 22 2013 05:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Lol I love how people go back to babbling about SC2 dying when all that's happening is IGN's owner isn't doing well financially overall and has to sell stuff, let people go etc. and one of them happens to be IPL. It ain't got shit to do with SC2 dying.


If SC2 wasn't dying, and in fact was growing, then IPL would be something IGN makes profit off of and they wouldn't sell it. Your post makes the exact opposite of sense.


IPL does League of Legends, does this also mean that League of Legends is dying?

LoL, shootmania and SC2 dead there mystery solved I welcome our doto overlords.

Was about to point this is as well to all the SC2 destiny wannabies, IPL has other games than just SC2, if it was SC2 dying then they would just stop broadcasting that game and focus on the others they have. The reason why IGN is selling IPL is because they are doing terrible overall and need to sort out their business so they can become profitable again.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
SChlafmann
Profile Joined September 2011
France725 Posts
February 21 2013 22:02 GMT
#94
EG next owner of IPL, calling it now!

Whatever, I hope to see some good stuff for SC2.
"More GG, more skill" - Nope! Chuck Testa - #BISU2013
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 22:05:30
February 21 2013 22:03 GMT
#95
On February 22 2013 06:30 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 05:22 NoGasfOu wrote:
IPL is ending. MLG's revenue is not enough to pay interest. GOM is losing foreign subscribers day by day.

Looks like the beginning of the end for anything that's not Kespa. BW 2.0 incoming.

SC2 is the 17th played game in pc bangs with even BW being played as much in PC bangs with no proffesional scene at all. There will be no "bw 2.0" because SC2 won't be as popular in SK like ever.


SC2 was never as big as BW in SK. Koreans have the best taste when it comes to competitive gaming.
Soda-88
Profile Joined April 2012
Croatia476 Posts
February 21 2013 22:06 GMT
#96
On February 22 2013 05:22 NoGasfOu wrote:
IPL is ending. MLG's revenue is not enough to pay interest. GOM is losing foreign subscribers day by day.

Looks like the beginning of the end for anything that's not Kespa. BW 2.0 incoming.

What lol
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
February 21 2013 22:07 GMT
#97
The amount of trolls and misinformation in this thread is scary btw O_o
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
February 21 2013 22:11 GMT
#98
On February 22 2013 07:06 Soda-88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 05:22 NoGasfOu wrote:
IPL is ending. MLG's revenue is not enough to pay interest. GOM is losing foreign subscribers day by day.

Looks like the beginning of the end for anything that's not Kespa. BW 2.0 incoming.

What lol


That would be awesome imo. Blizz should rerelease BW as a free to play browser game with a fully functioning ladder system and improved netcode/latency. That would be the best for esports imo. Basically just give it the Quake Live treatment.
Mauldo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States750 Posts
February 21 2013 22:13 GMT
#99
Well, if there is anything that will force MLG/NASL/IPL to actually do like they promised and form a "SC2 scene for North America," maybe it's this. Whoever buys IPL has the chance to do what they promised, oh, two years ago and make a NA tournament the level of GSL with North American players.

Maybe you can read the bitterness between my words, but those tournaments promised us they wouldn't just become Koreans stomping on North Americans, that we would have a scene of our own like Korea and Europe have. What'd they do? NASL especially told us to fuck off within what, the first season?

The posts on the front page of Mr. Chae buying IPL and making it a North American, GSL-esque tournament would be great. It'd be sad that it took a Korean business man to come in and do what American business men have promised us for three years, but it'd just prove that Mr. Chae knows what the fuck is going on and how to soothe my bleeding, rage-ridden nerd heart.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
February 21 2013 22:15 GMT
#100
On February 22 2013 07:11 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 07:06 Soda-88 wrote:
On February 22 2013 05:22 NoGasfOu wrote:
IPL is ending. MLG's revenue is not enough to pay interest. GOM is losing foreign subscribers day by day.

Looks like the beginning of the end for anything that's not Kespa. BW 2.0 incoming.

What lol


That would be awesome imo. Blizz should rerelease BW as a free to play browser game with a fully functioning ladder system and improved netcode/latency. That would be the best for esports imo. Basically just give it the Quake Live treatment.

yeah its done wonders for Quake.....
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