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IGN to "simplify, focus"; wants to sell IPL - Page 7

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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 21 2013 23:06 GMT
#121
I do hope that the IPTL is at least salvaged. It's the best teamleague outside of Korea, and I would hate to lose that.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Crowley.
Profile Joined December 2012
14 Posts
February 21 2013 23:06 GMT
#122
On February 22 2013 07:56 iViNtaGe wrote:
That sucks soo bad =(

Hopefully they cut kibblez.

I really like IPL though. I have lost faith in MLG.


Kibbelz is the only one that deserves the job lol. Knocke is clueless and the new guy can't speak intelligible English.
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
February 21 2013 23:06 GMT
#123
IGN is killing eSports ;;
twitter.com/lumigaming - DongRaeGu is the One True Dong - /r/onetruedong
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
February 21 2013 23:10 GMT
#124
Not surprised ever since I heard that IGN was being sold.
napo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania622 Posts
February 21 2013 23:10 GMT
#125
FXO could buy it.
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
BlackPanther
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States872 Posts
February 21 2013 23:13 GMT
#126
I never really saw how IPL was profitable or sustainable. They certainly don't bring in enough viewership to warrant these big Vegas tournaments and their stream viewer counts have been dwindling in recent times due to their weak casting crew. I think SC2 was in a bit of a bubble anyway because of all the content available but with too small of a target audience.
Rainling
Profile Joined June 2011
United States456 Posts
February 21 2013 23:16 GMT
#127
IPL is my favorite tournament organization right now. Polished, regular content and wonderful casters, especially Kevin.

I hope IPL doesn't go under, but if it does the casters and production at IPL should be picked up by other organizations- they produce very high quality content.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
February 21 2013 23:21 GMT
#128
I have nothing against IGN wanting to sell IPL. As long as production goes up and not down.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
February 21 2013 23:25 GMT
#129
On February 22 2013 08:05 SynapseSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 07:59 jmbthirteen wrote:
On February 22 2013 07:53 SynapseSC wrote:
On February 22 2013 07:49 Chill wrote:
Loved the IPL. The big lesson here is that businesses need to be profitable. You can't run on charity fumes forever.


David Ting has said in multiple interviews that IPL is profitable... so unless you think he's entirely bullshitting?

source?

EDIT: actually you are just flat out wrong. Don't even bother finding a source.
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/jan/07/ipl-spent-over-1-million-years-event-and-lost-money-they-expect-it-make-money-its-fifth-year/

IGN Pro League's founder, David Ting, recently stated that with this past year's IPL events the company had lost money


On the event. As in IPL5. Not overall. IPL4 was break even/profitable as an event.

Last year IPL lost money. Thats not being profitable. You can't have one event be profitable and then claim IPL is profitable, which your original post said. You can't say David Ting has said IPL is profitable when I find a story saying the opposite and that they don't expect to be profitable until year 5.
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Robin_thewonder
Profile Joined April 2011
154 Posts
February 21 2013 23:28 GMT
#130
On February 22 2013 08:06 Crowley. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 07:56 iViNtaGe wrote:
That sucks soo bad =(

Hopefully they cut kibblez.

I really like IPL though. I have lost faith in MLG.


Kibbelz is the only one that deserves the job lol. Knocke is clueless and the new guy can't speak intelligible English.


I spk sum Englash.
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
February 21 2013 23:28 GMT
#131
This can only mean good things for SC2.
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
February 21 2013 23:28 GMT
#132
On February 22 2013 07:41 Sway.746 wrote:
How much in profit is IPL making yearly right now? They'll probably sell for 2-3 times that price.

+ Show Spoiler +
Yes I know they're losing money, and the idea of someone buying a company that bleeds money and doesn't have a business model is hilarious.

PE Ratio of 2-3?
That's pretty cheap.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
February 21 2013 23:30 GMT
#133
On February 22 2013 08:28 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 07:41 Sway.746 wrote:
How much in profit is IPL making yearly right now? They'll probably sell for 2-3 times that price.

+ Show Spoiler +
Yes I know they're losing money, and the idea of someone buying a company that bleeds money and doesn't have a business model is hilarious.

PE Ratio of 2-3?
That's pretty cheap.


From viewership numbers I'd imagine their earnings have actually been going down for the last year, so not really.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
February 21 2013 23:30 GMT
#134
Please someone make sure IPL will be just as awesome!
God I wish I was done with school. When I start earning money I am going to donate as much as I can with my doctor salary. I don't give a shit about my own wealth. I just want my children and next generations to experience something I was not able to.
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1779 Posts
February 21 2013 23:31 GMT
#135
Knockne is the best play by play caster in the business, and really one of the few who understandsvwhat a cast should be.
Zyufin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States85 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 23:34:59
February 21 2013 23:34 GMT
#136
What is the "product" anyways? It's not like you're buying IP rights to their tournament/league structure. You're just buying a name, but the only name(s) that the community generally cares about are those of the players. The money it would cost to "buy ipl" would be better put into just building your own tournament/league.

The only benefit I can think of is that sponsors might be more willing to jump on board with an established tournament (albeit one that just sold out because they were turning a loss....).
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
February 21 2013 23:35 GMT
#137
Very Interesting new. TBH i saw this coming with all the revenue IPL put out and not enough is coming back in. Shame i hope somebody buys from them and makes it better
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Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
February 21 2013 23:40 GMT
#138
IPL is hardly a "brand" that will sell for all that much

If any company wanted to invest with their own money and get sponsors abroad they can easily name their tournament anything they wanted, not like IPL was doing great as viewership for SC2 has been on a decline for the past 2 years.
★ Top Gun ★
MrSnibbles
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom267 Posts
February 21 2013 23:40 GMT
#139
IPL just need to let Robin cast more, more Robin, more viewers, mo money.
Thank you, based god.
Robin_thewonder
Profile Joined April 2011
154 Posts
February 21 2013 23:42 GMT
#140
On February 22 2013 08:40 MrSnibbles wrote:
IPL just need to let Robin cast more, more Robin, more viewers, mo money.


This guy knows!! <3 <3
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