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KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 23:20:13
February 26 2013 23:06 GMT
#441
Hhhmmm ... well he got banned, I suppose that means IPL will have 4 great events this year.

Although, more seriously, I think IPL will shut down after IPL6.

Some are saying Red Bull bought IPL but it could just be a troll.

RedBull has purchased IPL


Comogury
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States412 Posts
February 27 2013 05:10 GMT
#442
On February 27 2013 08:06 KelianQatar wrote:
Hhhmmm ... well he got banned, I suppose that means IPL will have 4 great events this year.

Although, more seriously, I think IPL will shut down after IPL6.

Some are saying Red Bull bought IPL but it could just be a troll.

RedBull has purchased IPL



Pretty sure that's fake at least of right now.

IPL needs to survive. Buy them please someone! ;_;
Phokus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States31 Posts
February 27 2013 08:26 GMT
#443
kind of a bummer. I was at IPL3 and it was awesome! never understood why they did not host another IPL in AC though =/
wait...what?
KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
March 01 2013 03:49 GMT
#444
Looks like IPL6 is not gonna happen.

IPL6 Cancelled

IPL6 Shut Down

Someone owe's Raynor an apology, he had it right the whole time. IPL is a money pit and no one wants anything to do with it.
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
March 01 2013 03:52 GMT
#445
On March 01 2013 12:49 KelianQatar wrote:
Looks like IPL6 is not gonna happen.

IPL6 Cancelled

IPL6 Shut Down

Someone owe's Raynor an apology, he had it right the whole time. IPL is a money pit and no one wants anything to do with it.
No one owes him an apology, he was being an asshole and a troll the entire time. It does appear, though, that either IGN/Ziff Davis is being unbelievably stupid or they consider IPL to have very little value.
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
March 01 2013 04:01 GMT
#446
Raynor was attacked personally and he countered with polite, well thought out posts

As it turns out, his concerns about money were valid.

IF you can find any posts where he is swearing or attacking any one ... show them

I don't think IGN.com is being stupid, they are trying to make money. IPL is losing money.
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
March 01 2013 04:42 GMT
#447
On March 01 2013 12:52 bduddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 12:49 KelianQatar wrote:
Looks like IPL6 is not gonna happen.

IPL6 Cancelled

IPL6 Shut Down

Someone owe's Raynor an apology, he had it right the whole time. IPL is a money pit and no one wants anything to do with it.
No one owes him an apology, he was being an asshole and a troll the entire time. It does appear, though, that either IGN/Ziff Davis is being unbelievably stupid or they consider IPL to have very little value.


Raynor was not being an asshole or a troll. He presented his opinions and got flamed for it. But alot of people here are too inexperienced / young / immature to see his points of view.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
March 01 2013 04:56 GMT
#448
On March 01 2013 13:01 KelianQatar wrote:
Raynor was attacked personally and he countered with polite, well thought out posts

As it turns out, his concerns about money were valid.

IF you can find any posts where he is swearing or attacking any one ... show them

I don't think IGN.com is being stupid, they are trying to make money. IPL is losing money.

7 Posts on this guy, every single one either on one of JimmyJRaynor's threads, or saying how right JJR is, or both.

If you're going to smurf, try harder.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
MarkCJ
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 04:58:00
March 01 2013 04:57 GMT
#449
On February 27 2013 08:06 KelianQatar wrote:
Hhhmmm ... well he got banned, I suppose that means IPL will have 4 great events this year.

Although, more seriously, I think IPL will shut down after IPL6.

Some are saying Red Bull bought IPL but it could just be a troll.

RedBull has purchased IPL



It's from scoots and we haven't heard anything from any official source yet. let's just wait this out..
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MikeMM
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation221 Posts
March 01 2013 06:41 GMT
#450
On March 01 2013 12:52 bduddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 12:49 KelianQatar wrote:
Looks like IPL6 is not gonna happen.

IPL6 Cancelled

IPL6 Shut Down

Someone owe's Raynor an apology, he had it right the whole time. IPL is a money pit and no one wants anything to do with it.
No one owes him an apology, he was being an asshole and a troll the entire time. It does appear, though, that either IGN/Ziff Davis is being unbelievably stupid or they consider IPL to have very little value.

You insult people so easily.
You call Raynor asshole and troll, Ziff Davis stupid.
You deserve ban more than Raynor.
justsayinbro
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
307 Posts
March 01 2013 06:44 GMT
#451
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EGleague inc
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
March 01 2013 06:54 GMT
#452
On March 01 2013 12:49 KelianQatar wrote:
Looks like IPL6 is not gonna happen.

IPL6 Cancelled

IPL6 Shut Down

Someone owe's Raynor an apology, he had it right the whole time. IPL is a money pit and no one wants anything to do with it.


Really cancelled? Didn't we just see some eSF qualifier group broadcasted?
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
March 01 2013 07:37 GMT
#453
On March 01 2013 15:54 edgeOut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 12:49 KelianQatar wrote:
Looks like IPL6 is not gonna happen.

IPL6 Cancelled

IPL6 Shut Down

Someone owe's Raynor an apology, he had it right the whole time. IPL is a money pit and no one wants anything to do with it.


Really cancelled? Didn't we just see some eSF qualifier group broadcasted?


It's not officially announced cancelled, so work has to be done regardless. IPL is still running as we speak.
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
March 01 2013 10:28 GMT
#454
On February 24 2013 18:16 kollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 18:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On February 24 2013 17:58 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On February 24 2013 16:03 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On February 24 2013 12:38 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On February 24 2013 09:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On February 24 2013 09:41 Dundron2000 wrote:
On February 24 2013 09:24 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On February 24 2013 09:21 kollin wrote:
On February 24 2013 09:18 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
[quote]

that is great, however, hte head of the IPL said they are 5 years from profitability.
Ziff Davis said "find another sugar daddy".

What


is that your Stone Cold Steve Austin imitation?

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/jan/07/ipl-spent-over-1-million-years-event-and-lost-money-they-expect-it-make-money-its-fifth-year/

and as you know Ziff-Davis is trying to sell the league.

although why any one would buy it to lose money for 5 years is beyond me.

IPLs previous "value proposition" was that it drew traffic to IGN.com. ZD announced their alternative method of attracting that same traffic is by simply reporting on eSPorts events rather than paying out the prize money.


well you said it yourself, 5 years from profitability.. so "losing" money for 5 years isnt really true, rather it means you will make money in the future to compensate for the initial costs. so it has more to do with short versus long term investement strategies rather than "sugar daddies".


ya well there are 5 million assumptions that go into this "plan for profitability"
any one can lose money.
the tricky part is making it.

if IPLs plan look like a sure thing to you then put together a group of investors and laugh all ur way to the bank.


It's worth noting that most business (even small ones) are not profitable until a long time after they are established, simply by the nature of start up costs.

While IPL may have put in $1million last year, a lot of that will be the cost of setting up infrastructure, hiring and training the employees, buying the required equipment, etc.


and many businesses never see a profit and just go out of business.

so far 2 big corporations are not willing to wait: Newscorp and ZiffDavis.
and their actions speak louder than your words.

Yes...and?

If almost all businesses take a long time to offset start-up costs, and if some businesses close down after a short period, it stands to reason that some businesses close down without being profitable.

This is technically what investing is all about: Losing short term money with the prospect of gaining in the long term.


and IGN and the league it owns IPL was shopped around for months and months with Newscorp unable to find a buyer.
finally it went to auction.

no one thinks IPL is going to make some big turnaround.

if you do... you should get some friends together and buy it.. because at this point its available for pennies on the dollar.



OK you seem pretty confident, why don't you put your money where your mouth is. If IPL is sold, you get a 30 day ban. If IPL isn't sold, I get a 30 day ban.

Still want to do this??
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
March 01 2013 11:33 GMT
#455
On February 22 2013 11:29 CatsPajamas wrote:
Hey everyone! Don't worry about us. ^__^ We're all still together and making content, and you'll know much more from us soon.

P.S. The speculation in this thread is hilarious to me. :D Don't fret, everyone.



You told us not to worry Kevin! Well, I'm worried right now.
xlord 5:0
KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
March 01 2013 12:35 GMT
#456
On March 01 2013 13:56 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 13:01 KelianQatar wrote:
Raynor was attacked personally and he countered with polite, well thought out posts

As it turns out, his concerns about money were valid.

IF you can find any posts where he is swearing or attacking any one ... show them

I don't think IGN.com is being stupid, they are trying to make money. IPL is losing money.

7 Posts on this guy, every single one either on one of JimmyJRaynor's threads, or saying how right JJR is, or both.

If you're going to smurf, try harder.


If you read all of my posts, I said IPL might have been purchased by RedBull, I was hoping he was wrong.

I'm fairly new to the forums, and with everyone attacking him for an opinion, why would anyone want to post a lot?

I'm a girl, not a smurf.
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
March 01 2013 13:31 GMT
#457
On February 22 2013 11:29 CatsPajamas wrote:
Hey everyone! Don't worry about us. ^__^ We're all still together and making content, and you'll know much more from us soon.

P.S. The speculation in this thread is hilarious to me. :D Don't fret, everyone.


the fun part when speculation is true.
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
delo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States333 Posts
March 01 2013 15:55 GMT
#458
On February 23 2013 02:05 CatsPajamas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2013 01:21 T.O.P. wrote:
On February 22 2013 23:39 Doodsmack wrote:
OP needs to add catspajamas' post to the OP because people are still just assuming IPL is going to die lol.

Catspajamas isn't management. He doesn't make the decisions. He's gonna keep producing content until management tells him they're moving in another direction. I think IPL will continue to run until they exhausted their search for a buyer.


Sorry, but you're dead wrong. I am management (and the 4th longest tenured employee at the IPL) and have known about this for weeks. :D We'll be letting everyone know more soon. The continued speculation in this thread is fun, guys, but hold on to your hats and you'll know more about our situation as soon as possible.

Assuming IPL6 is, in fact, canceled, I feel bad for all the folks who took off work, bought plane tickets, and booked hotel rooms to go there who will lose money due, in part, to your casual dismissal of folks' speculation about IPL and implied trust we should have in what you say because, as you said, you're "management" and have "known about [the IGN restructuring] for weeks". Well since you're management, you should probably be out there telling everyone what the story is so everyone can change their plans accordingly. If it's true that sponsor products are being returned, then at this point it seems like a done deal that IPL6 is not happening. I'm guessing you didn't know about this most recent development "for weeks", though, and it absolutely sucks for all involved (especially IPL leadership), but it's time to end the speculation.
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
March 01 2013 15:58 GMT
#459
On March 01 2013 19:28 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 18:16 kollin wrote:
On February 24 2013 18:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On February 24 2013 17:58 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On February 24 2013 16:03 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On February 24 2013 12:38 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On February 24 2013 09:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On February 24 2013 09:41 Dundron2000 wrote:
On February 24 2013 09:24 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On February 24 2013 09:21 kollin wrote:
[quote]
What


is that your Stone Cold Steve Austin imitation?

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/jan/07/ipl-spent-over-1-million-years-event-and-lost-money-they-expect-it-make-money-its-fifth-year/

and as you know Ziff-Davis is trying to sell the league.

although why any one would buy it to lose money for 5 years is beyond me.

IPLs previous "value proposition" was that it drew traffic to IGN.com. ZD announced their alternative method of attracting that same traffic is by simply reporting on eSPorts events rather than paying out the prize money.


well you said it yourself, 5 years from profitability.. so "losing" money for 5 years isnt really true, rather it means you will make money in the future to compensate for the initial costs. so it has more to do with short versus long term investement strategies rather than "sugar daddies".


ya well there are 5 million assumptions that go into this "plan for profitability"
any one can lose money.
the tricky part is making it.

if IPLs plan look like a sure thing to you then put together a group of investors and laugh all ur way to the bank.


It's worth noting that most business (even small ones) are not profitable until a long time after they are established, simply by the nature of start up costs.

While IPL may have put in $1million last year, a lot of that will be the cost of setting up infrastructure, hiring and training the employees, buying the required equipment, etc.


and many businesses never see a profit and just go out of business.

so far 2 big corporations are not willing to wait: Newscorp and ZiffDavis.
and their actions speak louder than your words.

Yes...and?

If almost all businesses take a long time to offset start-up costs, and if some businesses close down after a short period, it stands to reason that some businesses close down without being profitable.

This is technically what investing is all about: Losing short term money with the prospect of gaining in the long term.


and IGN and the league it owns IPL was shopped around for months and months with Newscorp unable to find a buyer.
finally it went to auction.

no one thinks IPL is going to make some big turnaround.

if you do... you should get some friends together and buy it.. because at this point its available for pennies on the dollar.



OK you seem pretty confident, why don't you put your money where your mouth is. If IPL is sold, you get a 30 day ban. If IPL isn't sold, I get a 30 day ban.

Still want to do this??

I said IPL is sold not cancelled :D
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
March 01 2013 19:48 GMT
#460
On March 02 2013 00:58 kollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 19:28 Kennigit wrote:
On February 24 2013 18:16 kollin wrote:
On February 24 2013 18:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On February 24 2013 17:58 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On February 24 2013 16:03 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On February 24 2013 12:38 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On February 24 2013 09:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On February 24 2013 09:41 Dundron2000 wrote:
On February 24 2013 09:24 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
[quote]

is that your Stone Cold Steve Austin imitation?

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/jan/07/ipl-spent-over-1-million-years-event-and-lost-money-they-expect-it-make-money-its-fifth-year/

and as you know Ziff-Davis is trying to sell the league.

although why any one would buy it to lose money for 5 years is beyond me.

IPLs previous "value proposition" was that it drew traffic to IGN.com. ZD announced their alternative method of attracting that same traffic is by simply reporting on eSPorts events rather than paying out the prize money.


well you said it yourself, 5 years from profitability.. so "losing" money for 5 years isnt really true, rather it means you will make money in the future to compensate for the initial costs. so it has more to do with short versus long term investement strategies rather than "sugar daddies".


ya well there are 5 million assumptions that go into this "plan for profitability"
any one can lose money.
the tricky part is making it.

if IPLs plan look like a sure thing to you then put together a group of investors and laugh all ur way to the bank.


It's worth noting that most business (even small ones) are not profitable until a long time after they are established, simply by the nature of start up costs.

While IPL may have put in $1million last year, a lot of that will be the cost of setting up infrastructure, hiring and training the employees, buying the required equipment, etc.


and many businesses never see a profit and just go out of business.

so far 2 big corporations are not willing to wait: Newscorp and ZiffDavis.
and their actions speak louder than your words.

Yes...and?

If almost all businesses take a long time to offset start-up costs, and if some businesses close down after a short period, it stands to reason that some businesses close down without being profitable.

This is technically what investing is all about: Losing short term money with the prospect of gaining in the long term.


and IGN and the league it owns IPL was shopped around for months and months with Newscorp unable to find a buyer.
finally it went to auction.

no one thinks IPL is going to make some big turnaround.

if you do... you should get some friends together and buy it.. because at this point its available for pennies on the dollar.



OK you seem pretty confident, why don't you put your money where your mouth is. If IPL is sold, you get a 30 day ban. If IPL isn't sold, I get a 30 day ban.

Still want to do this??

I said IPL is sold not cancelled :D
Let's be honest, now, if this IPL is cancelled then the brand is basically worthless (possibly worse than worthless) and IGN has no chance of selling it to anyone.
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
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