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Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
February 20 2013 22:03 GMT
#81
On February 21 2013 01:33 Warpish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 00:29 FLuE wrote:
I don't really understand it. Press a button, record an action. Number of times that happens in a minute is actions per minute. Seems simple enough. Don't even get started on the Blizzard minute vs. actual minute either....


Yes, it's really hard to understand what justifies an abomination like Blizzard minutes. I really can't wrap my head around it.

Isn't that just because you don't play on normal speed but on faster?
Buff345
Profile Joined October 2010
United States323 Posts
February 20 2013 22:07 GMT
#82
I skimmed this thread and didnt see anyone posted this so I will. I dunno if it even matters, but I'm about a 250-270 apm player with terran. I basically only play terran lately and Im really only good with them.

But I played a match as Zerg the other day against another master terran, and I had 400 apm with zerg. I have no idea why really. My opponent was playing pretty quickly with like 320 apm, but I had easily an extra 150 apm just for playing zerg. I dunno what it is that is taken into account for zerg as opposed to terran but I figured id mention it. If youre playing zerg then your apm is probably going to be higher. As terran my apm is about the same as it was in wol.
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
February 20 2013 22:14 GMT
#83
Mine went from 90 to more than 200, which means I'm more than twice as good.

Given that I'm in the sixth out of seven leagues in WoL, I'd be in the twelfth league in HotS (five leagues above Grand Master), so I really should attend Code S.

Thanks Blizzard!
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JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
February 20 2013 22:22 GMT
#84
On February 21 2013 07:14 kafkaesque wrote:
Mine went from 90 to more than 200, which means I'm more than twice as good.

Given that I'm in the sixth out of seven leagues in WoL, I'd be in the twelfth league in HotS (five leagues above Grand Master), so I really should attend Code S.

Thanks Blizzard!


That makes a lot of sense. GomTV should offer you a seed for sure.
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11379 Posts
February 20 2013 22:29 GMT
#85
On February 21 2013 07:03 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 01:33 Warpish wrote:
On February 21 2013 00:29 FLuE wrote:
I don't really understand it. Press a button, record an action. Number of times that happens in a minute is actions per minute. Seems simple enough. Don't even get started on the Blizzard minute vs. actual minute either....


Yes, it's really hard to understand what justifies an abomination like Blizzard minutes. I really can't wrap my head around it.

Isn't that just because you don't play on normal speed but on faster?

It is, but it really can't be that hard. We play on Fastest with BW and yet the APM is still measured by an actual minute and not a 'Fastest' minute. Whatever that would be. It's supposed to be an easy actions/time. But using non-standard time makes the number rather meaningless. 30 actions in one minute or 300 actions in one minute makes sense. A minute that is faster than a minute doesn't make sense.
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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
February 20 2013 22:34 GMT
#86
On February 21 2013 07:22 JOJOsc2news wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 07:14 kafkaesque wrote:
Mine went from 90 to more than 200, which means I'm more than twice as good.

Given that I'm in the sixth out of seven leagues in WoL, I'd be in the twelfth league in HotS (five leagues above Grand Master), so I really should attend Code S.

Thanks Blizzard!


That makes a lot of sense. GomTV should offer you a seed for sure.

Maybe we should just give him the golden mouse straight away? He is to a GM as a GM is to a silver player after all, so let's just skip the humiliation for the so called "pros" and just give him all the titles imaginable. Also all the sponsor money I guess.
mumming
Profile Joined June 2010
Faroe Islands256 Posts
February 20 2013 23:07 GMT
#87
and what is up with the score screen apm thing? It says my average apm this season is >1000
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
February 20 2013 23:13 GMT
#88
On February 21 2013 07:34 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 07:22 JOJOsc2news wrote:
On February 21 2013 07:14 kafkaesque wrote:
Mine went from 90 to more than 200, which means I'm more than twice as good.

Given that I'm in the sixth out of seven leagues in WoL, I'd be in the twelfth league in HotS (five leagues above Grand Master), so I really should attend Code S.

Thanks Blizzard!


That makes a lot of sense. GomTV should offer you a seed for sure.

Maybe we should just give him the golden mouse straight away? He is to a GM as a GM is to a silver player after all, so let's just skip the humiliation for the so called "pros" and just give him all the titles imaginable. Also all the sponsor money I guess.


Fuck, let's bury him beneath a 20 foot statue in his likeness--why wait for him to die with great deeds, we know he'll do them anyway. Just grab him and shove him beneath his memorial like a true hero.
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Typhoon1789
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia292 Posts
February 20 2013 23:47 GMT
#89
Mine went up about 50.

Its like 150 APM and 140 EAPM in the new counter.
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Typhoon1789
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia292 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-20 23:50:53
February 20 2013 23:50 GMT
#90
On February 21 2013 07:07 Buff345 wrote:
I skimmed this thread and didnt see anyone posted this so I will. I dunno if it even matters, but I'm about a 250-270 apm player with terran. I basically only play terran lately and Im really only good with them.

But I played a match as Zerg the other day against another master terran, and I had 400 apm with zerg. I have no idea why really. My opponent was playing pretty quickly with like 320 apm, but I had easily an extra 150 apm just for playing zerg. I dunno what it is that is taken into account for zerg as opposed to terran but I figured id mention it. If youre playing zerg then your apm is probably going to be higher. As terran my apm is about the same as it was in wol.


Your APM is always higher with zerg.

Its always been like this with me.

80 - 90 apm with toss, 100 - 120 with terran and 130 - 150 with zerg. (old counter)
Professional Cunt.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
February 20 2013 23:55 GMT
#91
On February 21 2013 08:50 Typhoon1789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 07:07 Buff345 wrote:
I skimmed this thread and didnt see anyone posted this so I will. I dunno if it even matters, but I'm about a 250-270 apm player with terran. I basically only play terran lately and Im really only good with them.

But I played a match as Zerg the other day against another master terran, and I had 400 apm with zerg. I have no idea why really. My opponent was playing pretty quickly with like 320 apm, but I had easily an extra 150 apm just for playing zerg. I dunno what it is that is taken into account for zerg as opposed to terran but I figured id mention it. If youre playing zerg then your apm is probably going to be higher. As terran my apm is about the same as it was in wol.


Your APM is always higher with zerg.

Its always been like this with me.

80 - 90 apm with toss, 100 - 120 with terran and 130 - 150 with zerg. (old counter)

That isn't true at all lol. HerO is known to heavily out multi-task his opponents and he plays toss. Back on topic, they screw up APM more and more, but it doesn't really matter. What matters is knowing that you can increase it a certain increment rather than an actual value, there are outside programs that calculate that anyways so we should be fine.
User was warned for too many mimes.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
February 21 2013 00:14 GMT
#92
My average APM is like ~480 according to HOTS. Someone sign me up for GSL.
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
February 21 2013 00:14 GMT
#93
On February 21 2013 08:55 docvoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 08:50 Typhoon1789 wrote:
On February 21 2013 07:07 Buff345 wrote:
I skimmed this thread and didnt see anyone posted this so I will. I dunno if it even matters, but I'm about a 250-270 apm player with terran. I basically only play terran lately and Im really only good with them.

But I played a match as Zerg the other day against another master terran, and I had 400 apm with zerg. I have no idea why really. My opponent was playing pretty quickly with like 320 apm, but I had easily an extra 150 apm just for playing zerg. I dunno what it is that is taken into account for zerg as opposed to terran but I figured id mention it. If youre playing zerg then your apm is probably going to be higher. As terran my apm is about the same as it was in wol.


Your APM is always higher with zerg.

Its always been like this with me.

80 - 90 apm with toss, 100 - 120 with terran and 130 - 150 with zerg. (old counter)

That isn't true at all lol. HerO is known to heavily out multi-task his opponents and he plays toss. Back on topic, they screw up APM more and more, but it doesn't really matter. What matters is knowing that you can increase it a certain increment rather than an actual value, there are outside programs that calculate that anyways so we should be fine.

Does Hero play all races? If no than his example is irrelevant.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
February 21 2013 00:27 GMT
#94
On February 21 2013 09:14 Cheerio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 08:55 docvoc wrote:
On February 21 2013 08:50 Typhoon1789 wrote:
On February 21 2013 07:07 Buff345 wrote:
I skimmed this thread and didnt see anyone posted this so I will. I dunno if it even matters, but I'm about a 250-270 apm player with terran. I basically only play terran lately and Im really only good with them.

But I played a match as Zerg the other day against another master terran, and I had 400 apm with zerg. I have no idea why really. My opponent was playing pretty quickly with like 320 apm, but I had easily an extra 150 apm just for playing zerg. I dunno what it is that is taken into account for zerg as opposed to terran but I figured id mention it. If youre playing zerg then your apm is probably going to be higher. As terran my apm is about the same as it was in wol.


Your APM is always higher with zerg.

Its always been like this with me.

80 - 90 apm with toss, 100 - 120 with terran and 130 - 150 with zerg. (old counter)

That isn't true at all lol. HerO is known to heavily out multi-task his opponents and he plays toss. Back on topic, they screw up APM more and more, but it doesn't really matter. What matters is knowing that you can increase it a certain increment rather than an actual value, there are outside programs that calculate that anyways so we should be fine.

Does Hero play all races? If no than his example is irrelevant.

No, he took it to be a race insult.
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Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
February 21 2013 01:05 GMT
#95
My apm is over 9000. Take that nubs.

I dno really, my apm at scorescreen is not even the same apm as I have when I check the replay. I have higher average in replay :S
Amove for Aiur
Typhoon1789
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia292 Posts
February 21 2013 01:24 GMT
#96
On February 21 2013 09:27 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 09:14 Cheerio wrote:
On February 21 2013 08:55 docvoc wrote:
On February 21 2013 08:50 Typhoon1789 wrote:
On February 21 2013 07:07 Buff345 wrote:
I skimmed this thread and didnt see anyone posted this so I will. I dunno if it even matters, but I'm about a 250-270 apm player with terran. I basically only play terran lately and Im really only good with them.

But I played a match as Zerg the other day against another master terran, and I had 400 apm with zerg. I have no idea why really. My opponent was playing pretty quickly with like 320 apm, but I had easily an extra 150 apm just for playing zerg. I dunno what it is that is taken into account for zerg as opposed to terran but I figured id mention it. If youre playing zerg then your apm is probably going to be higher. As terran my apm is about the same as it was in wol.


Your APM is always higher with zerg.

Its always been like this with me.

80 - 90 apm with toss, 100 - 120 with terran and 130 - 150 with zerg. (old counter)

That isn't true at all lol. HerO is known to heavily out multi-task his opponents and he plays toss. Back on topic, they screw up APM more and more, but it doesn't really matter. What matters is knowing that you can increase it a certain increment rather than an actual value, there are outside programs that calculate that anyways so we should be fine.

Does Hero play all races? If no than his example is irrelevant.

No, he took it to be a race insult.


The thing it is not a race insult. Im am by no means saying toss has to use less APM. Its just how the counter works. The reason why zerg APM is higher from what i can tell is all the repetitive actions you have to pull off such as creep spread and injecting inflate apm quite abit.
Professional Cunt.
HolyExlxF
Profile Joined March 2011
United States256 Posts
February 21 2013 01:40 GMT
#97
Why the fuck can't APM actually mean "actions per minute."
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
February 21 2013 01:50 GMT
#98
On February 21 2013 10:40 HolyExlxF wrote:
Why the fuck can't APM actually mean "actions per minute."


yeah I fail to understand why this APM thingy could generate 300 threads. We all know that gamers spam apm in early game and tend to stabilize later on. Why bothering creating 25 ways to calculate instead of the number of key pressed and mouse clicked?
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
February 21 2013 01:51 GMT
#99
Pretty sure my APM doubled after this patch. Went from 130 to 260 average :/
LeafMeAlone
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States301 Posts
February 21 2013 02:05 GMT
#100
What I really want to know is Jaedong's new apm
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