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Traceback
Profile Joined October 2010
United States469 Posts
March 22 2013 17:50 GMT
#241
How does blizzard consistently break something as simple as an APM tab...
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-23 08:24:17
March 23 2013 08:23 GMT
#242
^This.

Blizzard should really adress this as an issue. Many players took the apm number seriously to check if you were playing faster progresively with the practice.

Now is just a totally useless number.
Chicken gank op
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
March 23 2013 08:33 GMT
#243
Theres a 200% difference between my 1v1 games and my teamgames apm...

1v1 would be closing in on 300, and teamgames would barely make 100 at times....
Its not like Im slacking that hard :/
Stop procrastinating
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
March 23 2013 08:35 GMT
#244
Would be nice if we could just ask Blizzard to tell us what they did to it this time...-.-
askmc70
Profile Joined March 2012
United States722 Posts
March 23 2013 08:38 GMT
#245
apm is not even important... no reason to keep changing it
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
March 23 2013 08:50 GMT
#246
It's disappointing that they cannot just fix the goddamned reading to mean...actions...per....minute. The readings in game and out of game don't even match. And some actions inflate apm while other actions (camera hotkeys) don't register at all.

Didn't Blizzard mention that they were going to fix this issue?
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
arcane1129
Profile Joined January 2011
United States270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-23 09:20:57
March 23 2013 09:20 GMT
#247
Whoever coded apm at blizzard I imagine just sat on his keyboard and whatever ended up on the screen went into the game

then got a promotion
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 23 2013 09:29 GMT
#248
Perhaps they are doing it on purpose. It reminds me of a joke:

A man goes to the rabbi and complains, "Life is unbearable. There are nine of us living in one room. What can I do?"

The rabbi answers, "Take your goat into the room with you." The man in incredulous, but the rabbi insists. "Do as I say and come back in a week."

A week later the man comes back looking more distraught than before. "We cannot stand it," he tells the rabbi. "The goat is filthy." The rabbi then tells him, "Then go get yourself a dog and come back in a week." The man is shocked but does as the Rabbi says.

Another week later the man comes back looking terrible. "It's horrible. It's 9 of us in a room, the goat has made everything filthy and the dog barks all day." The rabbi says: "There's only one thing to do. Get yourself a pig! Then come back in a week." The man cannot believe his ears but once again does what the rabbi tells him.

A week goes past and the man slouches into the rabbi's quarters. "I cannot stand it. It's 9 of us in a room, the goat is a dirty animal, the dog barks even more and the pig sleeps on the couch." The rabbi looks at the man, ponders for a bit and then answers, "Go home and let the goat, the dog and the pig out. And come back in a week."

A radiant man returns to the rabbi a week later, exclaiming, "Life is beautiful. We enjoy every minute of it now that there's no goat, no barking and no pig -- only the nine of us."

I'd say we'll also take whichever half-decent measure of APM by the time Blizz is done with us...
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Chrono000
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Korea (South)358 Posts
March 23 2013 16:54 GMT
#249
On March 23 2013 18:29 Ghanburighan wrote:
Perhaps they are doing it on purpose. It reminds me of a joke:

A man goes to the rabbi and complains, "Life is unbearable. There are nine of us living in one room. What can I do?"

The rabbi answers, "Take your goat into the room with you." The man in incredulous, but the rabbi insists. "Do as I say and come back in a week."

A week later the man comes back looking more distraught than before. "We cannot stand it," he tells the rabbi. "The goat is filthy." The rabbi then tells him, "Then go get yourself a dog and come back in a week." The man is shocked but does as the Rabbi says.

Another week later the man comes back looking terrible. "It's horrible. It's 9 of us in a room, the goat has made everything filthy and the dog barks all day." The rabbi says: "There's only one thing to do. Get yourself a pig! Then come back in a week." The man cannot believe his ears but once again does what the rabbi tells him.

A week goes past and the man slouches into the rabbi's quarters. "I cannot stand it. It's 9 of us in a room, the goat is a dirty animal, the dog barks even more and the pig sleeps on the couch." The rabbi looks at the man, ponders for a bit and then answers, "Go home and let the goat, the dog and the pig out. And come back in a week."

A radiant man returns to the rabbi a week later, exclaiming, "Life is beautiful. We enjoy every minute of it now that there's no goat, no barking and no pig -- only the nine of us."

I'd say we'll also take whichever half-decent measure of APM by the time Blizz is done with us...




HAHAHA! ive heard this one before but it has been a long time since ive heard it again.

This joke applies to the whole game... They know the basic problems with it already and they are taking there sweet as time to deliver so they can control our exceptions of the game. For example patching things now that should of been worked on ages ago like the hydra (which is still broken and everyone knows it).

Whatever they update is just a big relief to us because it is so painful to live with the current state of the game that anything they do is 'awesome'.
o29
Profile Joined November 2010
United States220 Posts
March 23 2013 17:03 GMT
#250
On March 24 2013 01:54 Chrono000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2013 18:29 Ghanburighan wrote:
Perhaps they are doing it on purpose. It reminds me of a joke:

A man goes to the rabbi and complains, "Life is unbearable. There are nine of us living in one room. What can I do?"

The rabbi answers, "Take your goat into the room with you." The man in incredulous, but the rabbi insists. "Do as I say and come back in a week."

A week later the man comes back looking more distraught than before. "We cannot stand it," he tells the rabbi. "The goat is filthy." The rabbi then tells him, "Then go get yourself a dog and come back in a week." The man is shocked but does as the Rabbi says.

Another week later the man comes back looking terrible. "It's horrible. It's 9 of us in a room, the goat has made everything filthy and the dog barks all day." The rabbi says: "There's only one thing to do. Get yourself a pig! Then come back in a week." The man cannot believe his ears but once again does what the rabbi tells him.

A week goes past and the man slouches into the rabbi's quarters. "I cannot stand it. It's 9 of us in a room, the goat is a dirty animal, the dog barks even more and the pig sleeps on the couch." The rabbi looks at the man, ponders for a bit and then answers, "Go home and let the goat, the dog and the pig out. And come back in a week."

A radiant man returns to the rabbi a week later, exclaiming, "Life is beautiful. We enjoy every minute of it now that there's no goat, no barking and no pig -- only the nine of us."

I'd say we'll also take whichever half-decent measure of APM by the time Blizz is done with us...




HAHAHA! ive heard this one before but it has been a long time since ive heard it again.

This joke applies to the whole game... They know the basic problems with it already and they are taking there sweet as time to deliver so they can control our exceptions of the game. For example patching things now that should of been worked on ages ago like the hydra (which is still broken and everyone knows it).

Whatever they update is just a big relief to us because it is so painful to live with the current state of the game that anything they do is 'awesome'.


I see what you're saying and to some extent agree, but you're being quite hyperbolic. If it's "so painful to live with the current state of the game" then why are you playing and/or watching SC2? If you're miserable with how the game is now, maybe it's just time to find a new game.
TheVoicedElk
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom28 Posts
March 23 2013 17:08 GMT
#251
If you reaally cared about what your apm was exactly then you'd use something like sc2 gears, so I don't see why this is an issue as you can still use it to see if your playing faster or slower than you usually would
Top 4 Control
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
March 23 2013 19:26 GMT
#252
On March 23 2013 02:50 Traceback wrote:
How does blizzard consistently break something as simple as an APM tab...

I don't think it's simple, there must be lots of calculations since APM rapidly change during 1 minute mark. They should invent APS instead.
Msr
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)495 Posts
March 23 2013 19:29 GMT
#253
Their old apm system understated your apm by like 40%, blizzard wont fix this because its smart on their part to have peoples apm overstated. I imagine this was intentional by them.
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
March 23 2013 19:33 GMT
#254
On March 24 2013 04:29 Msr wrote:
Their old apm system understated your apm by like 40%, blizzard wont fix this because its smart on their part to have peoples apm overstated. I imagine this was intentional by them.


Exactly, it feels so much better having 200+ apm than 20.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
March 23 2013 19:33 GMT
#255
I'm actually fine with APM being a totally random number, maybe this will teach people to focus on actually playing the game proper.
HSAN
Profile Joined March 2013
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-23 19:43:18
March 23 2013 19:41 GMT
#256
I know I'm not a slow player by any means, but being able to hit 400 to 500 apm by simply macroing and microing at the same time without actually feeling like I'm about to break my fingers nor actually playing my heart out is kind of a hint that the apm you get to see isn't quite correct.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
March 23 2013 19:42 GMT
#257
On March 22 2013 12:33 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
just to make fun of it all:
http://i.imgur.com/7vLWdoe.png

edit: yes this is a real screenshot, I have no idea what blizz is/was doing


Teach me ur ways
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
March 23 2013 19:49 GMT
#258
On March 24 2013 04:42 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 12:33 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
just to make fun of it all:
http://i.imgur.com/7vLWdoe.png

edit: yes this is a real screenshot, I have no idea what blizz is/was doing


Teach me ur ways


He is the offspring of Jaedong + July + Losira
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
March 23 2013 19:55 GMT
#259
There are two big mysteries in the world. How can someone fail at counting actions. The other one is why subtitles for movies randomly start to go faster or slower than a movie. :D
Mahavishnu
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada396 Posts
March 23 2013 23:02 GMT
#260
On February 21 2013 00:25 HeeroFX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 00:20 Technique wrote:
It's just some fake apm to make everyone feel good.



ya when I saw my APM was 300 I felt really good, so I guess that confirms this.

i can confirm this

source: felt good
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