• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:20
CEST 19:20
KST 02:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 225ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon345.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes38Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon ZOWIE DIVINA preview Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Server Blocker
Tourneys
GSL CK #5 race war HomeStory Cup 29 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7965 users

The new in-game APM. - Page 13

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 Next All
Traceback
Profile Joined October 2010
United States469 Posts
March 22 2013 17:50 GMT
#241
How does blizzard consistently break something as simple as an APM tab...
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-23 08:24:17
March 23 2013 08:23 GMT
#242
^This.

Blizzard should really adress this as an issue. Many players took the apm number seriously to check if you were playing faster progresively with the practice.

Now is just a totally useless number.
Chicken gank op
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
March 23 2013 08:33 GMT
#243
Theres a 200% difference between my 1v1 games and my teamgames apm...

1v1 would be closing in on 300, and teamgames would barely make 100 at times....
Its not like Im slacking that hard :/
Stop procrastinating
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
March 23 2013 08:35 GMT
#244
Would be nice if we could just ask Blizzard to tell us what they did to it this time...-.-
askmc70
Profile Joined March 2012
United States722 Posts
March 23 2013 08:38 GMT
#245
apm is not even important... no reason to keep changing it
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2781 Posts
March 23 2013 08:50 GMT
#246
It's disappointing that they cannot just fix the goddamned reading to mean...actions...per....minute. The readings in game and out of game don't even match. And some actions inflate apm while other actions (camera hotkeys) don't register at all.

Didn't Blizzard mention that they were going to fix this issue?
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
arcane1129
Profile Joined January 2011
United States273 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-23 09:20:57
March 23 2013 09:20 GMT
#247
Whoever coded apm at blizzard I imagine just sat on his keyboard and whatever ended up on the screen went into the game

then got a promotion
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 23 2013 09:29 GMT
#248
Perhaps they are doing it on purpose. It reminds me of a joke:

A man goes to the rabbi and complains, "Life is unbearable. There are nine of us living in one room. What can I do?"

The rabbi answers, "Take your goat into the room with you." The man in incredulous, but the rabbi insists. "Do as I say and come back in a week."

A week later the man comes back looking more distraught than before. "We cannot stand it," he tells the rabbi. "The goat is filthy." The rabbi then tells him, "Then go get yourself a dog and come back in a week." The man is shocked but does as the Rabbi says.

Another week later the man comes back looking terrible. "It's horrible. It's 9 of us in a room, the goat has made everything filthy and the dog barks all day." The rabbi says: "There's only one thing to do. Get yourself a pig! Then come back in a week." The man cannot believe his ears but once again does what the rabbi tells him.

A week goes past and the man slouches into the rabbi's quarters. "I cannot stand it. It's 9 of us in a room, the goat is a dirty animal, the dog barks even more and the pig sleeps on the couch." The rabbi looks at the man, ponders for a bit and then answers, "Go home and let the goat, the dog and the pig out. And come back in a week."

A radiant man returns to the rabbi a week later, exclaiming, "Life is beautiful. We enjoy every minute of it now that there's no goat, no barking and no pig -- only the nine of us."

I'd say we'll also take whichever half-decent measure of APM by the time Blizz is done with us...
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Chrono000
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Korea (South)358 Posts
March 23 2013 16:54 GMT
#249
On March 23 2013 18:29 Ghanburighan wrote:
Perhaps they are doing it on purpose. It reminds me of a joke:

A man goes to the rabbi and complains, "Life is unbearable. There are nine of us living in one room. What can I do?"

The rabbi answers, "Take your goat into the room with you." The man in incredulous, but the rabbi insists. "Do as I say and come back in a week."

A week later the man comes back looking more distraught than before. "We cannot stand it," he tells the rabbi. "The goat is filthy." The rabbi then tells him, "Then go get yourself a dog and come back in a week." The man is shocked but does as the Rabbi says.

Another week later the man comes back looking terrible. "It's horrible. It's 9 of us in a room, the goat has made everything filthy and the dog barks all day." The rabbi says: "There's only one thing to do. Get yourself a pig! Then come back in a week." The man cannot believe his ears but once again does what the rabbi tells him.

A week goes past and the man slouches into the rabbi's quarters. "I cannot stand it. It's 9 of us in a room, the goat is a dirty animal, the dog barks even more and the pig sleeps on the couch." The rabbi looks at the man, ponders for a bit and then answers, "Go home and let the goat, the dog and the pig out. And come back in a week."

A radiant man returns to the rabbi a week later, exclaiming, "Life is beautiful. We enjoy every minute of it now that there's no goat, no barking and no pig -- only the nine of us."

I'd say we'll also take whichever half-decent measure of APM by the time Blizz is done with us...




HAHAHA! ive heard this one before but it has been a long time since ive heard it again.

This joke applies to the whole game... They know the basic problems with it already and they are taking there sweet as time to deliver so they can control our exceptions of the game. For example patching things now that should of been worked on ages ago like the hydra (which is still broken and everyone knows it).

Whatever they update is just a big relief to us because it is so painful to live with the current state of the game that anything they do is 'awesome'.
o29
Profile Joined November 2010
United States220 Posts
March 23 2013 17:03 GMT
#250
On March 24 2013 01:54 Chrono000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2013 18:29 Ghanburighan wrote:
Perhaps they are doing it on purpose. It reminds me of a joke:

A man goes to the rabbi and complains, "Life is unbearable. There are nine of us living in one room. What can I do?"

The rabbi answers, "Take your goat into the room with you." The man in incredulous, but the rabbi insists. "Do as I say and come back in a week."

A week later the man comes back looking more distraught than before. "We cannot stand it," he tells the rabbi. "The goat is filthy." The rabbi then tells him, "Then go get yourself a dog and come back in a week." The man is shocked but does as the Rabbi says.

Another week later the man comes back looking terrible. "It's horrible. It's 9 of us in a room, the goat has made everything filthy and the dog barks all day." The rabbi says: "There's only one thing to do. Get yourself a pig! Then come back in a week." The man cannot believe his ears but once again does what the rabbi tells him.

A week goes past and the man slouches into the rabbi's quarters. "I cannot stand it. It's 9 of us in a room, the goat is a dirty animal, the dog barks even more and the pig sleeps on the couch." The rabbi looks at the man, ponders for a bit and then answers, "Go home and let the goat, the dog and the pig out. And come back in a week."

A radiant man returns to the rabbi a week later, exclaiming, "Life is beautiful. We enjoy every minute of it now that there's no goat, no barking and no pig -- only the nine of us."

I'd say we'll also take whichever half-decent measure of APM by the time Blizz is done with us...




HAHAHA! ive heard this one before but it has been a long time since ive heard it again.

This joke applies to the whole game... They know the basic problems with it already and they are taking there sweet as time to deliver so they can control our exceptions of the game. For example patching things now that should of been worked on ages ago like the hydra (which is still broken and everyone knows it).

Whatever they update is just a big relief to us because it is so painful to live with the current state of the game that anything they do is 'awesome'.


I see what you're saying and to some extent agree, but you're being quite hyperbolic. If it's "so painful to live with the current state of the game" then why are you playing and/or watching SC2? If you're miserable with how the game is now, maybe it's just time to find a new game.
TheVoicedElk
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom28 Posts
March 23 2013 17:08 GMT
#251
If you reaally cared about what your apm was exactly then you'd use something like sc2 gears, so I don't see why this is an issue as you can still use it to see if your playing faster or slower than you usually would
Top 4 Control
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
March 23 2013 19:26 GMT
#252
On March 23 2013 02:50 Traceback wrote:
How does blizzard consistently break something as simple as an APM tab...

I don't think it's simple, there must be lots of calculations since APM rapidly change during 1 minute mark. They should invent APS instead.
Msr
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)495 Posts
March 23 2013 19:29 GMT
#253
Their old apm system understated your apm by like 40%, blizzard wont fix this because its smart on their part to have peoples apm overstated. I imagine this was intentional by them.
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
March 23 2013 19:33 GMT
#254
On March 24 2013 04:29 Msr wrote:
Their old apm system understated your apm by like 40%, blizzard wont fix this because its smart on their part to have peoples apm overstated. I imagine this was intentional by them.


Exactly, it feels so much better having 200+ apm than 20.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
March 23 2013 19:33 GMT
#255
I'm actually fine with APM being a totally random number, maybe this will teach people to focus on actually playing the game proper.
HSAN
Profile Joined March 2013
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-23 19:43:18
March 23 2013 19:41 GMT
#256
I know I'm not a slow player by any means, but being able to hit 400 to 500 apm by simply macroing and microing at the same time without actually feeling like I'm about to break my fingers nor actually playing my heart out is kind of a hint that the apm you get to see isn't quite correct.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
March 23 2013 19:42 GMT
#257
On March 22 2013 12:33 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
just to make fun of it all:
http://i.imgur.com/7vLWdoe.png

edit: yes this is a real screenshot, I have no idea what blizz is/was doing


Teach me ur ways
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
March 23 2013 19:49 GMT
#258
On March 24 2013 04:42 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 12:33 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
just to make fun of it all:
http://i.imgur.com/7vLWdoe.png

edit: yes this is a real screenshot, I have no idea what blizz is/was doing


Teach me ur ways


He is the offspring of Jaedong + July + Losira
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
March 23 2013 19:55 GMT
#259
There are two big mysteries in the world. How can someone fail at counting actions. The other one is why subtitles for movies randomly start to go faster or slower than a movie. :D
Mahavishnu
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada396 Posts
March 23 2013 23:02 GMT
#260
On February 21 2013 00:25 HeeroFX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 00:20 Technique wrote:
It's just some fake apm to make everyone feel good.



ya when I saw my APM was 300 I felt really good, so I guess that confirms this.

i can confirm this

source: felt good
everything is gravity
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 40m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
BRAT_OK 93
Codebar 72
RushiSC 49
StarCraft: Brood War
Soulkey 313
ggaemo 243
Hyuk 238
Mong 118
soO 43
Dewaltoss 40
910 26
scan(afreeca) 26
Shine 26
Free 25
[ Show more ]
NaDa 22
Bale 19
HiyA 14
Yoon 10
Dota 2
Gorgc4460
qojqva2302
420jenkins268
Counter-Strike
fl0m1383
x6flipin555
byalli488
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor229
Other Games
FrodaN1248
ceh9572
B2W.Neo436
Grubby220
ToD210
Hui .197
ArmadaUGS101
C9.Mang091
Trikslyr59
MindelVK14
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick36884
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 50
• mYiSmile149
• Reevou 11
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis4113
Other Games
• imaqtpie320
• WagamamaTV225
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
6h 40m
WardiTV Weekly
17h 40m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 6h
The PondCast
1d 16h
Replay Cast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
4 days
Serral vs Bunny
ByuN vs GgMaChine
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
5 days
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.