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simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
February 11 2013 03:39 GMT
#281
well said Champi
byah!
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
February 11 2013 03:44 GMT
#282
I want my money back for all those original xbox games I payed for to play on xbox live. They took the servers down and I can no longer play them. That's bullshit, give me my money back.

That's the logic you people are using. It's horrible. You bought a second copy knowing they were probably going to implement global play. I have quite a few friends who have multiple copies. Not one of them thinks they should be reimbursed any money.
eScaper-tsunami
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada313 Posts
February 11 2013 03:53 GMT
#283
On February 11 2013 12:44 Infernal_dream wrote:
I want my money back for all those original xbox games I payed for to play on xbox live. They took the servers down and I can no longer play them. That's bullshit, give me my money back.

That's the logic you people are using. It's horrible. You bought a second copy knowing they were probably going to implement global play. I have quite a few friends who have multiple copies. Not one of them thinks they should be reimbursed any money.


LOL 2 completely different situation and you need to rethink on your logic.
In your situation, everybody loses what they paid.

In this current situation, somebody (person with 2 b.net accounts with 1 sc2 in each) gains and another (person with 1 b.net account but 2 copies of sc2) loses.
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Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
February 11 2013 05:30 GMT
#284
On February 09 2013 09:43 Obikai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 09:38 Masq wrote:
On February 09 2013 06:56 shockaslim wrote:
Not the same logic at all. Regardless if it was a different region or not. I bought TWO copies, I expect to have global play on TWO copies, not ONE.


I have two copies (previously one for EU and NA) and they both have global play.

I assume you had them both under the same battlenet account? Using two separate accounts enables both with global play options..



Then you are either too ignorant to read the OP's statement in full or you are trolling .... either way you are completely exempt from the argument and i would wager about 90% of the people making smug comments in here are on the same boat.

"Using two separate accounts enables both with global play options.." you are absolutely right ... now you go and find me the legal document i agreed to where Blizzard states that no more than one key can or should be bound to a single account and we wont have a leg to stand on ...... but they didn't and THAT is the point!

This ridiculous and quite frankly provocative nose rubbiing about "oh well i was smart enough to add my keys to separate accounts" that is great i am very pleased that you are not one of us that is left with half of what we paid for .... but it also questions how serious Blizzard were about not advocating smurfing because it ruins matchmaking do you not think?

Honestly i am sick of having to explain such a simple thing to people who talk like they have more than enough intelligence to grasp the concept.



Stop bitching and work on a solution.
If you already know the solution, why don't you simply make a second account and have the SC2-2 license transferred to the another account? You're making such a giant issue over nothing.

Out of all the things to nit pick and get upset about. Oh internets.
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 05:30:15
February 11 2013 05:30 GMT
#285
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shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 06:38:47
February 11 2013 06:37 GMT
#286
On February 11 2013 14:30 Inori wrote:
Figured instead of crying about it on a fansite I just open a ticket and see where it leads.

Answer:
Show nested quote +
Both your Game Licenses are still there and accessible if you log into the game with the Regional Game Client of your choice - you have not lost any progress for either the US or EU regions.

I'm sorry for any confusion caused

Regards,

Suioxga
English Customer Support Team
Blizzard Europe


/thread


Thank You. So pretty much in a nutshell, if you have an EU license and an NA license, if you log into the EU client then it activates the EU license, and if you log into the NA client it activates the NA license? Makes sense I guess.

Edit: I wonder what this means when we upgrade HotS then?
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BryanSC
Profile Joined October 2010
United States455 Posts
February 11 2013 06:42 GMT
#287
On February 11 2013 12:44 Infernal_dream wrote:
I want my money back for all those original xbox games I payed for to play on xbox live. They took the servers down and I can no longer play them. That's bullshit, give me my money back.

That's the logic you people are using. It's horrible. You bought a second copy knowing they were probably going to implement global play. I have quite a few friends who have multiple copies. Not one of them thinks they should be reimbursed any money.


I think you need to take a few minutes to rethink that scenario again.
MrSourGit
Profile Joined August 2012
England135 Posts
February 11 2013 08:24 GMT
#288
You bought it , you've used it , so , no.
Winston Churchill - ''I may be drunk, Miss , but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly'
droken
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden126 Posts
February 11 2013 08:30 GMT
#289
I fail to see how people can actually miss the point here.

People are NOT crying about global play. People are talking about Blizzard merging all their licenses into ONE – so the people that actually BOUGHT multiple copies of SC2:WoL to either have a smurf account etc LOSE the ability to play on the other accounts that they paid the full price of SC2:WoL for.

Most of the counter arguments in this thread is for "Well, you should have predicted Global Play..." but what if the point of buying n accounts was to be able to smurf? People lost money legitimately spent on SC2-licenses they no longer have access to, which is an error.

Blizzard is trying to amend this by telling you that you only need to purchase one copy of Heart of the Swarm which in my book is fine, because otherwise you would have to spent n times as much if you had n accounts.

There are several ways to fix the issue at hand, like making it possible to have n different SC2-licenses attached to the same account – but this would require you to purchase one copy of Heart of the Swarm per license. The other way would be to keep them merged into one and thus only require you to purchase one copy of HotS – because you effectively only have one license of WoL to upgrade.

I sincerely hope that people will read this post and stop bashing on people for trying to keep what they payed for.. tt

EDIT: Oh wait, if you buy a second account on the same region (say EU) as your first account do you get the account selection screen much like WoW when you log on? Because I know I've had some friends get the selection screen up when they try to log on...
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n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 09:17:34
February 11 2013 09:17 GMT
#290
On February 11 2013 14:30 Masq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 09:43 Obikai wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:38 Masq wrote:
On February 09 2013 06:56 shockaslim wrote:
Not the same logic at all. Regardless if it was a different region or not. I bought TWO copies, I expect to have global play on TWO copies, not ONE.


I have two copies (previously one for EU and NA) and they both have global play.

I assume you had them both under the same battlenet account? Using two separate accounts enables both with global play options..



Then you are either too ignorant to read the OP's statement in full or you are trolling .... either way you are completely exempt from the argument and i would wager about 90% of the people making smug comments in here are on the same boat.

"Using two separate accounts enables both with global play options.." you are absolutely right ... now you go and find me the legal document i agreed to where Blizzard states that no more than one key can or should be bound to a single account and we wont have a leg to stand on ...... but they didn't and THAT is the point!

This ridiculous and quite frankly provocative nose rubbiing about "oh well i was smart enough to add my keys to separate accounts" that is great i am very pleased that you are not one of us that is left with half of what we paid for .... but it also questions how serious Blizzard were about not advocating smurfing because it ruins matchmaking do you not think?

Honestly i am sick of having to explain such a simple thing to people who talk like they have more than enough intelligence to grasp the concept.



Stop bitching and work on a solution.
If you already know the solution, why don't you simply make a second account and have the SC2-2 license transferred to the another account? You're making such a giant issue over nothing.

Out of all the things to nit pick and get upset about. Oh internets.


No one is making a big deal out of this except the morons and trolls who have nothing to say about the topic and derailed it for 15 pages. Do you have two licenses on one account? Give your opinion. No? Get the fuck out and don't post when you can't even read the first paragraph which clearly states what this thread is about.

One in six pages someone is actually posting relevant information, you gotta search for it like gold though, because of 17 yo's getting too excited to read what a thread is about before posting.

I assume you had them both under the same battlenet account?


Was it the first sentence of the OP that made you come to that conclusion?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 11 2013 09:36 GMT
#291
On February 11 2013 15:37 shockaslim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 14:30 Inori wrote:
Figured instead of crying about it on a fansite I just open a ticket and see where it leads.

Answer:
Both your Game Licenses are still there and accessible if you log into the game with the Regional Game Client of your choice - you have not lost any progress for either the US or EU regions.

I'm sorry for any confusion caused

Regards,

Suioxga
English Customer Support Team
Blizzard Europe


/thread


Thank You. So pretty much in a nutshell, if you have an EU license and an NA license, if you log into the EU client then it activates the EU license, and if you log into the NA client it activates the NA license? Makes sense I guess.

Edit: I wonder what this means when we upgrade HotS then?


Nothing as unless you are buying 2 hots accounts shouldn't affect anything.
When I think of something else, something will go here
stingrae
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom24 Posts
February 11 2013 10:30 GMT
#292
On February 11 2013 14:30 Inori wrote:
Figured instead of crying about it on a fansite I just open a ticket and see where it leads.

Answer:
Show nested quote +
Both your Game Licenses are still there and accessible if you log into the game with the Regional Game Client of your choice - you have not lost any progress for either the US or EU regions.

I'm sorry for any confusion caused

Regards,

Suioxga
English Customer Support Team
Blizzard Europe


/thread

Your response is generic customer support, the same people who told me paladins would never be tanks in WoW. It also only deals with access questions, this is not an access question. Basically customer support answers should be taken as a pinch of salt.

Firstly I think a clear definition of the problem is necessary:
John uses 2 baskets which hold up to x paid eggs, James uses 1 basket which also holds up to x paid eggs. They both buy 2 eggs but John puts his into a second basket. The laws regarding eggs change now you no longer pay for eggs as long as you have one in your basket.
With x=4
John:> John now has 2(baskets)*4(possible eggs)= 8 eggs (2 paid for)
James:>James now has 1 basket *4 (possible eggs) (2 paid for) = 4 eggs (2 paid for)
Conclusion can only be that John's choice to use 2 baskets was lucky and he doubled his yield. James would have to buy another egg and put it in another basket to get the same yield. Both acquired the same item of y value therefore James has lost out due to the change.

Now since this doesn't transfer well for possible resolutions in the real world situation. One outcome is to make each paid account work as a separate log-in or to allow transfers of sc2 accounts to battlenet accounts. It would only be fair to ignore the problem if there had been no paid transaction as now one method of having multiple accounts is vastly superior for the same outlay of cost.

As for the 'only one hots copy needed' this defeats the global play purpose which was to have hots be global play enabled which should mean if you buy hots you can play on any region on that battlenet account that has hots. It would also be unfair to those who used a separate battlenet account for regional accounts as they would not have hots on those but they could have and should in that case should be allowed to transfer their regional accounts (but this later situation shouldn’t exist).

I think it is most likely there will not be a resolution to this issue which is unfortunate but given the time needed to create the solution (the WoW game accounts solution, which needs some work as WoW allows multiple accounts on the same region per battlenet account) I don’t think we will see this. Especially as WoL will get less players.




imPermanenCe
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 10:36:29
February 11 2013 10:36 GMT
#293
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 11 2013 19:30 stingrae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 14:30 Inori wrote:
Figured instead of crying about it on a fansite I just open a ticket and see where it leads.

Answer:
Both your Game Licenses are still there and accessible if you log into the game with the Regional Game Client of your choice - you have not lost any progress for either the US or EU regions.

I'm sorry for any confusion caused

Regards,

Suioxga
English Customer Support Team
Blizzard Europe


/thread

Your response is generic customer support, the same people who told me paladins would never be tanks in WoW. It also only deals with access questions, this is not an access question. Basically customer support answers should be taken as a pinch of salt.

Firstly I think a clear definition of the problem is necessary:
John uses 2 baskets which hold up to x paid eggs, James uses 1 basket which also holds up to x paid eggs. They both buy 2 eggs but John puts his into a second basket. The laws regarding eggs change now you no longer pay for eggs as long as you have one in your basket.
With x=4
John:> John now has 2(baskets)*4(possible eggs)= 8 eggs (2 paid for)
James:>James now has 1 basket *4 (possible eggs) (2 paid for) = 4 eggs (2 paid for)
Conclusion can only be that John's choice to use 2 baskets was lucky and he doubled his yield. James would have to buy another egg and put it in another basket to get the same yield. Both acquired the same item of y value therefore James has lost out due to the change.

Now since this doesn't transfer well for possible resolutions in the real world situation. One outcome is to make each paid account work as a separate log-in or to allow transfers of sc2 accounts to battlenet accounts. It would only be fair to ignore the problem if there had been no paid transaction as now one method of having multiple accounts is vastly superior for the same outlay of cost.

As for the 'only one hots copy needed' this defeats the global play purpose which was to have hots be global play enabled which should mean if you buy hots you can play on any region on that battlenet account that has hots. It would also be unfair to those who used a separate battlenet account for regional accounts as they would not have hots on those but they could have and should in that case should be allowed to transfer their regional accounts (but this later situation shouldn’t exist).

I think it is most likely there will not be a resolution to this issue which is unfortunate but given the time needed to create the solution (the WoW game accounts solution, which needs some work as WoW allows multiple accounts on the same region per battlenet account) I don’t think we will see this. Especially as WoL will get less players.


Conclusion: Don't put all your eggs in the same basket!
Micro at its best is like an elegant dance between two people trying to achieve a similar end.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
February 11 2013 11:12 GMT
#294
On February 11 2013 14:30 Inori wrote:
Figured instead of crying about it on a fansite I just open a ticket and see where it leads.

Answer:
Show nested quote +
Both your Game Licenses are still there and accessible if you log into the game with the Regional Game Client of your choice - you have not lost any progress for either the US or EU regions.

I'm sorry for any confusion caused

Regards,

Suioxga
English Customer Support Team
Blizzard Europe


/thread

Thank you. That answer still doesn't say whether you'll be able to log into the US region from your EU account and vice versa, though, or whether you'll just have one US and one EU account like everybody else, which is the crux of the issue here. Could you perhaps ask about a clarification for that?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 11 2013 11:38 GMT
#295
On February 11 2013 20:12 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 14:30 Inori wrote:
Figured instead of crying about it on a fansite I just open a ticket and see where it leads.

Answer:
Both your Game Licenses are still there and accessible if you log into the game with the Regional Game Client of your choice - you have not lost any progress for either the US or EU regions.

I'm sorry for any confusion caused

Regards,

Suioxga
English Customer Support Team
Blizzard Europe


/thread

Thank you. That answer still doesn't say whether you'll be able to log into the US region from your EU account and vice versa, though, or whether you'll just have one US and one EU account like everybody else, which is the crux of the issue here. Could you perhaps ask about a clarification for that?


But then what would people have to fight about for the next 30 days?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
February 11 2013 11:39 GMT
#296
If I knew Global play would've come to HotS I would've never bought the second copy.
"Having your own haters means you are famous"
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
February 11 2013 11:42 GMT
#297
On February 11 2013 20:38 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 20:12 Conti wrote:
On February 11 2013 14:30 Inori wrote:
Figured instead of crying about it on a fansite I just open a ticket and see where it leads.

Answer:
Both your Game Licenses are still there and accessible if you log into the game with the Regional Game Client of your choice - you have not lost any progress for either the US or EU regions.

I'm sorry for any confusion caused

Regards,

Suioxga
English Customer Support Team
Blizzard Europe


/thread

Thank you. That answer still doesn't say whether you'll be able to log into the US region from your EU account and vice versa, though, or whether you'll just have one US and one EU account like everybody else, which is the crux of the issue here. Could you perhaps ask about a clarification for that?


But then what would people have to fight about for the next 30 days?

Honestly, at this point I wish the mods would lock this thread until Global Play officially comes out. People have pointed out the issues often enough, and other people have ignored it and will keep ignoring it and go "You want a free HotS account how stupid you are herp derp!" for all eternity, it seems like.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 11 2013 11:46 GMT
#298
On February 11 2013 20:39 nucLeaRTV wrote:
If I knew Global play would've come to HotS I would've never bought the second copy.

If I knew Strider was only 4 hours long back in the 80s, I wouldn't have bought the game. Thus is the hard life of a gamer.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
KirA_TheGreaT
Profile Joined April 2011
France204 Posts
February 11 2013 18:53 GMT
#299
People are NOT crying about global play. People are talking about Blizzard merging all their licenses into ONE – so the people that actually BOUGHT multiple copies of SC2:WoL to either have a smurf account etc LOSE the ability to play on the other accounts that they paid the full price of SC2:WoL for.


I don't understand, i have multiple copies and i can play on all of them.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8268 Posts
February 11 2013 19:01 GMT
#300
Ok, let me see if I can get this right: If you log into hots with your EU client, you'll be able to play on that account and use whatever region you want, but to access your other game you have to log into an NA client?

I have 3 games right now, 1 on my main bnet account and another 2 (for KR and US) on a smurf account. Does this mean I still have to have 3 different games installed on my computer? Or do I simply lose one of my games? (Or, based on the number of pages on this thread, does no one know?)
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