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Kakaru2
Profile Joined March 2011
198 Posts
February 11 2013 19:07 GMT
#301
Right now the 2 copies on the smurf account will become one.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 19:11:38
February 11 2013 19:10 GMT
#302
On February 12 2013 04:07 Kakaru2 wrote:
Right now the 2 copies on the smurf account will become one.


Then whats the point of the "you only have to buy one copy of hots"? Why would you buy more than one expansion for only one game? -.-

That would be like owning 3 cars, have 2 taken away, and for someone to come "But now you only have to buy gas for one! Aint this great?"
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 19:32:59
February 11 2013 19:30 GMT
#303
On February 12 2013 04:10 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 04:07 Kakaru2 wrote:
Right now the 2 copies on the smurf account will become one.


Then whats the point of the "you only have to buy one copy of hots"? Why would you buy more than one expansion for only one game? -.-

That would be like owning 3 cars, have 2 taken away, and for someone to come "But now you only have to buy gas for one! Aint this great?"

People are upset because they purchased two (or more) cars for their 3 car garage. Now Blizzard is saying that everyone with at least 1 car will get a full garage of American, European and Asian cars to chose from. People who purchased more than one car and kept them in the same garage are upset because they received fewer free cars than people with only one car per garage.

Also, you cars in the same garage only need one set of registration for future use. Somehow this is also labeled as a bad thing.

Nothing is being taken away.


*edit: I'm still not changing my stance that it would be nice of Blizzard to provide CD keys to people with multiple copies on the same account. I just think all the crying is a bit sad.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8166 Posts
February 11 2013 19:37 GMT
#304
On February 12 2013 04:30 DusTerr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 04:10 Excludos wrote:
On February 12 2013 04:07 Kakaru2 wrote:
Right now the 2 copies on the smurf account will become one.


Then whats the point of the "you only have to buy one copy of hots"? Why would you buy more than one expansion for only one game? -.-

That would be like owning 3 cars, have 2 taken away, and for someone to come "But now you only have to buy gas for one! Aint this great?"

People are upset because they purchased two (or more) cars for their 3 car garage. Now Blizzard is saying that everyone with at least 1 car will get a full garage of American, European and Asian cars to chose from. People who purchased more than one car and kept them in the same garage are upset because they received fewer free cars than people with only one car per garage.

Also, you cars in the same garage only need one set of registration for future use. Somehow this is also labeled as a bad thing.

Nothing is being taken away.


*edit: I'm still not changing my stance that it would be nice of Blizzard to provide CD keys to people with multiple copies on the same account. I just think all the crying is a bit sad.


I know I started with the analogy, but that made me incredibly confused

What you're saying is that people are angry because now everyone can play global, while before you had to buy more copies? I don't think thats it at all considering we're discussing more copies of the games on different/the same account and the consequences of it.

Tbh the best way for blizz to solve any of this would be to simply let us choose which account to login to when we fire up the game. I don't see any reason why we should need to have our copies distributed over several accounts and regions, especially after global play in hots.
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 20:35:26
February 11 2013 20:31 GMT
#305
On February 12 2013 04:37 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 04:30 DusTerr wrote:
On February 12 2013 04:10 Excludos wrote:
On February 12 2013 04:07 Kakaru2 wrote:
Right now the 2 copies on the smurf account will become one.


Then whats the point of the "you only have to buy one copy of hots"? Why would you buy more than one expansion for only one game? -.-

That would be like owning 3 cars, have 2 taken away, and for someone to come "But now you only have to buy gas for one! Aint this great?"

People are upset because they purchased two (or more) cars for their 3 car garage. Now Blizzard is saying that everyone with at least 1 car will get a full garage of American, European and Asian cars to chose from. People who purchased more than one car and kept them in the same garage are upset because they received fewer free cars than people with only one car per garage.

Also, you cars in the same garage only need one set of registration for future use. Somehow this is also labeled as a bad thing.

Nothing is being taken away.


*edit: I'm still not changing my stance that it would be nice of Blizzard to provide CD keys to people with multiple copies on the same account. I just think all the crying is a bit sad.


I know I started with the analogy, but that made me incredibly confused

What you're saying is that people are angry because now everyone can play global, while before you had to buy more copies? I don't think thats it at all considering we're discussing more copies of the games on different/the same account and the consequences of it.

Tbh the best way for blizz to solve any of this would be to simply let us choose which account to login to when we fire up the game. I don't see any reason why we should need to have our copies distributed over several accounts and regions, especially after global play in hots.


People who paid for multiple regions are upset that they are not benefiting from global play as much as others.

You mean something other than this?
"Players can freely switch between regions via the StarCraft II login screen. Each region will have separate profile data, meaning that progress and friends lists will not carry over from region to region. Players using Global Play will be subject to the in-game policies in their selected play region."
(that's from the FAQ)
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8166 Posts
February 11 2013 20:35 GMT
#306
On February 12 2013 05:31 DusTerr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 04:37 Excludos wrote:
On February 12 2013 04:30 DusTerr wrote:
On February 12 2013 04:10 Excludos wrote:
On February 12 2013 04:07 Kakaru2 wrote:
Right now the 2 copies on the smurf account will become one.


Then whats the point of the "you only have to buy one copy of hots"? Why would you buy more than one expansion for only one game? -.-

That would be like owning 3 cars, have 2 taken away, and for someone to come "But now you only have to buy gas for one! Aint this great?"

People are upset because they purchased two (or more) cars for their 3 car garage. Now Blizzard is saying that everyone with at least 1 car will get a full garage of American, European and Asian cars to chose from. People who purchased more than one car and kept them in the same garage are upset because they received fewer free cars than people with only one car per garage.

Also, you cars in the same garage only need one set of registration for future use. Somehow this is also labeled as a bad thing.

Nothing is being taken away.


*edit: I'm still not changing my stance that it would be nice of Blizzard to provide CD keys to people with multiple copies on the same account. I just think all the crying is a bit sad.


I know I started with the analogy, but that made me incredibly confused

What you're saying is that people are angry because now everyone can play global, while before you had to buy more copies? I don't think thats it at all considering we're discussing more copies of the games on different/the same account and the consequences of it.

Tbh the best way for blizz to solve any of this would be to simply let us choose which account to login to when we fire up the game. I don't see any reason why we should need to have our copies distributed over several accounts and regions, especially after global play in hots.

Something other than this?
Show nested quote +
Players can freely switch between regions via the StarCraft II login screen. Each region will have separate profile data, meaning that progress and friends lists will not carry over from region to region. Players using Global Play will be subject to the in-game policies in their selected play region.
(that's from the FAQ)


No, that just means you get seperate accounts for each region. it does not mean you can get to choose which client you want to play on in ONE region providing you have more than one copy of the game.
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
February 11 2013 20:53 GMT
#307
I agree 100% on this matter. Blizzard is being unreasonable.
Not to mention I now only own 1 copy of WOL although i purchased 3 copies, but i also can not buy HOTS in US dollar although i am in United states just because i registered in Singapore. This is nothing but silly and unfair.
kuroshiro
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom378 Posts
February 11 2013 21:05 GMT
#308
Am I missing something?
Can you not sell the extra copy you bought to someone else? That means it has the same monetary value as a single copy and that means that nobody owes you anything.
I am you, and you are me.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8166 Posts
February 11 2013 21:06 GMT
#309
On February 12 2013 06:05 kuroshiro wrote:
Am I missing something?
Can you not sell the extra copy you bought to someone else? That means it has the same monetary value as a single copy and that means that nobody owes you anything.


You do not have the option of changing a client of sc2 to another account, and selling accounts is illegal atm. So no, you can not sell your excess sc2 games.
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 21:15:40
February 11 2013 21:15 GMT
#310
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number01
Profile Joined December 2012
203 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 21:19:14
February 11 2013 21:18 GMT
#311
On January 27 2013 06:50 Lonyo wrote:
With Global Play, those with 2 or more copies of SC2 on one account, for multiple regions, will have bought multiple copies of SC2 for no eventual reason. The money paid for those additional copies will be meaningless.

Should Blizzard be nice and do something like give free HotS to people who now have multiple copies of SC2 that they were made to buy because of the lack of Global Play? Or is it just a case of screw the customers and they shouldn't get anything?

https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/starcraft-ii-global-play-faq

Basically we paid twice for WoL in order to get something that is now a part of the base WoL package, so IMO we should get back that money in some fashion. Getting a free copy of HotS seems reasonable, since it was Blizzard being bad at making a game that caused the whole issue in the first place.

Clarification:

Based on current understanding, those with 1 copy of SC2 on an account will be able to play on any region and have one "character" per region.
Those with multiple copies of SC2 on one account with be able to play on any region, and also only one one "character" per region.

Basically you paid for 2 copies of SC2, and they are taking one away, based on current understanding oh how it works.


Blizzard never forced anyone to buy extra copies of anything. They are not responsible for it.

As a courtesy (even though i think they are not required to do anything about this issue), they might give you something in return but i doubt it.
Idra is the reason I play SC
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8166 Posts
February 11 2013 21:22 GMT
#312
On February 12 2013 06:15 Inori wrote:
Update on my support ticket:

Question:
Show nested quote +
I just want to clarify that my question isn't whether I'll be able to connect to US and EU from now on, as that's the default behaviour, even for people with 1 license, question is whether I'll be able to use both my licenses separately.

So I should have:
EU & NA access for EU license (retail purchase).
and then separately
EU & NA access for NA license (digital purchase).


Answer:
Show nested quote +

To clarify, you can use both of your licences seperately.

To access the US licence you need a US region game client
To access the EU licence, you need an EU region game client.

Both of these can be run seperately at this time.


Ok, this is actually what I thought. So I will still need 3 separate games installed on my computer, but at least I'll be able to play on 3 separate accounts.

So here's my follow up questions. Since theres talk about "only needing one hots for each account", does that mean its now a lot better to keep all 3 games on the same account instead of separate accounts?
number01
Profile Joined December 2012
203 Posts
February 11 2013 21:25 GMT
#313
On February 12 2013 06:22 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 06:15 Inori wrote:
Update on my support ticket:

Question:
I just want to clarify that my question isn't whether I'll be able to connect to US and EU from now on, as that's the default behaviour, even for people with 1 license, question is whether I'll be able to use both my licenses separately.

So I should have:
EU & NA access for EU license (retail purchase).
and then separately
EU & NA access for NA license (digital purchase).


Answer:

To clarify, you can use both of your licences seperately.

To access the US licence you need a US region game client
To access the EU licence, you need an EU region game client.

Both of these can be run seperately at this time.


Ok, this is actually what I thought. So I will still need 3 separate games installed on my computer, but at least I'll be able to play on 3 separate accounts.

So here's my follow up questions. Since theres talk about "only needing one hots for each account", does that mean its now a lot better to keep all 3 games on the same account instead of separate accounts?


BINGO!!! we have a winner!!!


Idra is the reason I play SC
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 21:33:05
February 11 2013 21:28 GMT
#314
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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 21:36:14
February 11 2013 21:34 GMT
#315
we all knew we were getting gypped with 1 name per account, knowing that people bought multiple copies anyways, knowing they would need to buy hots per wol account
now they say they want free/discounted hots because of that?
?????

i too wanted a smurf account but i wasnt going to pay them a fucking cent for it.
luckily i got one for free via a friend who doesnt play anymore.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 11 2013 21:35 GMT
#316
On February 12 2013 06:28 Inori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 06:22 Excludos wrote:

So here's my follow up questions. Since theres talk about "only needing one hots for each account", does that mean its now a lot better to keep all 3 games on the same account instead of separate accounts?

That's what I think.

Where are all the smart-asses that have foresaw global play and bought licenses on separate accounts now? :D


As long as they can you different “names” or accounts in each region, does it really matter? I mean, then Blizzard just said “Hey, now with Global Play, we made it so you don’t need remember 5 passwords. Now you can have all your accounts under one master account.”

I am going to have to see this in action, but merging the account system and just giving people the option to login-in under different profiles sounds way easier for the user.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
February 11 2013 21:38 GMT
#317
that's 99% not how it's gonna work - the same way you bought an EU license and an NA license for the same account, you will also have to (I assume) buy an EU hots to upgrade your EU wol and a NA hots to upgrade your NA wol.

It would make NO sense for them to let you upgrade 2 keys with one purchase of hots. They have great PR and undoubtedly they'll help people in this position, but I highly doubt they'd do it at the direct cost of their sales.
Pinski
Profile Joined September 2010
United States126 Posts
February 11 2013 21:56 GMT
#318
On February 12 2013 06:38 n0ise wrote:
that's 99% not how it's gonna work - the same way you bought an EU license and an NA license for the same account, you will also have to (I assume) buy an EU hots to upgrade your EU wol and a NA hots to upgrade your NA wol.

It would make NO sense for them to let you upgrade 2 keys with one purchase of hots. They have great PR and undoubtedly they'll help people in this position, but I highly doubt they'd do it at the direct cost of their sales.


What are you even talking about? You can play SC2:WoL, RIGHT NOW, on EU, NA, SEA, or TW/KR with ANY license. You will only need to buy a SC:HotS to be able to play on ANY server. The problem comes in when people bought multiple region licenses, and stuck them all onto 1 account. In which case, yes we get screwed. But, whatever.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 22:03:06
February 11 2013 22:02 GMT
#319
On February 12 2013 06:56 Pinski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 06:38 n0ise wrote:
that's 99% not how it's gonna work - the same way you bought an EU license and an NA license for the same account, you will also have to (I assume) buy an EU hots to upgrade your EU wol and a NA hots to upgrade your NA wol.

It would make NO sense for them to let you upgrade 2 keys with one purchase of hots. They have great PR and undoubtedly they'll help people in this position, but I highly doubt they'd do it at the direct cost of their sales.


What are you even talking about? You can play SC2:WoL, RIGHT NOW, on EU, NA, SEA, or TW/KR with ANY license. You will only need to buy a SC:HotS to be able to play on ANY server. The problem comes in when people bought multiple region licenses, and stuck them all onto 1 account. In which case, yes we get screwed. But, whatever.


Read like 8 posts above. That isn't the case at all any more.
Kakaru2
Profile Joined March 2011
198 Posts
February 11 2013 22:15 GMT
#320
Well, something is wrong with the Blizzard answer.
Eu install for SC2.

When I connect to EU server I play my EU profile.
When I connect to US Server I play my old US profile, I don't get the prompt to create a new US char/name and start from 0.

So basically, what Blizzard support told you was a lie.

Anyone else can confirm it?
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