EPTI am sorry to see such a tenured team be forced out due to financial or sponsor related reasons, but failing to pay is failing to pay. I don't think we have lost a pillar of SC2 though.
mTw bankrupt, unable to pay players, intends to fold - Pag…
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ThomasjServo
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I am sorry to see such a tenured team be forced out due to financial or sponsor related reasons, but failing to pay is failing to pay. I don't think we have lost a pillar of SC2 though. | ||
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Manijak
Slovenia112 Posts
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Evangelist
1246 Posts
On January 20 2013 03:16 SupLilSon wrote: I'm willing to bet that the SC2 hype train giving out waaay faster than most people ever expected a year ago has a lot to do with the condition of the scene we see now. I'm sure many of these organizations projected that SC2 would still be growing at this point, not dying.. ;( It's got nothing to do with SC2. Some of these organisations are just folding because they're either being crippled by the competition (EG, TL) or just aren't able to compete in monetary terms with the better funded teams. What we're seeing here, sadly, is natural selection at work. While it would be difficult to suggest any esports team is in rude health at the moment regardless of what game they are playing, there are a fair few that are comfortable right now. I'd say this has more to do with the collapse of 1.6 tbh. | ||
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Dekker
Germany169 Posts
So sad to see such an oldschool team die =/ | ||
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a slow decay
150 Posts
I'm eager to see what will happen with synderen and his plans for a new team however. | ||
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mikkmagro
Malta1513 Posts
On January 20 2013 07:18 SupLilSon wrote: I realize that but look at the direction they were trying to take before going under. They contracted SuperNova, who at the time was a Code S contender and was looking like one of the more stable Korean Terrans. Acquiring SuperNova was exactly the type of investment that was cited in the article. A team going beyond it's means for an investment they can only hope will pay for itself in the future. At the time SuperNova was a great choice because it seemed like he would stick around Code S for a long time but he ended up dropping out in no time. SC2 was supposed to be the next big thing in Esports and it didnt pan out that way at all. doesn't really apply in this situation, because it's not like mTw went all out on SC2. They invested more money in LoL, Dota 2 and all iterations of Counter-Strike. The fact is, mTw would be bankrupt even if they never had an SC2 team, and focused all their money on LoL. | ||
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SinCitta
Germany2127 Posts
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howLiN
Portugal1676 Posts
On January 20 2013 07:18 SupLilSon wrote: I realize that but look at the direction they were trying to take before going under. They contracted SuperNova, who at the time was a Code S contender and was looking like one of the more stable Korean Terrans. Acquiring SuperNova was exactly the type of investment that was cited in the article. A team going beyond it's means for an investment they can only hope will pay for itself in the future. At the time SuperNova was a great choice because it seemed like he would stick around Code S for a long time but he ended up dropping out in no time. SC2 was supposed to be the next big thing in Esports and it didnt pan out that way at all. The expectations for SC2 and your vitriol over SC2 have nothing to do with a multigaming organization shutting down because they couldn't play his players. They had a LoL team as well, and I heard LoL is pretty big. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On January 20 2013 03:03 TsGBruzze wrote: not more drama.... Drama? No, just financial reality. Cold, unforgiving, objective financial reality. | ||
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snively
United States1159 Posts
i feel bad. is this why dimaga got out? | ||
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Teodice
Sweden641 Posts
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RayBeans
Germany331 Posts
I wasn't really into esports before the release of sc2, but even i knew about mtw (and other clans/teams back in the cs 1.6 days).I am really curious if we will ever see details on how the financial problems of own3d affected the financial situation of mtw. As dimaga suspects in his statement in the article, own3d probably never paid mtw (and/or dimaga directly) - and if you make a calculation with stream incomes and you don't get any money for several months it is obvious that you won't be able to pay your own bills (= player salaries and other stuff). It is probably only part of the problem but it probably plays/played a role. Did all mtw teams/players use own3d? | ||
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SXGCoil
United States341 Posts
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aka_star
United Kingdom1546 Posts
On January 20 2013 03:03 TsGBruzze wrote: not more drama.... its not really more 'drama' per-say but more like another layer of the onion being peeled away on the existing state of the SC2 scene. Money has for some time being drying up in industry and most visible in 2012 with the whole sky is falling drama. This is really a continuation from the drop in player base and the tightening of the stream and ad revenue. The bust of the boom as it were. No doubt HotS will create another mini boom so there will be something worth sticking around for but perhaps the main over arching issue that I can see is that blizzard has little incentive to commit a team of developers to sc2 on a daily basis because their goal is sales and not player numbers and this is killing off the community. | ||
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mikkmagro
Malta1513 Posts
On January 20 2013 08:06 RayBeans wrote: So sad to see mtw go I wasn't really into esports before the release of sc2, but even i knew about mtw (and other clans/teams back in the cs 1.6 days).I am really curious if we will ever see details on how the financial problems of own3d affected the financial situation of mtw. As dimaga suspects in his statement in the article, own3d probably never paid mtw (and/or dimaga directly) - and if you make a calculation with stream incomes and you don't get any money for several months it is obvious that you won't be able to pay your own bills (= player salaries and other stuff). It is probably only part of the problem but it probably plays/played a role. Did all mtw teams/players use own3d? Own3d was the official partner for mtw.tv, so I guess so. They also lost their main sponsor (Sennheiser) in September, they got XMG instead, but apparently the deal fell through or something. Their only sponsor was EIZO, which was not financing the team, but supplying monitors. | ||
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United States239 Posts
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Witten
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