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shiroiusagi
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
SoCal, USA3955 Posts
January 19 2013 18:28 GMT
#21
Oh dear.
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Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 18:32:42
January 19 2013 18:30 GMT
#22
On January 20 2013 03:17 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 03:13 Doso wrote:
I dislike the topic "mTw Not Paying Players". Just because cadred is saying so, doesn't make it a fact.

You might want to actually read the article cause the players themselves say it, not just cadred.


I've seen respectable eSports pages quoting players about not getting their money. In the end it turned out they never even signed a contract because they never agreed on terms. This shit happens all the time. So forgive me for not taking everything that is "posted somewhere" as granted. Especially if it's about one of the most respectable eSports organisations ever.

Still mTw will be missed, if they have to close. I've had the pleasure of working with many mTw players and managers of the years and they all seemed to be honest and invested into the whole eSports idea.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
January 19 2013 18:31 GMT
#23
On January 20 2013 03:28 shiroiusagi wrote:
Oh dear.

OH DEAR YOUR ICON :3
The universe created an audience for itself.
duckii
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1017 Posts
January 19 2013 18:41 GMT
#24
When I was 14 (12y ago) mTw was the clan/team where I wanted to play. It would make me sad to see them gone.
DonGrisu
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria697 Posts
January 19 2013 18:42 GMT
#25
Wow... Never Think this about mTw...
Fnatic 4 Ever...!!
zidaneshead
Profile Joined November 2010
245 Posts
January 19 2013 18:45 GMT
#26
A lot of people that read this aren't going to realize just how long mTw has been around, so sad...
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 19 2013 18:48 GMT
#27
Poor DIMAGA. Neither mTw paid him at the end nor own3d.
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Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
January 19 2013 18:48 GMT
#28
I had been following mTw since Warcraft III era to CS 1.6 Sad for them
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
January 19 2013 18:51 GMT
#29
So many teams or tournaments either don't pay or pay extremely late.

Players shouldn't be working for free like that. Why don't they start putting clauses in their contracts like "If payment is late more than 30 days, player is released from contract" and just leave these teams once they're more than a month late so they don't rack up a year of unpaid work?
Dunmer
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom568 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 18:52:28
January 19 2013 18:51 GMT
#30
This is the natural order of competition, the thrash teams/organisations will falter away while the successful continue to be successful giving us stable "e-sports", mTw seem to be heading into disbanding with this news and the lack of a Sc2 scene. I think they just have LoL now?
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asaed
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1412 Posts
January 19 2013 18:53 GMT
#31
This is so sad!!
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
January 19 2013 18:58 GMT
#32
On January 20 2013 03:51 Dunmer wrote:
This is the natural order of competition, the thrash teams/organisations will falter away while the successful continue to be successful giving us stable "e-sports", mTw seem to be heading into disbanding with this news and the lack of a Sc2 scene. I think they just have LoL now?


but mTw is a known team so thats a bigger thing then a upcoming trahsteam
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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 19:01:47
January 19 2013 19:01 GMT
#33
playing vs mTw CS squad next sunday in ESEA, but they're now going under the name "GSS" (atleast on the site)
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
January 19 2013 19:08 GMT
#34
On January 20 2013 03:48 Boucot wrote:
Poor DIMAGA. Neither mTw paid him at the end nor own3d.


Maybe because owned isn't paying mtw, so they can't pay him ? Sad to see mtw being broke, hope they can scrap enough bits together to pay everyone atleast something.
But debts are annoying usually affects other bits of the system and spreads out in that case to the players.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 19:28:03
January 19 2013 19:26 GMT
#35
The amount of, sorry to say it, stupidity in this thread is unbelievable. Firstly, to avoid any misunderstanding, I think the title of the thread should be mTw broke or something of the sort. It sickens me to see people calling mTw a 'thrash' organisation, or a 'scam'. mTw has been one of the core organisations in eSports for as long as eSports has been in existence. They were instrumental in the development of the international, european and the german eSports scene. Show some bloody respect. This is not apeX, Absolute Legends or Virus Gaming. This is an organisation which had been making dreams come true for aspiring gamers for almost FIFTEEN YEARS.

For the 'SC2 is dying' doomsayers, please note that Counter-Strike, League of Legends and Dota players are affected equally by this.

It is very sad that the organisation's players have been left without their due monies, but I'm certain that mTw's management did their utmost to fulfill what had been promised, and they simply ran out of time, money and sponsors. I hope the owner manages to find some way to do this.
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 19:31:21
January 19 2013 19:28 GMT
#36
On January 20 2013 03:08 AicyDC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 03:03 TsGBruzze wrote:
not more drama....


I wouldn't call people's livelihoods "drama". This is a very serious matter.


Someone is quite obviously new around here.

This explains why Dimaga left :/

On January 20 2013 03:31 Mortal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 03:28 shiroiusagi wrote:
Oh dear.

OH DEAR YOUR ICON :3


Click his profile, omg the cutest things I've ever seen :3
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
January 19 2013 19:55 GMT
#37
On January 20 2013 03:30 Doso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 03:17 Assirra wrote:
On January 20 2013 03:13 Doso wrote:
I dislike the topic "mTw Not Paying Players". Just because cadred is saying so, doesn't make it a fact.

You might want to actually read the article cause the players themselves say it, not just cadred.


I've seen respectable eSports pages quoting players about not getting their money. In the end it turned out they never even signed a contract because they never agreed on terms. This shit happens all the time. So forgive me for not taking everything that is "posted somewhere" as granted. Especially if it's about one of the most respectable eSports organisations ever.

Still mTw will be missed, if they have to close. I've had the pleasure of working with many mTw players and managers of the years and they all seemed to be honest and invested into the whole eSports idea.

except these players were under contract and even talked about it in the article and about how mTw couldn't live up to the contracts. mTw screwed a lot of players over.
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kiy0
Profile Joined August 2010
Portugal593 Posts
January 19 2013 20:01 GMT
#38
http://www.joindota.com/en/news/6285-mtw-organization-shuts-down

Sadly the rumors have been confirmed. mTw is no more. Guess that clarifies why Dimaga has left.
Wisemen speak when they have something to say. Others speak when they have to say something.
Richard_Lewis
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom446 Posts
January 19 2013 20:08 GMT
#39
On January 20 2013 05:01 kiy0 wrote:
http://www.joindota.com/en/news/6285-mtw-organization-shuts-down

Sadly the rumors have been confirmed. mTw is no more. Guess that clarifies why Dimaga has left.


Those "confirmations" have come as a result of some really bad journalism on the part of GosuGamers.

They read our article and reported us as a source of saying the organisation had shut down. We didn't say that and they seem unable to recognise the distinction between that and what we actually did report.

The person who posted it on Gosugamers said he spoke private to syndereN from their DotA 2 team who confirmed it was closing, then deleted his comment and didn't take us down as the source of the story, which of course we're not.
Editor In Chief of www.cadred.org
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51494 Posts
January 19 2013 20:12 GMT
#40
Depressing to read that one of the most popular ESPORTS dynasties has come to a close.
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