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O-ops

United States4236 Posts

January 02 2013 07:06 GMT

#161

On January 01 2013 14:14 Forikorder wrote:

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On December 31 2012 15:19 Glurkenspurk wrote:

On December 31 2012 13:30 Forikorder wrote:

On December 31 2012 12:55 O-ops wrote:
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There were the OGs that used to random in the very early days of BW, but they died out.

Considering some pros now spend 10+ hours practicing there literally isn't enough time in the day to get remotely good enough with even just another race to compete at the highest level.

dude 10 hours is like taking a break, the BW teams at least practice like 16 hours a day and get one day off a month (and usually spend that day practicing anyway)

Why does the made up time that people who have never been in a Korean pro house say just get higher and higher?

I swear by the end of next year everyone will say "Oh yeah, Flash plays at least 25 hours a day."

by made up time you mean time stated by IdrA? cause thats what im basing my statements on

straight saids that they had to practice 10-12 hours minimum and most put in more then that about 19~ minutes in

i remember NesTea stating in an interview hed do 16 hour days when preparing for a big match

Not sure how that supports your argument. 10-12 might be minimum and some might do more. But you said 16 hours MINIMUM and 29 days/month. I don't doubt that some might practiced 16 hours for a couple days for a big match. But I think you exaggerated when you stated "The BW teams at least practice like 16 hours a day and get one day off a month"

i never said 16 hours a day minimum considering theres only 24 hours a day and you should aim for 8 hours of sleep forcing 16 hours of practice would be a good way to run them to the ground

i said that in BW the pros practiced like 16 hours a day not that they literally practiced 16 hours a day every day but around 16 hours

it might be a slight exaggeration to say 16 hours but id imagine that 14-15 hour days (for the top pros at least) would be considered standard

You said "dude 10 hours is like taking a break, the BW teams at least practice like 16 hours a day and get one day off a month (and usually spend that day practicing anyway)"

ya and i fail to see how anything contradicts that

You just said you based your response on a video that says teams practiced 10-12 hours minimum and somehow ramped it up into "pro teams practiced at least 16 hours/day with 1 day break," and the example you gave out is from a champion who practiced that much before BIG matches. The other poster said you exaggerated, i agree.

no i said they practiced like 16 hours a day i never said nor implied that 16 hours was the minimum amount of time they had to practice

since IdrA said most players go above and beyond the minimum its safe to say most players practiced 14-15 hours a day

Ya forgot the "at least" in there.

Not to start a flame war or anything, but if you get called out, don't drop out important words that you said when you're trying to defend yourself lol.

NarutO

Germany18839 Posts

January 02 2013 07:09 GMT

#162

If I remember correctly, KeSPa does actually allow it for Proleague? Wasn't there a sAviOr (Terran) vs GoRush (Zerg) match? sAviOr announced to play Terran beforehand and it was no problem? :o

oBlade

United States5698 Posts

January 02 2013 10:21 GMT

#163

On January 02 2013 16:06 O-ops wrote:

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On January 01 2013 14:14 Forikorder wrote:

On January 01 2013 06:07 O-ops wrote:

On December 31 2012 23:06 Forikorder wrote:

On December 31 2012 16:59 vthree wrote:

On December 31 2012 15:51 Forikorder wrote:

On December 31 2012 15:41 vthree wrote:

On December 31 2012 15:30 Forikorder wrote:

On December 31 2012 15:19 Glurkenspurk wrote:

On December 31 2012 13:30 Forikorder wrote:
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dude 10 hours is like taking a break, the BW teams at least practice like 16 hours a day and get one day off a month (and usually spend that day practicing anyway)

by made up time you mean time stated by IdrA? cause thats what im basing my statements on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLsAbIiRVOk straight saids that they had to practice 10-12 hours minimum and most put in more then that about 19~ minutes in

i remember NesTea stating in an interview hed do 16 hour days when preparing for a big match

You said "dude 10 hours is like taking a break, the BW teams at least practice like 16 hours a day and get one day off a month (and usually spend that day practicing anyway)"

ya and i fail to see how anything contradicts that

Ya forgot the "at least" in there.

Not to start a flame war or anything, but if you get called out, don't drop out important words that you said when you're trying to defend yourself lol.

He said "at least" but not in the sense of "at least 16 hours." When talking about the practice habits of teams, he was saying that they practice "like 16 hours" (the point basically being the whole day is spent on Starcraft). The "at least" comes in because he was not trying to make a universal claim, but rather to say that was true at least for KeSPA teams.

Forikorder

Canada8840 Posts

January 02 2013 14:55 GMT

#164

On January 02 2013 16:06 O-ops wrote:

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On January 01 2013 14:14 Forikorder wrote:

On January 01 2013 06:07 O-ops wrote:

On December 31 2012 23:06 Forikorder wrote:

On December 31 2012 16:59 vthree wrote:

On December 31 2012 15:51 Forikorder wrote:

On December 31 2012 15:41 vthree wrote:

On December 31 2012 15:30 Forikorder wrote:

On December 31 2012 15:19 Glurkenspurk wrote:

You said "dude 10 hours is like taking a break, the BW teams at least practice like 16 hours a day and get one day off a month (and usually spend that day practicing anyway)"

ya and i fail to see how anything contradicts that

Ya forgot the "at least" in there.

Not to start a flame war or anything, but if you get called out, don't drop out important words that you said when you're trying to defend yourself lol.

i wouldnt say the at least was an important part

The_Australian

Australia458 Posts

January 02 2013 18:58 GMT

#165

On January 02 2013 16:09 Type|NarutO wrote:
If I remember correctly, KeSPa does actually allow it for Proleague? Wasn't there a sAviOr (Terran) vs GoRush (Zerg) match? sAviOr announced to play Terran beforehand and it was no problem? :o

Yes, and he got utterly destroyed

I think the only time random/race switching can work in tournaments is early in the games lifespan, before everything is incredibly worked out. I would always put my money on the guy who doesn't switch in a match, simply because if he plays with the mindset of scouting well he will always have more experience in that situation/map/build.

Although you could win the occasional game or bo3 I don't think it would be consistent enough of a strategy to pour hundreds of hours into.

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