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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On December 28 2012 13:53 rysecake wrote: it can. it's just it appears like the developers still don't know the proper direction to go with the game (as evidenced by warhounds) Blizzard's SC2 team should be praised for the willingness to scrap a unit during a beta phase. That shows that they care about the game, not about their image as a team of Mr. Perfects. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5599 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
Despite the release date being in March, it is necessary to wait for at least one month after the expansion to allow for players and spectators to adapt to the new game. I don't agree with this. Beta has been out for a while now, and I bet that the more casual viewers will have been introduced to HotS through lots of smaller beta tournaments by March. Even in Korea, I bet GSL will be doing some more introductory stuff. | ||
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
On December 28 2012 20:26 ACrow wrote: Not too surprising to see LoL as their flagship game - it would be nice to see two OSLs next year though (no catastrophe if not, GSL is and will be SC2's premier league anyway). I don't agree with this. Beta has been out for a while now, and I bet that the more casual viewers will have been introduced to HotS through lots of smaller beta tournaments by March. Even in Korea, I bet GSL will be doing some more introductory stuff. You missed the "players" part | ||
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Aunvilgod
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Erraa93
Australia891 Posts
Lets see how the hots pro league pans out. | ||
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GunSec
1095 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
Yeah, Jangbi vs Fantasy was nice. I'm okay with letting it go now, as sad at it is. Seing sc2 proleague already feel weird enough ~~ | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
 even i liek play it sometimes, its just so boring to watch | ||
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rasers
Sweden691 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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EmailFDP
Brazil16 Posts
On December 28 2012 21:35 rasers wrote: SC2 was never alive so how can it die? lol it´s my feeling too. User was warned for this post | ||
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DreamOen
Spain1400 Posts
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Patate
Canada441 Posts
On December 28 2012 20:09 [F_]aths wrote: The game isn't even complete yet. Both SC1 and WC3 had their real take-off after the expansion. I guess we can extrapolate a bright future for SC2 with two expansions still to be released. BW took 10 months to arrive, TFT took a year. HoTS will most likely take 3 years to arrive, and LoTV one more year if we're lucky... the customer's attention lifespan is way lower than that. Blizzard thinking they can make the customer pay 3 TIMES for parts of a game are just fooling themselves. It is a 90s philosophy, and it will not work. Besides, as I said in the post earlier, Blizzard has no intention of fixing the fundamentals of the game, because it would require a whole new year of balancing, which they want to avoid. Don't get me wrong, SC2 is a good game to play, it is simply not up to the Standards of BW, and it will never be. The Dev team probably did their best but they are simply incompetent. What other reasons would you explain the launch of STARCRAFT 2 (not some indie game) WITHOUT CHATROOMS? It's really just a game made by developers of sub-par games like C&C and Dawn of War. It LOOKS like the successor of BW but the emphasis on online play are on different things, which leads me to believe the devs never watched professional BW. God some people put their heads in the sand. The evidences are piling up on the current decline of Pro SC2, yet people think that JUST LIKE BW, it will be all better later on. It should have been great from the start, with all the initial hype.. yet all the casuals have left, and don't even watch the game anymore. | ||
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
On December 28 2012 20:15 [F_]aths wrote: Blizzard's SC2 team should be praised for the willingness to scrap a unit during a beta phase. That shows that they care about the game, not about their image as a team of Mr. Perfects. Ofc they should scrap units during a beta, that doesnt really say anything about them. The fact that stuff like close positions still arent fixed, or how long it took them to fix their damn map pool shows they care way too much about their pride IMO. | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On December 28 2012 20:16 Elroi wrote: I would like to see some stats about how many fans BW had just before the end (before the hybrid bs of course). What I wonder is how big part, if any, LoL had in the killing of BW and if BW could have competed with LoL if they kept going. LoL had nothing to do with the death of BW. The match-fixing scandal and the IP lawsuits already put BW on deathrow long before LoL became popular in Korea. Don't use LoL as a scapegoat, please. | ||
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Patate
Canada441 Posts
On December 29 2012 00:23 jpak wrote: Don't use LoL as a scapegoat, please. Totally agree.. LoL is the main force that brings new viewers to E-sports. You all talk about " killing E-sports", LoL is actually the one that is making it live. | ||
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haitike
Spain2722 Posts
On December 29 2012 00:23 jpak wrote: LoL had nothing to do with the death of BW. The match-fixing scandal and the IP lawsuits already put BW on deathrow long before LoL became popular in Korea. Don't use LoL as a scapegoat, please. Agree. LoL is irrelevant to BW decline. Blizzard fucked a lot more BW with the IP lawsuits. Blizzard attacking his own games was kind of stupid, anyway. | ||
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tili
United States1332 Posts
On December 28 2012 13:10 silent_owl wrote: Well, I believe in SC2 and I believe in Blizzard. I always took Grubby's advice to heart that Blizzard is working hard on their expansions and have never failed to deliver with their subsequent follow-ups. I'm sure HotS will be better than what I already think is a good game in WoL. And there's no reason to say that LoV could not possibly turn out to be a great game. Being a Street Fighter fan, I remember when the scene declined but it's vibrant as ever again now. I think as SC fans, we just have to have faith, keep playing, and keep supporting the game we love. Fads go in and out of fashion but we'll always love this game and I'm sure another time for us will come. OSL and SC2 FIGHTING! this. Much of this semi-apocolyptic talk of decline is counterproductive because it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. If we're so negative about the future of sc2, then we have less confidence to continue loving and supporting it moving forward. Also, it's not a zero sum game. Just because other esports are growing, doesn't meant sc2 is failing. Keep faith  | ||
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tili
United States1332 Posts
On December 28 2012 16:24 Sinensis wrote: Not anyone, I assure you. Don't speak for all of us like that. I personally think HOTS is glitter on top of shit. A bandage on a quad amputation. I'm sorry... but why do you even come to a forum where 70% of ALL discussion is about a game you can "shit"? Why would you just not leave? | ||
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