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On December 22 2012 07:00 Boosebus wrote:
This is a situation that is 100% blame on Admins.
For me a game always should be a rematch if the game disconnect. ALWAYS. Even if one of the player gives the game away, cuz he was so far behind that player should need to do that ingame, in the game.
The game ain't over until it's over. 200 food vs 24 food and disconnect should still be a rematch.
And that is a rule that should be known to the players BEFORE the tournament starts.
No that would be stupid, a player could just keep hanging on the game hoping for a disconnect to happen.
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Sucks that admins couldn't handle this situation. You definitely had the game so imo they still made the right decision.
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It's pretty much a lack of clear rules or a lack of sticking to rules if they actually exist. Are the admins drunken too?
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On December 22 2012 07:00 Boosebus wrote:
This is a situation that is 100% blame on Admins.
For me a game always should be a rematch if the game disconnect. ALWAYS. Even if one of the player gives the game away, cuz he was so far behind that player should need to do that ingame, in the game.
The game ain't over until it's over. 200 food vs 24 food and disconnect should still be a rematch.
And that is a rule that should be known to the players BEFORE the tournament starts.
So would like every player to drag out the game as long as possible to increase the chance of a disconnect? Cause that would be the most intelligent strategy for every player who is losing a game with such a rule.
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this has been going on for ages, why are the admins not making these decisions. If you ask kobe bryant if he deserved the foul what do you think he is going to say. This is the reason for refs and admins to make choices so the players won't / shouldn't have to.
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XlorD had the second game in his pocket so it was the right decission.
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Good luck Xlord. Sorry you were put through unccessary drama. Hopefully we can all move and and just enjoy the games =) You played brilliantly.
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On December 22 2012 07:01 Cokefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2012 07:00 Boosebus wrote:
This is a situation that is 100% blame on Admins.
For me a game always should be a rematch if the game disconnect. ALWAYS. Even if one of the player gives the game away, cuz he was so far behind that player should need to do that ingame, in the game.
The game ain't over until it's over. 200 food vs 24 food and disconnect should still be a rematch.
And that is a rule that should be known to the players BEFORE the tournament starts.
No that would be stupid, a player could just keep hanging on the game hoping for a disconnect to happen.
And how often do disconnect happend.
So, on what preferense should the jury judge on then?
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anyone record the on air drama??
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Admins were at fault for dealing with the situation poorly.
That being said, every DC should be a re-game by default, unless one person is so far ahead that there is no question whatsoever. This is to prevent lengthy discussion and bias by whoever judges it.
Players should never be involved in the decision, because they are emotional and biased.
Next time try to remain calmer!
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no player is not going to argue they are ahead or deserve a win when its competition or money on the line.
The lack of rules and admins regarding this is the real problem but no player is going to try to just brush off a game he or she is ahead and just say "ok, i'll regame" when he thinks he can win.
You can say Stephano would do the regame if he was in Xlord's shoes but he wasn't, so we can't really say anything on that. DCs like this happen all the time; this is just another case of it. Lack of policy regarding it is the primary reason I feel.
And how often do disconnect happend.
So, on what preferense should the jury judge on then?
Disconnects happen so often at tournaments. IPL TAC3 Taeja vs. Nestea is one prime example. GSTL Finals at IPL 4. Happens at MLG and lots of other tourneys too. It's not too uncommon.
On another, no LAN pitchforks so far??
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On December 22 2012 07:04 NeutralDepot wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2012 07:00 Boosebus wrote:
This is a situation that is 100% blame on Admins.
For me a game always should be a rematch if the game disconnect. ALWAYS. Even if one of the player gives the game away, cuz he was so far behind that player should need to do that ingame, in the game.
The game ain't over until it's over. 200 food vs 24 food and disconnect should still be a rematch.
And that is a rule that should be known to the players BEFORE the tournament starts.
So would like every player to drag out the game as long as possible to increase the chance of a disconnect? Cause that would be the most intelligent strategy for every player who is losing a game with such a rule.
...Staying in the game as long as possible is most player's winning strategy currently. Leaving the game is somewhat counterproductive.
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Really amusing that in a very similar point in a certain infamous PartinG vs MKP game people were angry and wanted the freewin for PartinG.
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So fucking lame man.
They gave the great opurtinity to take 2-0 in BO5.
Stephano is such a nice guy.
But it wasent 100% win, maybe 80%
You just talking in YOUR POV what the fuck do your opponent feel?
"I had 20% winchance but i dident get the chance to take it"
Loosing withouth acctuly loosing.
Really fucking bad manner man!
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Havent watched a single minute of HSC and enjoying myself immensely.
Basically, it seems like there should be rules governing this though? Seems ridiculous that there's not.
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Do not worry Xlord you seem like a pretty manner guy who was just trying to do what was right. You were going to win that game very few people would debate that. Quite honestly the only reason that there are so many angry people right now is because it is Stephano and he has so many die-hard fans. Against most any other player this would not be such a big deal. I have to say props to Stephano though for immediately saying on Twitter that it was not your fault.
I just wish the admins had a system in place and had made the decision quickly and decisively and the random drama could have been avoided.
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On December 22 2012 07:04 NeutralDepot wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2012 07:00 Boosebus wrote:
This is a situation that is 100% blame on Admins.
For me a game always should be a rematch if the game disconnect. ALWAYS. Even if one of the player gives the game away, cuz he was so far behind that player should need to do that ingame, in the game.
The game ain't over until it's over. 200 food vs 24 food and disconnect should still be a rematch.
And that is a rule that should be known to the players BEFORE the tournament starts.
So would like every player to drag out the game as long as possible to increase the chance of a disconnect? Cause that would be the most intelligent strategy for every player who is losing a game with such a rule.
pull the cable in online cups. yolo
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I appreciate your view of the situation, but a ZvZ that close in supply is not over. You may have had a plan, but you've probably lost enough advantages in your time playing that you know that to call a game at that point is giving a massive advantage to the player receiving the win.
If you have to explain your plan for how you were going to win, you did not have the game won.
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On December 22 2012 06:35 Kenny_oro wrote:
You're not seen as bad mannered for playing a good game. The disconnect wasn't your fault.
But what's the pont of arguing with the casters which already were forced in the uncomfortable situation to make a decission.
You should've just leaned back to wait for the decission instead of arguing with TLO on stream like a madman.
If you're that confident in your skill - why not just take the 20 and extend it to the BO5?
Nobody argued about your lead in that game - But a lead doesn't mean freewin. You should know that.
100% agree. I feel you have like 0 professionalism. Yes it is probably your best result in your sc2 career but still - lost all respect for you for acting like a kid on stream (even though you were probably right).
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