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On December 22 2012 23:01 Mauldo wrote:
Wait, so Xlord shit his pants to get a default win after a disconnection? And we're somehow okay with it? What if during the GSTL drop one of the players got up and started shitting himself when they called a regame? He would have been DQ'd is what. But somehow, when it's a foreigner, we say "Oh, okay. That's fine. Stephano was the bigger man and refused to act unprofessionally, so we're going to assume that everything is okay with the situation."
No. Just because Stephano didn't stoop down to Xlord's level doesn't mean that Stephano is either okay with what happened or that what Xlord did is okay. All that means is that Stephano has a fucking 100,000 dollar contract to worry about, and Xlord had....a 2-0 over Stephano to worry about.
I'm all for Alex Garfield barring EG players from the next HSC. Whenever you have admins, but you let a three pros decide in an effort to promote fairness, but then you let one of the players pitch an epic shit fit to sway them, you don't know what you're doing. That was at least two times (not using admins, letting Xlord weigh in) where Take failed Stephano. And we're supposed to just say okay because Stephano advanced?
Please. If this happened at an MLG where Idra/Demuslim DC'd and Idra pitched a fit until he got the win from the admins these boards would call for no less than Sundance to fire whichever admin let it happen. I'm not calling for that from Take, far from it, I'm just calling for people to hold tournaments to the same level of "okay, you fucked up."
People like you is what's wrong with the internet. And killing e-sports, but that's another story.
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That game should not have been a freewin. It also sucks if it is a regame because Xlord had the advantage. It does not look like Xlord was going to commit to a direct attack right then and there and Stephano looked like he was about to start massing infestors which he had the bank to do so. Xlord did not have the ability to increase his army size just yet due to oversupply and lack of gas.
Xlord would have had 2 primary advantages. Higher worker count and just starting a new base while Stephano was 100% going to lose his. Stephano had an upgrade advantage and his army was more concentrated because Xlord had part of his army killing an expansion. If Xlord commits to battle he is also in a bad position because Stephano can flank.
I would wager Xlord had 90% chance to win the game if he made no mistakes based on the knowledge that he had.
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I see it this way
1. A shitty disconnect happened (WE WANT LAN!!!).
2. XLord reacted emotionally, which is understandable.
3. HSC did their job really poorly, and swayed to the emotion.
4. Stefano advanced anyways, and everyone involved apologized
This is hardly the worst thing to happen to esports, or to Stefano, in the last week... really worth a **** storm?
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i actually stopped watching the game just before the disc, because it was clearly over
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I am really disappointed that the game had to end like this (connection somehow broke) and I am sad aswell, since now I seem like a bad mannered player.
I just don't get why you declined a BO5 with 2:0 lead.
A.) More exposure for you.
B.) Would actually have been the mannered thing to do, as you admit yourself, games have been won from positions like this.
I am happy to see stephano making it out of the group and I would like to face him again while HSC VI and I appreciate his courage, to agree to the Win as it stands.
So you are happy because people not gonna be as mad? Or because you really believe he deserved a regame?. If the later, then poor MMA. I personally and think most of us would prefer an apology like: Sorry, I got very emotional. Not that half ass justification.
You are just breaking through in sc2 and stephano really fast agreed to accept the loss, so I think it is ok to cut you some slack. If you want to be a mannered player, manner up. Thats it, gl in the rest of the tourney.
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On December 22 2012 20:29 Meatex wrote:
people only hating on xlord cause he isn't well know
It's a little toooo obvious who the Stephano fans are...
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Xlord was clearly upset. He played better that game, he was definitely ahead. Barring any major herp-derps he was on the path of victory. BUT it was not such a big lead that it was a "free win"...
Could Xlord have handled the situation better? Definitely
Was he wrong for feeling he had a favorable enough position to have the win? not really, it's easy to pull the old sportsmanship/esports card when it's not YOUR tournament on trial
Was there such a big fire, when Stephano said Babyknight wasn't the type of player you need to practice for?
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The disconnect put everyone in a bad situation. Emotions were stirred. Admins were indecisive. Controversy ensues. Posts/tweets heard around the interwebs. Much to my dismay, this is the stuff promoters/producers have wet dreams about. Yes, folks the drama, aka the "Storyline"...
The next tournament:
"XLord vs Stephano II"
Rumble in the Jungle!
Will Xlord kick Stephanos dog? will Stephano give a shit? Tune in next week for the exciting... well you get the idea...
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I don't really care one way or another. Situation resolved well. I gained a little respect for Steph and lost some for XlorD. You come out and say your going to crush a guy, it's in bad taste to take a free win. If you really thought you were the better player, you should not have had a problem playing another game.
XlorD basically showed he's slightly more talk then action. Steph did the opposite.
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dude .. only thing is, that you should nont interfere with the guys who are makeing the decision. Keep quiet and wait for the result...
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On December 22 2012 23:01 Mauldo wrote:
Wait, so Xlord shit his pants to get a default win after a disconnection? And we're somehow okay with it? What if during the GSTL drop one of the players got up and started shitting himself when they called a regame? He would have been DQ'd is what. But somehow, when it's a foreigner, we say "Oh, okay. That's fine. Stephano was the bigger man and refused to act unprofessionally, so we're going to assume that everything is okay with the situation."
No. Just because Stephano didn't stoop down to Xlord's level doesn't mean that Stephano is either okay with what happened or that what Xlord did is okay. All that means is that Stephano has a fucking 100,000 dollar contract to worry about, and Xlord had....a 2-0 over Stephano to worry about.
I'm all for Alex Garfield barring EG players from the next HSC. Whenever you have admins, but you let a three pros decide in an effort to promote fairness, but then you let one of the players pitch an epic shit fit to sway them, you don't know what you're doing. That was at least two times (not using admins, letting Xlord weigh in) where Take failed Stephano. And we're supposed to just say okay because Stephano advanced?
Please. If this happened at an MLG where Idra/Demuslim DC'd and Idra pitched a fit until he got the win from the admins these boards would call for no less than Sundance to fire whichever admin let it happen. I'm not calling for that from Take, far from it, I'm just calling for people to hold tournaments to the same level of "okay, you fucked up."
lol @ how outraged you are. I guess forum arguments are fun huh? The fucking guy who lost cares less than you. One game in HSC VI group stage is not that important bro
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Such a fail.
Not from XlorD, Stephano or the Admins or Take for that matter.
But from the Stephano lover boiz who whine so hard. I mean cmon it was handled poorly but it was still fair wasnt it?
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On December 24 2012 05:10 derpface wrote:
Such a fail.
Not from XlorD, Stephano or the Admins or Take for that matter.
But from the Stephano lover boiz who whine so hard. I mean cmon it was handled poorly but it was still fair wasnt it?
Pretty sure no one on either side agrees a free win was fair
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On December 24 2012 05:18 Corrosive wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2012 05:10 derpface wrote:
Such a fail.
Not from XlorD, Stephano or the Admins or Take for that matter.
But from the Stephano lover boiz who whine so hard. I mean cmon it was handled poorly but it was still fair wasnt it? Pretty sure no one on either side agrees a free win was fair
It wasnt fair but instead of make alot of drama of it just make it a win for XlorD since its the most appropiate. Lets say that its 70% ok to make it a win for XlorD there. Ofcourse you would go with that since its the best solution even if its not maximum "fair" for all parts.
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On December 24 2012 05:10 derpface wrote:
Such a fail.
Not from XlorD, Stephano or the Admins or Take for that matter.
But from the Stephano lover boiz who whine so hard. I mean cmon it was handled poorly but it was still fair wasnt it?
On December 24 2012 05:26 derpface wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2012 05:18 Corrosive wrote:On December 24 2012 05:10 derpface wrote:
Such a fail.
Not from XlorD, Stephano or the Admins or Take for that matter.
But from the Stephano lover boiz who whine so hard. I mean cmon it was handled poorly but it was still fair wasnt it? Pretty sure no one on either side agrees a free win was fair
It wasnt fair but instead of make alot of drama of it just make it a win for XlorD since its the most appropiate. Lets say that its 70% ok to make it a win for XlorD there. Ofcourse you would go with that since its the best solution even if its not maximum "fair" for all parts.
Alright then.
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On December 24 2012 05:37 lolmlg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2012 05:10 derpface wrote:
Such a fail.
Not from XlorD, Stephano or the Admins or Take for that matter.
But from the Stephano lover boiz who whine so hard. I mean cmon it was handled poorly but it was still fair wasnt it? Show nested quote +On December 24 2012 05:26 derpface wrote:On December 24 2012 05:18 Corrosive wrote:On December 24 2012 05:10 derpface wrote:
Such a fail.
Not from XlorD, Stephano or the Admins or Take for that matter.
But from the Stephano lover boiz who whine so hard. I mean cmon it was handled poorly but it was still fair wasnt it? Pretty sure no one on either side agrees a free win was fair
It wasnt fair but instead of make alot of drama of it just make it a win for XlorD since its the most appropiate. Lets say that its 70% ok to make it a win for XlorD there. Ofcourse you would go with that since its the best solution even if its not maximum "fair" for all parts. Alright then.
So what, you gonna cry about it?
It was the most sensible thing to do.
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Xlord had that game for sure and I love watching Stephano..anyways awesome tournament
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Well all this shows, like every single time we have a disc, is that blizzard doesn't give a shit, because otherwise we'd have fucking lan at tournaments. This always sucks, and there are only 2 choices when a disc happen, and this time they didn't go for the regame, big fucking deal, until blizzard steps it up and gives us what every starcraft 2 tournament ever should have had, shit like this will keep happening.
No need to fuck with xlord though, he was a total unknown to me before this weekend, but throughout hsc I have really started to like him.
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On December 24 2012 08:20 Lorch wrote:
Well all this shows, like every single time we have a disc, is that blizzard doesn't give a shit, because otherwise we'd have fucking lan at tournaments. This always sucks, and there are only 2 choices when a disc happen, and this time they didn't go for the regame, big fucking deal, until blizzard steps it up and gives us what every starcraft 2 tournament ever should have had, shit like this will keep happening.
No need to fuck with xlord though, he was a total unknown to me before this weekend, but throughout hsc I have really started to like him.
you are awared, like most of this thread , that people are mostly pissed about xlord agresssive behavior towards admin or judges *casting players in same tournament as him lol * trying to persuade them. that it worked or not is not the poin.t Just the fact that he simply did it,Altough im pretty indifferent sbout stephano ,xlord was showed the perfect way to act by remaining at a distance and silently .
i couldnt care less about the rematch or not,to me its almost irrelevant compared to what he did during the deliberation
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On December 22 2012 20:36 nanaoei wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2012 20:12 Baptista wrote:
During 2012 Summer Olympics a sudden accident shocked the audience. In the middle of a highly anticipated 100m sprint a meteor, 2m in radius, hit the track fully destroying it. Luckly nobody was hurt. At the time of the hit Usain Bolt was 5 meters ahead of his opponents and was sure to win. Everybody knew his lead and skill was substantial and insurmountable. As a result the judges decided not to repeat the run and award Usain the gold medal due to his early lead. i don't understand, what are you trying to say?
that the decision was ridiculous
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On December 22 2012 23:00 TigerKarl wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2012 22:57 asdf3455 wrote:
You had like 80% chance to win that game and you decided to steal Stephano's 20% chance to win by acting like a child. You might consider not calling other people a child, when you look at what text you're producing. Everything is said here, let this thread die now and have fun with HSC Day 4
I produce text full of truth and intelligence;) He had like XX% chance to win that game and decided to steal Stephano's XX% chance to win by acting like a child, despite being offered 2-0 lead in best of 5 which would mean that if they are equally good he wins series 87,5% of time. He should acknowledge that he stole this series and apologize.
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