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Stop derailing this thread, get back on topic.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
November 23 2012 10:54 GMT
#81
On November 23 2012 19:47 Koshi wrote:
Sad to see all these players go to LoL. If they change to these "moba" games they should switch to DotA.


I too, find the LoL thing curious. MOBA is an interesting animal, DOTA is so unforgiving relative to LoL, I suppose LoL has a lot more casual appeal ergo larger market? Regardless there are beaucoup esports bucks in both.
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 10:55:31
November 23 2012 10:54 GMT
#82
On November 23 2012 19:04 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 19:00 BgSBendeR wrote:
SC2 is just a badly designed game.
That's why no one will ever "dominate" the scene completely.


Then don't play it and don't post in sc2 forums.


Why? If you like something you must see it errors and try to help make it better.
Not just sit and be a bitter conformist like... well

PS: And yes, my english is terribad.
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
LOLItsRyann
Profile Joined April 2011
England551 Posts
November 23 2012 10:55 GMT
#83
On November 23 2012 19:43 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
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On November 23 2012 18:57 Cereb wrote:
I don't quite get why you would annouce these "I'm switching to LoL" statements..

It's like Football player switching Basket Ball... Just because you were good in one sport doesn't mean that it will translate directly to the next.

Just say you retire from SC2, try the game out and maybe you are gonna be good. I just feel that this statement implies that you are guaranteed do be succesful in something that is very different from what you did well in.


This is so well said.


I think it's more a case of just informing people of information, not necessarily stating any success in particular. I mean at the end of the day, we're all fans of Starcraft, and it's information about the community.
EG<3
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
November 23 2012 10:59 GMT
#84
On November 23 2012 19:52 LOLItsRyann wrote:
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On November 23 2012 18:24 JonIrenicus wrote:
On November 23 2012 18:16 emc wrote:
hahaha, he sure missed out on that GSL trophy

On November 23 2012 18:16 Snowbear wrote:
I hope that this time people won't act like it's the end of sc2. The competition is too high atm, there are too many professionals, so people will have to quit. Good luck inori!


but isn't LoL bigger? it's also a team sport which is a lot harder in a lot of ways because there are more things that are out of your control.



People inside this forum will say no, because they are heavy fanboys, so I advise you to not believe anyone and just try LoL yourself and find if this is true or not.


I think it's quite sad that because some people have come to the conclusion that Starcraft is the only game people should ever play. League of Legends is a great game in many ways, and like others, has a great competetive scene. I think it's funny when people say LoL is easy at the top level, or dismiss is as being a challenge. The fact that you're competing against the best in the world is a challenge no matter what.

In a lot of peoples assesment of LoL and Starcraft, they say that LoL is easy because there's not as much to do. You only control one hero, instead of an entire army AND managing a base while microing fights. Sure, it might be easier, but at the top level it's the same as everything else. Take darts for example. Looks easy you might say? Then why can't every single person hit 180 every single time.

Every sport/game whatever you want to call it, is difficult in it's own ways. If you don't accept that, you're narrow minded in my opinion. Everything comes with it's own difficulties.


You have a very good point in my opinion.
If i can add, comparing SC2 x LOL is like comparing F1 x Rally
You cant do that, plain and simple. They looks similar, but are diferent in so many ways.
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
November 23 2012 11:00 GMT
#85
Good luck to Inori, it's probably best to switch/quit if the mindset to succeed/get higher isn't there anymore. Would only hold you back even more.
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
November 23 2012 11:05 GMT
#86
GL Inori.
Another mediocre korean trying his shot at making fast money in LoL, wondering how it will turn out for all of them.
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 23 2012 11:09 GMT
#87
On November 23 2012 19:54 Taipoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 19:04 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On November 23 2012 19:00 BgSBendeR wrote:
SC2 is just a badly designed game.
That's why no one will ever "dominate" the scene completely.


Then don't play it and don't post in sc2 forums.


Why? If you like something you must see it errors and try to help make it better.
Not just sit and be a bitter conformist like... well

PS: And yes, my english is terribad.


He's not stating any errors and he's not giving any ways to "make it better", he's just bitching for the sake of bitching in a thread where there is no place for that.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 11:12:27
November 23 2012 11:10 GMT
#88
On November 23 2012 19:59 Taipoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 19:52 LOLItsRyann wrote:
On November 23 2012 18:24 JonIrenicus wrote:
On November 23 2012 18:16 emc wrote:
hahaha, he sure missed out on that GSL trophy

On November 23 2012 18:16 Snowbear wrote:
I hope that this time people won't act like it's the end of sc2. The competition is too high atm, there are too many professionals, so people will have to quit. Good luck inori!


but isn't LoL bigger? it's also a team sport which is a lot harder in a lot of ways because there are more things that are out of your control.



People inside this forum will say no, because they are heavy fanboys, so I advise you to not believe anyone and just try LoL yourself and find if this is true or not.


I think it's quite sad that because some people have come to the conclusion that Starcraft is the only game people should ever play. League of Legends is a great game in many ways, and like others, has a great competetive scene. I think it's funny when people say LoL is easy at the top level, or dismiss is as being a challenge. The fact that you're competing against the best in the world is a challenge no matter what.

In a lot of peoples assesment of LoL and Starcraft, they say that LoL is easy because there's not as much to do. You only control one hero, instead of an entire army AND managing a base while microing fights. Sure, it might be easier, but at the top level it's the same as everything else. Take darts for example. Looks easy you might say? Then why can't every single person hit 180 every single time.

Every sport/game whatever you want to call it, is difficult in it's own ways. If you don't accept that, you're narrow minded in my opinion. Everything comes with it's own difficulties.


You have a very good point in my opinion.
If i can add, comparing SC2 x LOL is like comparing F1 x Rally
You cant do that, plain and simple. They looks similar, but are diferent in so many ways.


Nope. Both, F1 and rally require huge what we would call mechanical skills, aside being smart, etc etc... (one of the training methods on F1 out of so many, is for example "touching" lights that appear in a very fast succession, most F1 pilots are above 100 lights per minute, alonso having the record with 135, and the average fella is around 40... and that's only one of the qualities you must have).

The difference here is how much mechanical skill you require for competing at LoL. Which is laughable if you compare it to SC. Not like i agree with people saying that it makes LoL a non-esport. But definitly is easier to practice your game sense and teamplay than also your mechanical skills to be on top.
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 11:40:18
November 23 2012 11:10 GMT
#89
Sadness.
He was good at PvP.
https://soundcloud.com/papercranesdk
WeedRa
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany815 Posts
November 23 2012 11:12 GMT
#90
There you have it, SC2 requires more skill than LoL!

:D
ichnaschekot
Profile Joined January 2011
380 Posts
November 23 2012 11:15 GMT
#91
On November 23 2012 18:25 Musicus wrote:
I can see Idra's smile lol.


My first thought exactly
ZodaSoda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1191 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 11:20:26
November 23 2012 11:19 GMT
#92
they're just gunna make LoL saturated and leave many a player Teamless
whatevs
These guys would've switched to LoL from BW if BW was still going
oh well, good luck they're gunna need it
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EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
November 23 2012 11:23 GMT
#93
On November 23 2012 19:54 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 19:47 Koshi wrote:
Sad to see all these players go to LoL. If they change to these "moba" games they should switch to DotA.


I too, find the LoL thing curious. MOBA is an interesting animal, DOTA is so unforgiving relative to LoL, I suppose LoL has a lot more casual appeal ergo larger market? Regardless there are beaucoup esports bucks in both.


LoL took a massive headstart on playerbase as they were the first to go free to play. Pair that with mechanics my 12 year old CoD playing retard brother can master within months, It's just absolutely massive in Korea (whereas DotA is massive in China.) If you want to earn money, switch to LoL to milk the profits.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 11:30:02
November 23 2012 11:29 GMT
#94
On November 23 2012 20:23 EmilA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 19:54 ThomasjServo wrote:
On November 23 2012 19:47 Koshi wrote:
Sad to see all these players go to LoL. If they change to these "moba" games they should switch to DotA.


I too, find the LoL thing curious. MOBA is an interesting animal, DOTA is so unforgiving relative to LoL, I suppose LoL has a lot more casual appeal ergo larger market? Regardless there are beaucoup esports bucks in both.


LoL took a massive headstart on playerbase as they were the first to go free to play. Pair that with mechanics my 12 year old CoD playing retard brother can master within months, It's just absolutely massive in Korea (whereas DotA is massive in China.) If you want to earn money, switch to LoL to milk the profits.


From what I understand, this is just not true. The only way you're earning money in KR for LoL is if you're in OGN's The Champion's League and those spots are already taken by established LoL teams. If you're a solo player switching to LoL in KR trying to make it big you better hope to have people ready to make a team good enough to make it into there.

I don't think the KR teams change their rosters often at all, and even if they do change one member It's not going to be someone new to the game.

I would be happy to be proven wrong if someone more knowledgeable wants to tell us how it is over there.
Sapp
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland173 Posts
November 23 2012 11:30 GMT
#95
dead like a door!

... ouh fcuk, I just said that O.O!
Quote? O.o?
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 11:31:01
November 23 2012 11:30 GMT
#96
On November 23 2012 19:54 Taipoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 19:04 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On November 23 2012 19:00 BgSBendeR wrote:
SC2 is just a badly designed game.
That's why no one will ever "dominate" the scene completely.


Then don't play it and don't post in sc2 forums.


Why? If you like something you must see it errors and try to help make it better.
Not just sit and be a bitter conformist like... well

PS: And yes, my english is terribad.

What part of
On November 23 2012 19:00 BgSBendeR wrote:
SC2 is just a badly designed game.
That's why no one will ever "dominate" the scene completely.

is try to help make it better?
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
November 23 2012 11:31 GMT
#97
On November 23 2012 20:30 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 19:54 Taipoka wrote:
On November 23 2012 19:04 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On November 23 2012 19:00 BgSBendeR wrote:
SC2 is just a badly designed game.
That's why no one will ever "dominate" the scene completely.


Then don't play it and don't post in sc2 forums.


Why? If you like something you must see it errors and try to help make it better.
Not just sit and be a bitter conformist like... well

PS: And yes, my english is terribad.

What part of
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 19:00 BgSBendeR wrote:
SC2 is just a badly designed game.
That's why no one will ever "dominate" the scene completely.

is try to help make it better?


ur game bad.

Make it better.

Imma being constrctriv0rz
beg
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
991 Posts
November 23 2012 11:33 GMT
#98
On November 23 2012 18:32 udgnim wrote:
both SC2 and LoL is hard to make it big as a progamer making sufficient money

with SC2 for Koreans, it's mostly needing to win tournaments or consistently placing high to earn some income

with LoL, it has the potentially of at least supporting teams via contracts like BW since LoL is blowing up in Korea. in the OGN LoL tournament pre-final matches, LoL draws audience sizes as big if not bigger than recent GSL finals.

while KESPA teams are currently paying their SC2 players salaries still, I think a lot is going to change when more and more players start to have their contracts expire and KESPA teams needing to seriously evaluate their market exposure and potential ROI.

SC2 just isn't big in Korea, and SC2 needs a lot more multitask and micro injected into it to make it become a better spectator game. unfortunately, it's really up to Blizzard to make the necessary changes.

no, you got it all wrong.

SC2 pulls enough viewers consistently to sustain a progaming scene. period. LoL might have more viewers, but SC2 has enough viewers. that's the only thing that counts. proof: CS gets about as many viewers as SC2 and is able to sustain a progaming scene for a decade now.

the only downside to this is that LoL will have crazy $1million tournaments, while SC2 will probably not grow beyond what we have now, unless some miracle happens.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
November 23 2012 11:33 GMT
#99
On November 23 2012 20:19 ZodaSoda wrote:
they're just gunna make LoL saturated and leave many a player Teamless
whatevs
These guys would've switched to LoL from BW if BW was still going
oh well, good luck they're gunna need it

If you look at the success rate the people who switched from SC2/SC:BW has had they probably already reached that point.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 11:39:46
November 23 2012 11:38 GMT
#100
On November 23 2012 20:33 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 20:19 ZodaSoda wrote:
they're just gunna make LoL saturated and leave many a player Teamless
whatevs
These guys would've switched to LoL from BW if BW was still going
oh well, good luck they're gunna need it

If you look at the success rate the people who switched from SC2/SC:BW has had they probably already reached that point.


I feel like when these players say " they are switching to LoL " when they retire from SC what they mean is they will give this game a shot since they are used to being pro gamers, but I think almost all of them will not be successful and give up rather quickly, then retire from pro gaming in general and live a normal life.

You can't just switch from SC to a team game unless you already have a team lined up.
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