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TSL_inori retires from SC2 and switches to League - Page 7

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Stop derailing this thread, get back on topic.
Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
November 23 2012 12:22 GMT
#121
A shame. I like Inori, but I suppose I understand. He still had potential but if you're not confident in yourself and you can't get that confidence, I understand why you wouldn't continue. Good luck Inori, I'll miss ya.
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
November 23 2012 12:23 GMT
#122
Korea's obsession with LoL is so sad. GL, i guess.... hope to see all these guys back someday.
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Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2107 Posts
November 23 2012 12:25 GMT
#123
i think it has something to do with LoL is actually FUN to play compared to sc2. just a thought
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supdubdup
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States916 Posts
November 23 2012 12:32 GMT
#124
Let's be bic. They don't want to grow up to be like their dads.
Turn it Up
ffrozenfish
Profile Joined May 2011
820 Posts
November 23 2012 12:34 GMT
#125
OP should have used "quits" instead of "retires"

Good luck to Inori
Give us our snipe back - Ghost
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
November 23 2012 12:34 GMT
#126
Hope he does well in LoL.

Would be cool to read up on the former SC2 pros on how they are doing in LoL.

Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 12:38:14
November 23 2012 12:37 GMT
#127
Doubt any of those who switches will ever be pros at LoL. The game might not be hard mechanically, but there are so many people playing, that it is just as hard, or harder, to make a name for yourself in it.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
November 23 2012 12:38 GMT
#128
On November 23 2012 19:21 Ruscour wrote:
It'd be funny if he sucked as League just as hard.


Can`t be worse than Destiny. I think it is harder to break into the LoL scene because you need to get into a team. So a player like Destiny would need some serious connections with his current skill/knowledge.

I am actually surprised there isn`t a lot more players retiring. Inori retiring doesn`t mean a damn thing other than him realizing he is making no impact on the sc2 scene and doesn`t seem himself doing so in the near future.

Serek
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom459 Posts
November 23 2012 12:40 GMT
#129
On November 23 2012 20:47 NexCa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 18:16 emc wrote:
On November 23 2012 18:16 Snowbear wrote:
I hope that this time people won't act like it's the end of sc2. The competition is too high atm, there are too many professionals, so people will have to quit. Good luck inori!


but isn't LoL bigger? it's also a team sport which is harder in other ways because there are more things that are out of your control.


LoL is much easier than SC2, you need much more actions per minute in SC2 than in LoL.

And stop comparing SC2 with LoL


Do as I say, not as I do...

Good luck to Inori. At the end all that matters is that he's happy with the decision he just made.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8726 Posts
November 23 2012 12:40 GMT
#130
kinda sad to lose a good player, on the other hand I have no doubt that another player at least as good will "take his place", in team TSL and/or in the SC2 Community.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 12:46:03
November 23 2012 12:45 GMT
#131
I hope he's got more skill and luck with LoL then he had with Starcraft.
Best of luck finding a team and make a living of League i doubt it's getting any more easy with that.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
November 23 2012 12:50 GMT
#132
what the??????? ;<
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MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
November 23 2012 12:52 GMT
#133
This makes sense, Inori hasn't won a match in the GSL in 2 years. Why wouldn't he try out a different game? Even if it doesn't get him anywhere, at least he tried. What I don't get is why people think this is because of "design problems" with sc2. It doesn't make sense, sc2 has too many design problems, so I'm gonna watch... LoL. The game where you control 1 guy, and everyone has an ability with the purpose of making sure you can't control your 1 guy. Same goes for dota
WerderBremen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany1070 Posts
November 23 2012 12:59 GMT
#134
He didn't peaked out of the endless list of good players,

Don't want to be mean but I think its not worth a new thread every time any pro is retiring.

Anyway ggl in the future.
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rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
November 23 2012 13:01 GMT
#135
That mostly irrelevant or teamless people switch to LoL says very little about the state of SC2. He clearly is not succeeding in SC2 so he wanted to quit, so as a last desperate hope he tries LoL, because what other options does he really have? He either do this or go live a "regular" life (army, studies, or work). It has nothing to do with him feeling bigger than SC2, in fact quite the opposite. He is not able to cut it in the SC2 scene.

Even if LoL is bigger than SC2 (and it definitely is in Korea, don't know about outside, probably depends on how you measure success), what does that mean? We only have room for one game and the only metric of success is size? Football, boxing and formula 1 are also bigger, but that does not mean SC2 is dead. I see it as quite natural that we should have competitive titles in MOBA, RTS and FPS at the same time since while the audiences overlap, they are not identical and some people watch multiple titles.

Furthermore it is impossible to say that SC2 or LoL is harder. If one was considerably harder than the other, people would switch to the easier title for easy money and fame. As long as the skill ceilling isn't reached (and it won't ever be in either game) there will naturally be a pretty even difficulty for the two games. Of course the kinds of skills required are slightly different, but so what? One requires team work, one may require a bit more mental attention and reflexes, but overall they are of the same difficulty.
cari-kira
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany655 Posts
November 23 2012 13:05 GMT
#136
On November 23 2012 18:28 GTR wrote:
it's just as hard to break into the lol pro scene as it is for sc2, there are so many established teams right now in lol in korea that it would be really difficult to break into the scene in such short notice.

min/coca/puzzle/sc haven't made a splash at all yet. remember the bw players brave and grape who quit khan to play league? non-existent.


this.
it might seem attractive to just switch the game when you have no success in sc2, but just wait some month, i doubt anyone of these players will be LoL-pros by then. most will probably quit the scene.
Live and let live
ffrozenfish
Profile Joined May 2011
820 Posts
November 23 2012 13:06 GMT
#137
On November 23 2012 22:01 rasnj wrote:
That mostly irrelevant or teamless people switch to LoL says very little about the state of SC2. He clearly is not succeeding in SC2 so he wanted to quit, so as a last desperate hope he tries LoL, because what other options does he really have? He either do this or go live a "regular" life (army, studies, or work). It has nothing to do with him feeling bigger than SC2, in fact quite the opposite. He is not able to cut it in the SC2 scene.

Even if LoL is bigger than SC2 (and it definitely is in Korea, don't know about outside, probably depends on how you measure success), what does that mean? We only have room for one game and the only metric of success is size? Football, boxing and formula 1 are also bigger, but that does not mean SC2 is dead. I see it as quite natural that we should have competitive titles in MOBA, RTS and FPS at the same time since while the audiences overlap, they are not identical and some people watch multiple titles.

Furthermore it is impossible to say that SC2 or LoL is harder. If one was considerably harder than the other, people would switch to the easier title for easy money and fame. As long as the skill ceilling isn't reached (and it won't ever be in either game) there will naturally be a pretty even difficulty for the two games. Of course the kinds of skills required are slightly different, but so what? One requires team work, one may require a bit more mental attention and reflexes, but overall they are of the same difficulty.


lol switch just happened
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
November 23 2012 13:12 GMT
#138
oh the irony, sc2 players hating on lol because its easier while their game is easy joke compared to bw
Soda-88
Profile Joined April 2012
Croatia476 Posts
November 23 2012 13:19 GMT
#139
On November 23 2012 22:01 rasnj wrote:
Furthermore it is impossible to say that SC2 or LoL is harder. If one was considerably harder than the other, people would switch to the easier title for easy money and fame. As long as the skill ceilling isn't reached (and it won't ever be in either game) there will naturally be a pretty even difficulty for the two games. Of course the kinds of skills required are slightly different, but so what? One requires team work, one may require a bit more mental attention and reflexes, but overall they are of the same difficulty.

You must be joking with this part... MOBA games take 15 eAPM and alot of teamspeak screaming at the pro level. You also control 1/5 of your team's resources. It's like a watered down Warcraft III and please, just please don't tell me you think controlling a hero with 4 spells in 5v5 is harder than controlling the same hero along with the rest of your army/economy/production.

Anyways, lol@ppl calling SC2 death because some non-factor players switch over to another game. I'd start worrying if the likes of Mvp switch over, not people who can't qualify for Code A anymore.
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
November 23 2012 13:25 GMT
#140
I'm really surprised he went to LoL. We all like to say how easy it is and stuff, but how does a mid-tier(at best) sc2 pro become good enough to warrant a pay from a team? How does he find a team that accepts him..

While LoL is "easy" mechanically, there's lots of decision making done and it's hard to be good by just doing that because decision making is one of the hardest things to learn in any game. When decision making/awareness are the main factor consisting of your skill, it will be hard to innovate and stand out(imo).

GL Inori.
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