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On November 23 2012 23:19 NotoriousBig wrote:
Haha,
this is another example that every player who is just too bad for SC2 moves to LOL.
True story... not, i dont know but yet many low tier Pros of SC2 switched to LoL - none of them has yet shown up anywhere near prolevel in LoL.
Stop making wrong statements about skill ceiling in 2 completely different games. LoL is only easier mechanical wise but you will notice that it is alot more complex meta wise then SC2.
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On November 23 2012 23:19 NotoriousBig wrote:
Haha,
this is another example that every player who is just too bad for SC2 moves to LOL.
Relatively speaking, Inori is still pretty amazing and could probably win a lot of smaller foreign tournaments easily if he entered, which are the same ones that give hope to no-name foreigner players who are still playing in europe, NA, etc.
Although I wonder if that decision is a good one. Now instead of relying on himself he has to rely on 4 other people to do things right, when the competitive scene for LoL is if anything higher than sc2 due to the massive popularity of the game. I wouldn't feel very secure being a pro-gamer if that was my plan...just because you can micro well in SC2 doesn't mean much in LoL, because the skill (i.e. multitasking) gap is low enough that it doesn't matter how well you can control three armies and an economy.
That means its all based on how well you play in a team, something which SC2 players have relatively little experience in (unless he's played other team games for a while). Oh well I'm sure he has a back up plan
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have any of the recent switches joined a successful LoL team?
or formed one of their own?
is there any business sense to this decision at all, or are they just trying a different game and hoping it works out for them? Seems like the games use different skillsets entirely.
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What are people smoking? LoL more complex than SC2??!?!?!?
You have 5 units vs 5 units spaming spells at eachother and micro-ing a single unit most of the time.
How can you compare that with sc2 pro lvl?
There is no meta. Just map awareness and fast decision making during team clashes.
Players like Inori leave for LoL because its an easier source for money. There is way more money thrown into LoL because of its large audience generated from copy pasting the dota concept, making it free and more easy than the not so noob-friendly dota.
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On November 23 2012 18:16 emc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 18:16 Snowbear wrote:
I hope that this time people won't act like it's the end of sc2. The competition is too high atm, there are too many professionals, so people will have to quit. Good luck inori! but isn't LoL bigger? it's also a team sport which is harder in other ways because there are more things that are out of your control.
:D yeah dice throw is the ultimate hard game by your logic. In dicethrow, everything is out of your control.
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Now who will be making DT every game anymore? :'(
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On November 23 2012 23:42 FlukyS wrote:
Now who will be making DT every game anymore? :'(
Inori=/= Inca :D
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On November 23 2012 23:24 Meega wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 23:19 NotoriousBig wrote:
Haha,
this is another example that every player who is just too bad for SC2 moves to LOL. True story... not, i dont know but yet many low tier Pros of SC2 switched to LoL - none of them has yet shown up anywhere near prolevel in LoL. Stop making wrong statements about skill ceiling in 2 completely different games. LoL is only easier mechanical wise but you will notice that it is alot more complex meta wise then SC2.
Actually, you are wrong.
He didn't say anything about skill ceiling in LoL he just said that people who don't reach their goals in SC2 switch.
And that is very true, of course Inori wasn't bad. But in relation to the korean pro-scene he was non-existent.
Also I know quite a few people who bought SC2 but when they didn't make it they started playing LoL.
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I dont see why people turn this into a big deal.
There are times in every persons life when they sit down and evaluate their bearings.
He simply said to himself, this is as far as I can go in Sc2, so I am going to take my gaming skills and switch to something easier and perhaps go further?
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Can we all be a little less toxic to players who switch to LoL? It's a totally reasonable choice, and their fucking choice. Just because they made it doesn't mean they're terrible (inori definitely wasn't).
This thread makes me sad.
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it´s funny because it seems like he swichted to lol because his skill was too low for sc2 ! (which i can´t judge)
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I was a old LOL\DOTA\HON player for a long time. (since 1rst dota release)
I want to say that SC2 it requires a 150% of your gameplay to be good player. In lol you need like 80%. So SC2 its way more harder to play
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On November 23 2012 23:34 Meggiroth wrote:
What are people smoking? LoL more complex than SC2??!?!?!?
You have 5 units vs 5 units spaming spells at eachother and micro-ing a single unit most of the time.
How can you compare that with sc2 pro lvl?
There is no meta. Just map awareness and fast decision making during team clashes.
Players like Inori leave for LoL because its an easier source for money. There is way more money thrown into LoL because of its large audience generated from copy pasting the dota concept, making it free and more easy than the not so noob-friendly dota.
There're too many generalisations here for it really to be taken seriously, but I'll just say, there is a meta.
Many people seem to be using the degrading adjectives 'free', 'easy' and 'noob friendly' (like these are really drawbacks anyway l0l). Though, another one to consider is 'fun'.
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The trend seems to be the following:
1- No good results for an extended period of time
2- Realise you don't have the skills to be competitive at Starcraft 2
3- Quit and switch to LoL
It really isn't because the game or the pro scene is better, they just can't keep up skillwise. LoL just seems like the easy way out without dropping progaming alltogether.
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just fucking stop with the LoL vs sc2 comparisons
it takes different things to be skilled at either.
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I'm curious if he'll make it... well, anywhere in LoL.
None of the switched SC pros have been even remotely relevant so far.
Not to be too negative, I wish him the best of luck, of course.
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at least he is still gaming. Just curious, and this is likely not the topic for it, TL.net is becoming a really big esports hub, maybe they should expand coverage into league of legends?
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On November 23 2012 18:25 Musicus wrote:
I can see Idra's smile lol.
Now that's one other "pro" that should go play LoL, along with incontrol and lzgamer.
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On November 23 2012 23:34 Meggiroth wrote:
What are people smoking? LoL more complex than SC2??!?!?!?
You have 5 units vs 5 units spaming spells at eachother and micro-ing a single unit most of the time.
How can you compare that with sc2 pro lvl?
There is no meta. Just map awareness and fast decision making during team clashes.
Players like Inori leave for LoL because its an easier source for money. There is way more money thrown into LoL because of its large audience generated from copy pasting the dota concept, making it free and more easy than the not so noob-friendly dota.
Just try LoL for yourself. There most def' is a metagame in LoL, and it is very hard to get used to because there's a metagame for every champion matchup.
It's also just as hard to learn all of the champs in LoL as it is to learn starcraft 2.
So please, just try LoL before you go and say it is a terrible game of nothingness.
Thanks =D
Back on topic~
See you inori.  My friend talked to me about you and it seems hard to go pro in sc2 now days, even for the skilled players.
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On November 24 2012 00:10 HeeroFX wrote:
at least he is still gaming. Just curious, and this is likely not the topic for it, TL.net is becoming a really big esports hub, maybe they should expand coverage into league of legends?
This is spoken of a lot in the LoL subforum and was discussed in the Dota2 coverage announcement. Simply, the TL staff are generally more interested in Dota2. Doesn't mean LoL can't happen in the future but for the moment, it is how it is.
Drop by the subforum though, tis a very nice place to frequent indeed
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