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TSL_inori retires from SC2 and switches to League - Page 6

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Stop derailing this thread, get back on topic.
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
November 23 2012 11:43 GMT
#101
There's an inflated number of pros in SC2. Many just aren't good enough and this is natural. To be honest i'm surprised not more people have quit thus far.
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
November 23 2012 11:47 GMT
#102
On November 23 2012 18:16 emc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 18:16 Snowbear wrote:
I hope that this time people won't act like it's the end of sc2. The competition is too high atm, there are too many professionals, so people will have to quit. Good luck inori!


but isn't LoL bigger? it's also a team sport which is harder in other ways because there are more things that are out of your control.


LoL is much easier than SC2, you need much more actions per minute in SC2 than in LoL.

And stop comparing SC2 with LoL
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rewired
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada630 Posts
November 23 2012 11:53 GMT
#103
Lots of angry ass people in this thread

GL to Inori in anything he pursues in the future always remember to GL n HF
The road isn't always straight.
HououinKyouma
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia152 Posts
November 23 2012 11:53 GMT
#104
Good luck buddy....
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Veriol
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic502 Posts
November 23 2012 11:53 GMT
#105
Afaik none of those ppl who switched made any impact in other games. Only exception i can think of is iceiceice but he played dota -> sc2 -> dota2 so im not sure if that counts.
Truth is sc2 is atm very very saturated and only very few can make money and in korea even less. Koreans mostly play and pratice for accomodation and food in teamhouse. not salary like foreigners so they basically make little to no money wich can be frustrating.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
November 23 2012 11:55 GMT
#106
I remember when BW players transferred to SC2, a lot of people told me I should watch SC2 to keep seeing them.

Wonder where those people are now.
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gOst
Profile Joined June 2011
415 Posts
November 23 2012 11:55 GMT
#107
LoL; where pro-gamers go to die...
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 11:58:23
November 23 2012 11:56 GMT
#108
Kinda feel bad for Inori, his chances in SC2 were probably better than they will be in LoL.

I really think these retirements are going to continue/increase until we see more equitable prize distributions or a dominant proleague format. There's no arguing that 'mid tier' players retiring/switching games is good for the scene. The standard for results being 'place top4 in a tournament' is fucking awful when there aren't 300 tournaments. Even when there are so many tournaments, by and large it's the same people taking the top spots. It's kinda fucked up that the consistent RO16ers like inori struggling to make a living/find financial success =/

Really worried about long term growth if teams/tournaments don't adopt a more sustainable model that encourages growth of the scene/players, as well as the viewership. Even the tournaments that are doing it 'right' (WCS?) have first place making 10-15x than even the semifinalists. If prize pools are going to continue to be the main income for players, that really isn't going to work =/
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
November 23 2012 12:01 GMT
#109
League of Legends are more like like League of Lost Pros. Inori had a good handful of all-ins that we all can remember.
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Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 12:01:45
November 23 2012 12:01 GMT
#110
On November 23 2012 20:31 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 20:30 Assirra wrote:
On November 23 2012 19:54 Taipoka wrote:
On November 23 2012 19:04 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On November 23 2012 19:00 BgSBendeR wrote:
SC2 is just a badly designed game.
That's why no one will ever "dominate" the scene completely.


Then don't play it and don't post in sc2 forums.


Why? If you like something you must see it errors and try to help make it better.
Not just sit and be a bitter conformist like... well

PS: And yes, my english is terribad.

What part of
On November 23 2012 19:00 BgSBendeR wrote:
SC2 is just a badly designed game.
That's why no one will ever "dominate" the scene completely.

is try to help make it better?


ur game bad.

Make it better.

Imma being constrctriv0rz


I agree with you guys there.
Theres not one opinion in his post.
But on the other side, its like the alcoholism.
First you should know you have a problem, then you can identify where it can be better.
But as i said, i agree with you guys, his post was not good, but i dont like "dont like it, so gtfo" posts either.
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 23 2012 12:01 GMT
#111
On November 23 2012 20:55 IntoTheWow wrote:
I remember when BW players transferred to SC2, a lot of people told me I should watch SC2 to keep seeing them.

Wonder where those people are now.


Bitching about LoL in threads like these >_>
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 12:05:53
November 23 2012 12:04 GMT
#112
I'm starting to think the Korean eSports scene is itself over saturated and is in for an implosion. They don't have the sort of international audience that they need to sustain two large scenes, and AFAIK the Korean market itself isn't getting bigger so... Well, one game's gonna have to give, and at the moment I think it's going to be SC 2.

Fortunately for them, they have international SC 2 to pick up the slack on a lot of the sponsorship and tournament $ that their own teams and leagues aren't able to provide. But how long is that going to last given the drop in SC 2 viewership across the world?
Finnz
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom260 Posts
November 23 2012 12:05 GMT
#113
This is getting quite pathetic now. I wonder who will be next?
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
November 23 2012 12:11 GMT
#114
natural selection at its finest.
#1 Grubby Fan.
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
November 23 2012 12:11 GMT
#115
On November 23 2012 18:20 JonIrenicus wrote:
He did the best choice. . He would be a fool not to go full time on lol.

Sc2 is fucked up, and LoL is constantly growing.

This is the why no one can criticize also Destiny for the choice he made.

hes still playing sc2 right?
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Veriol
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic502 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 12:33:53
November 23 2012 12:14 GMT
#116
On November 23 2012 20:56 Jehct wrote:
Kinda feel bad for Inori, his chances in SC2 were probably better than they will be in LoL.

I really think these retirements are going to continue/increase until we see more equitable prize distributions or a dominant proleague format. There's no arguing that 'mid tier' players retiring/switching games is good for the scene. The standard for results being 'place top4 in a tournament' is fucking awful when there aren't 300 tournaments. Even when there are so many tournaments, by and large it's the same people taking the top spots. It's kinda fucked up that the consistent RO16ers like inori struggling to make a living/find financial success =/

Really worried about long term growth if teams/tournaments don't adopt a more sustainable model that encourages growth of the scene/players, as well as the viewership. Even the tournaments that are doing it 'right' (WCS?) have first place making 10-15x than even the semifinalists. If prize pools are going to continue to be the main income for players, that really isn't going to work =/


Yeah i think this is the main problem now in whole esport not only sc2. If you actually arent a player/team who can make it top4 in each tournament they enter you simply cant/have very hard time sustain urself. From here you have to take it as a hobby not as actual job wich drops quality of the games and so on until we are back to cuasual gaming no progaming.

GSTL semi just finished and the team that lost is getting 3k $ and the one advancing to finals is going to get 13k$ minimum..
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape." -iloveoov
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
November 23 2012 12:17 GMT
#117
On November 23 2012 18:16 emc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 18:16 Snowbear wrote:
I hope that this time people won't act like it's the end of sc2. The competition is too high atm, there are too many professionals, so people will have to quit. Good luck inori!


but isn't LoL bigger? it's also a team sport which is harder in other ways because there are more things that are out of your control.


"also a team sport which is harder"
"team sport which is harder"
"which is harder"
"harder"... Can't tell if stupid or trolling...

either way gl inori on ur career switch hope everything works out.
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KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
November 23 2012 12:18 GMT
#118
ohgodtheskyisfallingeverybodypanic

This really isn't a big deal.
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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
November 23 2012 12:21 GMT
#119
On November 23 2012 20:47 NexCa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 18:16 emc wrote:
On November 23 2012 18:16 Snowbear wrote:
I hope that this time people won't act like it's the end of sc2. The competition is too high atm, there are too many professionals, so people will have to quit. Good luck inori!


but isn't LoL bigger? it's also a team sport which is harder in other ways because there are more things that are out of your control.


LoL is much easier than SC2, you need much more actions per minute in SC2 than in LoL.

And stop comparing SC2 with LoL


And SC2 is a hard game how?

The irony in this thread is incredible
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Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 12:22:51
November 23 2012 12:22 GMT
#120
On November 23 2012 21:17 Advantageous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 18:16 emc wrote:
On November 23 2012 18:16 Snowbear wrote:
I hope that this time people won't act like it's the end of sc2. The competition is too high atm, there are too many professionals, so people will have to quit. Good luck inori!


but isn't LoL bigger? it's also a team sport which is harder in other ways because there are more things that are out of your control.


"also a team sport which is harder"
"team sport which is harder"
"which is harder"
"harder"... Can't tell if stupid or trolling...

either way gl inori on ur career switch hope everything works out.

You need to work on your reading comprehension - "which is harder in other ways". You can be the best player in the world and not win tournaments (or even place top4) if you don't 'click' with your team, or you can be a top player who doesn't have a team when a big tournament comes around. Team games come with their share of different issues, and require a toolkit/skillset different from those in 1v1.

But sure, go ahead and take him out of context to make some ridiculous point that supports your view of the world. You could work for fox!
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