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To people saying that it is easier to be an upcoming pro gramer in LoL, I ask how many new teams are invited to major tournaments. It's usually one, maybe two. Because of the length of the games and the sets, they can't invite any more than 8 teams maximum. If anything, it would be more difficult to start up as a new pro gamer for LoL.
[edit] From a monetization perspective, the prize pots aren't significantly larger than SC2 pots and they have to split it 6 ways usually (1 for the team, 1 for each member (5 members)) so it's hardly any more money compared to SC2.
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On November 27 2012 00:51 lolmlg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 12:22 Wombat_NI wrote:On November 26 2012 11:24 The Final Boss wrote:
I said I was done posting, but I guess I lied. I know that I am right, I know that DonKey_ is the only other sensible person here, and what I certainly know is that LoL is growing faster than any other game right now and it's going to go way farther than StarCraft 2 (which is becoming more and more stagnant) and DotA 2. You guys can keep your snobby elitist crap, I used to love watching StarCraft 2 and the community was great but it's really too bad that TL has become a bastion of bashing a game that is undoubtedly going to be more successful. It doesn't take "less skill," but rather different skills, and talking about a "perfect" game or skill ceilings serves no use. That's all, gg. You don't have to be a snobby elitist to dislike LoL. A lot of the reaction here is in part to LoL being a seemingly omnipresent point of discussion, even in the SC2 sections. Some people go out of their way to bash the game as a reaction to this, but personally feel each to his own. That said I am fucking, 100% sick of LoL talk in every other thread when we should be talking about SC2 and other games that are you know, actually the point of TL. This is 100% of the reason why forums add new sections. If TL insists on putting its eggs in the DotA2 basket then LoL will continue to be discussed in random places. Period.
There is a designated section for LoL... wake up and use it. Period.
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On November 27 2012 01:24 MiQ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 00:51 lolmlg wrote:On November 26 2012 12:22 Wombat_NI wrote:On November 26 2012 11:24 The Final Boss wrote:
I said I was done posting, but I guess I lied. I know that I am right, I know that DonKey_ is the only other sensible person here, and what I certainly know is that LoL is growing faster than any other game right now and it's going to go way farther than StarCraft 2 (which is becoming more and more stagnant) and DotA 2. You guys can keep your snobby elitist crap, I used to love watching StarCraft 2 and the community was great but it's really too bad that TL has become a bastion of bashing a game that is undoubtedly going to be more successful. It doesn't take "less skill," but rather different skills, and talking about a "perfect" game or skill ceilings serves no use. That's all, gg. You don't have to be a snobby elitist to dislike LoL. A lot of the reaction here is in part to LoL being a seemingly omnipresent point of discussion, even in the SC2 sections. Some people go out of their way to bash the game as a reaction to this, but personally feel each to his own. That said I am fucking, 100% sick of LoL talk in every other thread when we should be talking about SC2 and other games that are you know, actually the point of TL. This is 100% of the reason why forums add new sections. If TL insists on putting its eggs in the DotA2 basket then LoL will continue to be discussed in random places. Period. There is a designated section for LoL... wake up and use it. Period.
Yeah, a subsection of a section that's basically equivalent to "other". Between "Sports & Games" and "Health & Fitness". It's the biggest PC game in the world with a large competitive scene. That is the reality of the situation and not catering to that demographic with a prominent forum section, features, news, etc. results in what you are seeing.
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On November 27 2012 02:32 lolmlg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 01:24 MiQ wrote:On November 27 2012 00:51 lolmlg wrote:On November 26 2012 12:22 Wombat_NI wrote:On November 26 2012 11:24 The Final Boss wrote:
I said I was done posting, but I guess I lied. I know that I am right, I know that DonKey_ is the only other sensible person here, and what I certainly know is that LoL is growing faster than any other game right now and it's going to go way farther than StarCraft 2 (which is becoming more and more stagnant) and DotA 2. You guys can keep your snobby elitist crap, I used to love watching StarCraft 2 and the community was great but it's really too bad that TL has become a bastion of bashing a game that is undoubtedly going to be more successful. It doesn't take "less skill," but rather different skills, and talking about a "perfect" game or skill ceilings serves no use. That's all, gg. You don't have to be a snobby elitist to dislike LoL. A lot of the reaction here is in part to LoL being a seemingly omnipresent point of discussion, even in the SC2 sections. Some people go out of their way to bash the game as a reaction to this, but personally feel each to his own. That said I am fucking, 100% sick of LoL talk in every other thread when we should be talking about SC2 and other games that are you know, actually the point of TL. This is 100% of the reason why forums add new sections. If TL insists on putting its eggs in the DotA2 basket then LoL will continue to be discussed in random places. Period. There is a designated section for LoL... wake up and use it. Period. Yeah, a subsection of a section that's basically equivalent to "other". Between "Sports & Games" and "Health & Fitness". It's the biggest PC game in the world with a large competitive scene. That is the reality of the situation and not catering to that demographic with a prominent forum section, features, news, etc. results in what you are seeing.
..What are you even talking about?
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On November 27 2012 02:36 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 02:32 lolmlg wrote:On November 27 2012 01:24 MiQ wrote:On November 27 2012 00:51 lolmlg wrote:On November 26 2012 12:22 Wombat_NI wrote:On November 26 2012 11:24 The Final Boss wrote:
I said I was done posting, but I guess I lied. I know that I am right, I know that DonKey_ is the only other sensible person here, and what I certainly know is that LoL is growing faster than any other game right now and it's going to go way farther than StarCraft 2 (which is becoming more and more stagnant) and DotA 2. You guys can keep your snobby elitist crap, I used to love watching StarCraft 2 and the community was great but it's really too bad that TL has become a bastion of bashing a game that is undoubtedly going to be more successful. It doesn't take "less skill," but rather different skills, and talking about a "perfect" game or skill ceilings serves no use. That's all, gg. You don't have to be a snobby elitist to dislike LoL. A lot of the reaction here is in part to LoL being a seemingly omnipresent point of discussion, even in the SC2 sections. Some people go out of their way to bash the game as a reaction to this, but personally feel each to his own. That said I am fucking, 100% sick of LoL talk in every other thread when we should be talking about SC2 and other games that are you know, actually the point of TL. This is 100% of the reason why forums add new sections. If TL insists on putting its eggs in the DotA2 basket then LoL will continue to be discussed in random places. Period. There is a designated section for LoL... wake up and use it. Period. Yeah, a subsection of a section that's basically equivalent to "other". Between "Sports & Games" and "Health & Fitness". It's the biggest PC game in the world with a large competitive scene. That is the reality of the situation and not catering to that demographic with a prominent forum section, features, news, etc. results in what you are seeing. ..What are you even talking about?
Pretty sure we were talking about LoL and constant seeping of LoL as a topic into other areas.
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On November 27 2012 02:32 lolmlg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 01:24 MiQ wrote:On November 27 2012 00:51 lolmlg wrote:On November 26 2012 12:22 Wombat_NI wrote:On November 26 2012 11:24 The Final Boss wrote:
I said I was done posting, but I guess I lied. I know that I am right, I know that DonKey_ is the only other sensible person here, and what I certainly know is that LoL is growing faster than any other game right now and it's going to go way farther than StarCraft 2 (which is becoming more and more stagnant) and DotA 2. You guys can keep your snobby elitist crap, I used to love watching StarCraft 2 and the community was great but it's really too bad that TL has become a bastion of bashing a game that is undoubtedly going to be more successful. It doesn't take "less skill," but rather different skills, and talking about a "perfect" game or skill ceilings serves no use. That's all, gg. You don't have to be a snobby elitist to dislike LoL. A lot of the reaction here is in part to LoL being a seemingly omnipresent point of discussion, even in the SC2 sections. Some people go out of their way to bash the game as a reaction to this, but personally feel each to his own. That said I am fucking, 100% sick of LoL talk in every other thread when we should be talking about SC2 and other games that are you know, actually the point of TL. This is 100% of the reason why forums add new sections. If TL insists on putting its eggs in the DotA2 basket then LoL will continue to be discussed in random places. Period. There is a designated section for LoL... wake up and use it. Period. Yeah, a subsection of a section that's basically equivalent to "other". Between "Sports & Games" and "Health & Fitness". It's the biggest PC game in the world with a large competitive scene. That is the reality of the situation and not catering to that demographic with a prominent forum section, features, news, etc. results in what you are seeing.
Go read the Ten Commandments again. Hell I'll post the relevant point to you
On September 13 2004 22:42 mensrea wrote:1. THIS IS OUR HOUSE You are our guests. We will make all attempts to treat everyone with due respect and to accommodate everyone's wishes as far as reasonably possible. But, this is a private site. We are not funded by any governments. This means we run the site the way we see fit. We are not obligated to observe anyone's notions of "free speech" or even "fairness." We try of course, and that's why we're consistently considered one of the best gaming sites on the web, and you are always free to give us suggestions ( Website Feedback Forum). But, we have our limits. If we don't like you, we simply ban you.
This is their forums. If you don't like it, great. Its still their call who they want to prioritise.
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On November 27 2012 02:40 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 02:32 lolmlg wrote:On November 27 2012 01:24 MiQ wrote:On November 27 2012 00:51 lolmlg wrote:On November 26 2012 12:22 Wombat_NI wrote:On November 26 2012 11:24 The Final Boss wrote:
I said I was done posting, but I guess I lied. I know that I am right, I know that DonKey_ is the only other sensible person here, and what I certainly know is that LoL is growing faster than any other game right now and it's going to go way farther than StarCraft 2 (which is becoming more and more stagnant) and DotA 2. You guys can keep your snobby elitist crap, I used to love watching StarCraft 2 and the community was great but it's really too bad that TL has become a bastion of bashing a game that is undoubtedly going to be more successful. It doesn't take "less skill," but rather different skills, and talking about a "perfect" game or skill ceilings serves no use. That's all, gg. You don't have to be a snobby elitist to dislike LoL. A lot of the reaction here is in part to LoL being a seemingly omnipresent point of discussion, even in the SC2 sections. Some people go out of their way to bash the game as a reaction to this, but personally feel each to his own. That said I am fucking, 100% sick of LoL talk in every other thread when we should be talking about SC2 and other games that are you know, actually the point of TL. This is 100% of the reason why forums add new sections. If TL insists on putting its eggs in the DotA2 basket then LoL will continue to be discussed in random places. Period. There is a designated section for LoL... wake up and use it. Period. Yeah, a subsection of a section that's basically equivalent to "other". Between "Sports & Games" and "Health & Fitness". It's the biggest PC game in the world with a large competitive scene. That is the reality of the situation and not catering to that demographic with a prominent forum section, features, news, etc. results in what you are seeing. Go read the Ten Commandments again. Hell I'll post the relevant point to you Show nested quote +On September 13 2004 22:42 mensrea wrote:1. THIS IS OUR HOUSE You are our guests. We will make all attempts to treat everyone with due respect and to accommodate everyone's wishes as far as reasonably possible. But, this is a private site. We are not funded by any governments. This means we run the site the way we see fit. We are not obligated to observe anyone's notions of "free speech" or even "fairness." We try of course, and that's why we're consistently considered one of the best gaming sites on the web, and you are always free to give us suggestions ( Website Feedback Forum). But, we have our limits. If we don't like you, we simply ban you. This is their forums. If you don't like it, great. Its still their call who they want to prioritise.
Sorry, where in my posts do you see anything about my personal likes and dislikes? I don't think you are reading my posts properly.
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On November 27 2012 02:42 lolmlg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 02:40 Hassybaby wrote:On November 27 2012 02:32 lolmlg wrote:On November 27 2012 01:24 MiQ wrote:On November 27 2012 00:51 lolmlg wrote:On November 26 2012 12:22 Wombat_NI wrote:On November 26 2012 11:24 The Final Boss wrote:
I said I was done posting, but I guess I lied. I know that I am right, I know that DonKey_ is the only other sensible person here, and what I certainly know is that LoL is growing faster than any other game right now and it's going to go way farther than StarCraft 2 (which is becoming more and more stagnant) and DotA 2. You guys can keep your snobby elitist crap, I used to love watching StarCraft 2 and the community was great but it's really too bad that TL has become a bastion of bashing a game that is undoubtedly going to be more successful. It doesn't take "less skill," but rather different skills, and talking about a "perfect" game or skill ceilings serves no use. That's all, gg. You don't have to be a snobby elitist to dislike LoL. A lot of the reaction here is in part to LoL being a seemingly omnipresent point of discussion, even in the SC2 sections. Some people go out of their way to bash the game as a reaction to this, but personally feel each to his own. That said I am fucking, 100% sick of LoL talk in every other thread when we should be talking about SC2 and other games that are you know, actually the point of TL. This is 100% of the reason why forums add new sections. If TL insists on putting its eggs in the DotA2 basket then LoL will continue to be discussed in random places. Period. There is a designated section for LoL... wake up and use it. Period. Yeah, a subsection of a section that's basically equivalent to "other". Between "Sports & Games" and "Health & Fitness". It's the biggest PC game in the world with a large competitive scene. That is the reality of the situation and not catering to that demographic with a prominent forum section, features, news, etc. results in what you are seeing. Go read the Ten Commandments again. Hell I'll post the relevant point to you On September 13 2004 22:42 mensrea wrote:1. THIS IS OUR HOUSE You are our guests. We will make all attempts to treat everyone with due respect and to accommodate everyone's wishes as far as reasonably possible. But, this is a private site. We are not funded by any governments. This means we run the site the way we see fit. We are not obligated to observe anyone's notions of "free speech" or even "fairness." We try of course, and that's why we're consistently considered one of the best gaming sites on the web, and you are always free to give us suggestions ( Website Feedback Forum). But, we have our limits. If we don't like you, we simply ban you. This is their forums. If you don't like it, great. Its still their call who they want to prioritise. Sorry, where in my posts do you see anything about my personal likes and dislikes? I don't think you are reading my posts properly.
That's funny because i don't think you're posting properly. Why are you bringing up the site structuring being "flawed" in a thread about a player retiring?
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On November 27 2012 02:32 lolmlg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 01:24 MiQ wrote:On November 27 2012 00:51 lolmlg wrote:On November 26 2012 12:22 Wombat_NI wrote:On November 26 2012 11:24 The Final Boss wrote:
I said I was done posting, but I guess I lied. I know that I am right, I know that DonKey_ is the only other sensible person here, and what I certainly know is that LoL is growing faster than any other game right now and it's going to go way farther than StarCraft 2 (which is becoming more and more stagnant) and DotA 2. You guys can keep your snobby elitist crap, I used to love watching StarCraft 2 and the community was great but it's really too bad that TL has become a bastion of bashing a game that is undoubtedly going to be more successful. It doesn't take "less skill," but rather different skills, and talking about a "perfect" game or skill ceilings serves no use. That's all, gg. You don't have to be a snobby elitist to dislike LoL. A lot of the reaction here is in part to LoL being a seemingly omnipresent point of discussion, even in the SC2 sections. Some people go out of their way to bash the game as a reaction to this, but personally feel each to his own. That said I am fucking, 100% sick of LoL talk in every other thread when we should be talking about SC2 and other games that are you know, actually the point of TL. This is 100% of the reason why forums add new sections. If TL insists on putting its eggs in the DotA2 basket then LoL will continue to be discussed in random places. Period. There is a designated section for LoL... wake up and use it. Period. Yeah, a subsection of a section that's basically equivalent to "other". Between "Sports & Games" and "Health & Fitness". It's the biggest PC game in the world with a large competitive scene. That is the reality of the situation and not catering to that demographic with a prominent forum section, features, news, etc. results in what you are seeing.
Every other tech company that has chased competitors “numbers”(ie: iphone, Ipad, facebook, Itunes, WoW) has ended is spectacular failure, job loss and embarassment. Blizzard is doing its own thing and will do it well. Spending money trying to “get the people playing LoL” is just a recipe for failure.
Also, Riot was founded in 2006, released their first and only game in 2009. Blizzard has been around since 1994(or 1991 if you count older studios) and has released a total of 22 boxed products in that time, including the most successful MMO in history. WoW has over 10 million active users after ten years, after four $40 expansions. LoL has 32 million registered users after 3 years. Call me in 7 years from now to see if that game holds at that number.
Also TSL_inori was not very good and I am not shocked he "retired" when 100 kespa pros crashed on to the scene.
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On November 27 2012 02:42 lolmlg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 02:40 Hassybaby wrote:On November 27 2012 02:32 lolmlg wrote:On November 27 2012 01:24 MiQ wrote:On November 27 2012 00:51 lolmlg wrote:On November 26 2012 12:22 Wombat_NI wrote:On November 26 2012 11:24 The Final Boss wrote:
I said I was done posting, but I guess I lied. I know that I am right, I know that DonKey_ is the only other sensible person here, and what I certainly know is that LoL is growing faster than any other game right now and it's going to go way farther than StarCraft 2 (which is becoming more and more stagnant) and DotA 2. You guys can keep your snobby elitist crap, I used to love watching StarCraft 2 and the community was great but it's really too bad that TL has become a bastion of bashing a game that is undoubtedly going to be more successful. It doesn't take "less skill," but rather different skills, and talking about a "perfect" game or skill ceilings serves no use. That's all, gg. You don't have to be a snobby elitist to dislike LoL. A lot of the reaction here is in part to LoL being a seemingly omnipresent point of discussion, even in the SC2 sections. Some people go out of their way to bash the game as a reaction to this, but personally feel each to his own. That said I am fucking, 100% sick of LoL talk in every other thread when we should be talking about SC2 and other games that are you know, actually the point of TL. This is 100% of the reason why forums add new sections. If TL insists on putting its eggs in the DotA2 basket then LoL will continue to be discussed in random places. Period. There is a designated section for LoL... wake up and use it. Period. Yeah, a subsection of a section that's basically equivalent to "other". Between "Sports & Games" and "Health & Fitness". It's the biggest PC game in the world with a large competitive scene. That is the reality of the situation and not catering to that demographic with a prominent forum section, features, news, etc. results in what you are seeing. Go read the Ten Commandments again. Hell I'll post the relevant point to you On September 13 2004 22:42 mensrea wrote:1. THIS IS OUR HOUSE You are our guests. We will make all attempts to treat everyone with due respect and to accommodate everyone's wishes as far as reasonably possible. But, this is a private site. We are not funded by any governments. This means we run the site the way we see fit. We are not obligated to observe anyone's notions of "free speech" or even "fairness." We try of course, and that's why we're consistently considered one of the best gaming sites on the web, and you are always free to give us suggestions ( Website Feedback Forum). But, we have our limits. If we don't like you, we simply ban you. This is their forums. If you don't like it, great. Its still their call who they want to prioritise. Sorry, where in my posts do you see anything about my personal likes and dislikes? I don't think you are reading my posts properly.
Well you're talking about how it's expected to flow over into other sections even though there is a clear area for LoL discussion. guess what, that's not TL's fault, its people who bring it to areas where it doesn't belong.
Speaknig of things not belonging.... talking about TL's policy in a thread about a player retiring
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On November 27 2012 02:50 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 02:42 lolmlg wrote:On November 27 2012 02:40 Hassybaby wrote:On November 27 2012 02:32 lolmlg wrote:On November 27 2012 01:24 MiQ wrote:On November 27 2012 00:51 lolmlg wrote:On November 26 2012 12:22 Wombat_NI wrote:On November 26 2012 11:24 The Final Boss wrote:
I said I was done posting, but I guess I lied. I know that I am right, I know that DonKey_ is the only other sensible person here, and what I certainly know is that LoL is growing faster than any other game right now and it's going to go way farther than StarCraft 2 (which is becoming more and more stagnant) and DotA 2. You guys can keep your snobby elitist crap, I used to love watching StarCraft 2 and the community was great but it's really too bad that TL has become a bastion of bashing a game that is undoubtedly going to be more successful. It doesn't take "less skill," but rather different skills, and talking about a "perfect" game or skill ceilings serves no use. That's all, gg. You don't have to be a snobby elitist to dislike LoL. A lot of the reaction here is in part to LoL being a seemingly omnipresent point of discussion, even in the SC2 sections. Some people go out of their way to bash the game as a reaction to this, but personally feel each to his own. That said I am fucking, 100% sick of LoL talk in every other thread when we should be talking about SC2 and other games that are you know, actually the point of TL. This is 100% of the reason why forums add new sections. If TL insists on putting its eggs in the DotA2 basket then LoL will continue to be discussed in random places. Period. There is a designated section for LoL... wake up and use it. Period. Yeah, a subsection of a section that's basically equivalent to "other". Between "Sports & Games" and "Health & Fitness". It's the biggest PC game in the world with a large competitive scene. That is the reality of the situation and not catering to that demographic with a prominent forum section, features, news, etc. results in what you are seeing. Go read the Ten Commandments again. Hell I'll post the relevant point to you On September 13 2004 22:42 mensrea wrote:1. THIS IS OUR HOUSE You are our guests. We will make all attempts to treat everyone with due respect and to accommodate everyone's wishes as far as reasonably possible. But, this is a private site. We are not funded by any governments. This means we run the site the way we see fit. We are not obligated to observe anyone's notions of "free speech" or even "fairness." We try of course, and that's why we're consistently considered one of the best gaming sites on the web, and you are always free to give us suggestions ( Website Feedback Forum). But, we have our limits. If we don't like you, we simply ban you. This is their forums. If you don't like it, great. Its still their call who they want to prioritise. Sorry, where in my posts do you see anything about my personal likes and dislikes? I don't think you are reading my posts properly. That's funny because i don't think you're posting properly. Why are you bringing up the site structuring being "flawed" in a thread about a player retiring?
My post was a direct reply designed simply to give my opinion on why the thread was already off-topic, and now you've not only posted a completely irrelevant non-reply to that, but you're going carry on complaining as well. How does that make the thread better?
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On November 27 2012 02:54 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 02:42 lolmlg wrote:On November 27 2012 02:40 Hassybaby wrote:On November 27 2012 02:32 lolmlg wrote:On November 27 2012 01:24 MiQ wrote:On November 27 2012 00:51 lolmlg wrote:On November 26 2012 12:22 Wombat_NI wrote:On November 26 2012 11:24 The Final Boss wrote:
I said I was done posting, but I guess I lied. I know that I am right, I know that DonKey_ is the only other sensible person here, and what I certainly know is that LoL is growing faster than any other game right now and it's going to go way farther than StarCraft 2 (which is becoming more and more stagnant) and DotA 2. You guys can keep your snobby elitist crap, I used to love watching StarCraft 2 and the community was great but it's really too bad that TL has become a bastion of bashing a game that is undoubtedly going to be more successful. It doesn't take "less skill," but rather different skills, and talking about a "perfect" game or skill ceilings serves no use. That's all, gg. You don't have to be a snobby elitist to dislike LoL. A lot of the reaction here is in part to LoL being a seemingly omnipresent point of discussion, even in the SC2 sections. Some people go out of their way to bash the game as a reaction to this, but personally feel each to his own. That said I am fucking, 100% sick of LoL talk in every other thread when we should be talking about SC2 and other games that are you know, actually the point of TL. This is 100% of the reason why forums add new sections. If TL insists on putting its eggs in the DotA2 basket then LoL will continue to be discussed in random places. Period. There is a designated section for LoL... wake up and use it. Period. Yeah, a subsection of a section that's basically equivalent to "other". Between "Sports & Games" and "Health & Fitness". It's the biggest PC game in the world with a large competitive scene. That is the reality of the situation and not catering to that demographic with a prominent forum section, features, news, etc. results in what you are seeing. Go read the Ten Commandments again. Hell I'll post the relevant point to you On September 13 2004 22:42 mensrea wrote:1. THIS IS OUR HOUSE You are our guests. We will make all attempts to treat everyone with due respect and to accommodate everyone's wishes as far as reasonably possible. But, this is a private site. We are not funded by any governments. This means we run the site the way we see fit. We are not obligated to observe anyone's notions of "free speech" or even "fairness." We try of course, and that's why we're consistently considered one of the best gaming sites on the web, and you are always free to give us suggestions ( Website Feedback Forum). But, we have our limits. If we don't like you, we simply ban you. This is their forums. If you don't like it, great. Its still their call who they want to prioritise. Sorry, where in my posts do you see anything about my personal likes and dislikes? I don't think you are reading my posts properly. Well you're talking about how it's expected to flow over into other sections even though there is a clear area for LoL discussion. guess what, that's not TL's fault, its people who bring it to areas where it doesn't belong. Speaknig of things not belonging.... talking about TL's policy in a thread about a player retiring
What does anyone being at fault have to do with it though? It's really irrelevant. We're talking about a simple matter of expectations and crowd control.
And let's be real now, very few people remember Inori and the conversation has long since changed direction. Find someone on page 2 to blame because people posting sardonic nonsense in response to my simple statements aren't improving the situation.
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On November 27 2012 02:52 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 02:32 lolmlg wrote:On November 27 2012 01:24 MiQ wrote:On November 27 2012 00:51 lolmlg wrote:On November 26 2012 12:22 Wombat_NI wrote:On November 26 2012 11:24 The Final Boss wrote:
I said I was done posting, but I guess I lied. I know that I am right, I know that DonKey_ is the only other sensible person here, and what I certainly know is that LoL is growing faster than any other game right now and it's going to go way farther than StarCraft 2 (which is becoming more and more stagnant) and DotA 2. You guys can keep your snobby elitist crap, I used to love watching StarCraft 2 and the community was great but it's really too bad that TL has become a bastion of bashing a game that is undoubtedly going to be more successful. It doesn't take "less skill," but rather different skills, and talking about a "perfect" game or skill ceilings serves no use. That's all, gg. You don't have to be a snobby elitist to dislike LoL. A lot of the reaction here is in part to LoL being a seemingly omnipresent point of discussion, even in the SC2 sections. Some people go out of their way to bash the game as a reaction to this, but personally feel each to his own. That said I am fucking, 100% sick of LoL talk in every other thread when we should be talking about SC2 and other games that are you know, actually the point of TL. This is 100% of the reason why forums add new sections. If TL insists on putting its eggs in the DotA2 basket then LoL will continue to be discussed in random places. Period. There is a designated section for LoL... wake up and use it. Period. Yeah, a subsection of a section that's basically equivalent to "other". Between "Sports & Games" and "Health & Fitness". It's the biggest PC game in the world with a large competitive scene. That is the reality of the situation and not catering to that demographic with a prominent forum section, features, news, etc. results in what you are seeing. Every other tech company that has chased competitors “numbers”(ie: iphone, Ipad, facebook, Itunes, WoW) has ended is spectacular failure, job loss and embarassment. Blizzard is doing its own thing and will do it well. Spending money trying to “get the people playing LoL” is just a recipe for failure. Also, Riot was founded in 2006, released their first and only game in 2009. Blizzard has been around since 1994(or 1991 if you count older studios) and has released a total of 22 boxed products in that time, including the most successful MMO in history. WoW has over 10 million active users after ten years, after four $40 expansions. LoL has 32 million registered users after 3 years. Call me in 7 years from now to see if that game holds at that number. Also TSL_inori was not very good and I am not shocked he "retired" when 100 kespa pros crashed on to the scene.
Well for one thing, we aren't talking about Blizzard. If we're talking about MOBAs then the two players are LoL and DotA2, the latter of which is based on a community mod for a Blizzard game and is being developed by Valve.
Secondly, people are already playing LoL. Earlier this year it was found to be the most played PC game in the world by a large margin if I remember correctly.
If you want to talk about playing catchup, DotA2 is playing catchup with LoL. It isn't doing much to differentiate itself and people want it to somehow take over the MOBA scene.
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On November 27 2012 03:03 lolmlg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 02:54 Hassybaby wrote:On November 27 2012 02:42 lolmlg wrote:On November 27 2012 02:40 Hassybaby wrote:On November 27 2012 02:32 lolmlg wrote:On November 27 2012 01:24 MiQ wrote:On November 27 2012 00:51 lolmlg wrote:On November 26 2012 12:22 Wombat_NI wrote:On November 26 2012 11:24 The Final Boss wrote:
I said I was done posting, but I guess I lied. I know that I am right, I know that DonKey_ is the only other sensible person here, and what I certainly know is that LoL is growing faster than any other game right now and it's going to go way farther than StarCraft 2 (which is becoming more and more stagnant) and DotA 2. You guys can keep your snobby elitist crap, I used to love watching StarCraft 2 and the community was great but it's really too bad that TL has become a bastion of bashing a game that is undoubtedly going to be more successful. It doesn't take "less skill," but rather different skills, and talking about a "perfect" game or skill ceilings serves no use. That's all, gg. You don't have to be a snobby elitist to dislike LoL. A lot of the reaction here is in part to LoL being a seemingly omnipresent point of discussion, even in the SC2 sections. Some people go out of their way to bash the game as a reaction to this, but personally feel each to his own. That said I am fucking, 100% sick of LoL talk in every other thread when we should be talking about SC2 and other games that are you know, actually the point of TL. This is 100% of the reason why forums add new sections. If TL insists on putting its eggs in the DotA2 basket then LoL will continue to be discussed in random places. Period. There is a designated section for LoL... wake up and use it. Period. Yeah, a subsection of a section that's basically equivalent to "other". Between "Sports & Games" and "Health & Fitness". It's the biggest PC game in the world with a large competitive scene. That is the reality of the situation and not catering to that demographic with a prominent forum section, features, news, etc. results in what you are seeing. Go read the Ten Commandments again. Hell I'll post the relevant point to you On September 13 2004 22:42 mensrea wrote:1. THIS IS OUR HOUSE You are our guests. We will make all attempts to treat everyone with due respect and to accommodate everyone's wishes as far as reasonably possible. But, this is a private site. We are not funded by any governments. This means we run the site the way we see fit. We are not obligated to observe anyone's notions of "free speech" or even "fairness." We try of course, and that's why we're consistently considered one of the best gaming sites on the web, and you are always free to give us suggestions ( Website Feedback Forum). But, we have our limits. If we don't like you, we simply ban you. This is their forums. If you don't like it, great. Its still their call who they want to prioritise. Sorry, where in my posts do you see anything about my personal likes and dislikes? I don't think you are reading my posts properly. Well you're talking about how it's expected to flow over into other sections even though there is a clear area for LoL discussion. guess what, that's not TL's fault, its people who bring it to areas where it doesn't belong. Speaknig of things not belonging.... talking about TL's policy in a thread about a player retiring What does anyone being at fault have to do with it though? It's really irrelevant. We're talking about a simple matter of expectations and crowd control. And let's be real now, very few people remember Inori and the conversation has long since changed direction. Find someone on page 2 to blame because people posting sardonic nonsense in response to my simple statements aren't improving the situation.
Neither are your statements continuing this pointless discussion in the wrong area. Walk away
That goes to everyone esle as well. This isn't about LoL vs anything else. This isn't about TL's stances. This is about a player retiring. Keep it at that
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On November 27 2012 03:13 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 03:03 lolmlg wrote:On November 27 2012 02:54 Hassybaby wrote:On November 27 2012 02:42 lolmlg wrote:On November 27 2012 02:40 Hassybaby wrote:On November 27 2012 02:32 lolmlg wrote:On November 27 2012 01:24 MiQ wrote:On November 27 2012 00:51 lolmlg wrote:On November 26 2012 12:22 Wombat_NI wrote:On November 26 2012 11:24 The Final Boss wrote:
I said I was done posting, but I guess I lied. I know that I am right, I know that DonKey_ is the only other sensible person here, and what I certainly know is that LoL is growing faster than any other game right now and it's going to go way farther than StarCraft 2 (which is becoming more and more stagnant) and DotA 2. You guys can keep your snobby elitist crap, I used to love watching StarCraft 2 and the community was great but it's really too bad that TL has become a bastion of bashing a game that is undoubtedly going to be more successful. It doesn't take "less skill," but rather different skills, and talking about a "perfect" game or skill ceilings serves no use. That's all, gg. You don't have to be a snobby elitist to dislike LoL. A lot of the reaction here is in part to LoL being a seemingly omnipresent point of discussion, even in the SC2 sections. Some people go out of their way to bash the game as a reaction to this, but personally feel each to his own. That said I am fucking, 100% sick of LoL talk in every other thread when we should be talking about SC2 and other games that are you know, actually the point of TL. This is 100% of the reason why forums add new sections. If TL insists on putting its eggs in the DotA2 basket then LoL will continue to be discussed in random places. Period. There is a designated section for LoL... wake up and use it. Period. Yeah, a subsection of a section that's basically equivalent to "other". Between "Sports & Games" and "Health & Fitness". It's the biggest PC game in the world with a large competitive scene. That is the reality of the situation and not catering to that demographic with a prominent forum section, features, news, etc. results in what you are seeing. Go read the Ten Commandments again. Hell I'll post the relevant point to you On September 13 2004 22:42 mensrea wrote:1. THIS IS OUR HOUSE You are our guests. We will make all attempts to treat everyone with due respect and to accommodate everyone's wishes as far as reasonably possible. But, this is a private site. We are not funded by any governments. This means we run the site the way we see fit. We are not obligated to observe anyone's notions of "free speech" or even "fairness." We try of course, and that's why we're consistently considered one of the best gaming sites on the web, and you are always free to give us suggestions ( Website Feedback Forum). But, we have our limits. If we don't like you, we simply ban you. This is their forums. If you don't like it, great. Its still their call who they want to prioritise. Sorry, where in my posts do you see anything about my personal likes and dislikes? I don't think you are reading my posts properly. Well you're talking about how it's expected to flow over into other sections even though there is a clear area for LoL discussion. guess what, that's not TL's fault, its people who bring it to areas where it doesn't belong. Speaknig of things not belonging.... talking about TL's policy in a thread about a player retiring What does anyone being at fault have to do with it though? It's really irrelevant. We're talking about a simple matter of expectations and crowd control. And let's be real now, very few people remember Inori and the conversation has long since changed direction. Find someone on page 2 to blame because people posting sardonic nonsense in response to my simple statements aren't improving the situation. Neither are your statements continuing this pointless discussion in the wrong area. Walk away That goes to everyone esle as well. This isn't about LoL vs anything else. This isn't about TL's stances. This is about a player retiring. Keep it at that
No issues with that. I didn't have anything else to say about it anyway, the first post was meant to stand by itself. I just wasn't expecting people to be confused.
As I mentioned, I do remember little about Inori. But I would wish him luck in whatever he chooses to do.
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On November 27 2012 02:32 lolmlg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 01:24 MiQ wrote:On November 27 2012 00:51 lolmlg wrote:On November 26 2012 12:22 Wombat_NI wrote:On November 26 2012 11:24 The Final Boss wrote:
I said I was done posting, but I guess I lied. I know that I am right, I know that DonKey_ is the only other sensible person here, and what I certainly know is that LoL is growing faster than any other game right now and it's going to go way farther than StarCraft 2 (which is becoming more and more stagnant) and DotA 2. You guys can keep your snobby elitist crap, I used to love watching StarCraft 2 and the community was great but it's really too bad that TL has become a bastion of bashing a game that is undoubtedly going to be more successful. It doesn't take "less skill," but rather different skills, and talking about a "perfect" game or skill ceilings serves no use. That's all, gg. You don't have to be a snobby elitist to dislike LoL. A lot of the reaction here is in part to LoL being a seemingly omnipresent point of discussion, even in the SC2 sections. Some people go out of their way to bash the game as a reaction to this, but personally feel each to his own. That said I am fucking, 100% sick of LoL talk in every other thread when we should be talking about SC2 and other games that are you know, actually the point of TL. This is 100% of the reason why forums add new sections. If TL insists on putting its eggs in the DotA2 basket then LoL will continue to be discussed in random places. Period. There is a designated section for LoL... wake up and use it. Period. Yeah, a subsection of a section that's basically equivalent to "other". Between "Sports & Games" and "Health & Fitness". It's the biggest PC game in the world with a large competitive scene. That is the reality of the situation and not catering to that demographic with a prominent forum section, features, news, etc. results in what you are seeing.
Surely there must be other forums on the internet that cater to the lol audience? Because there is no responsibility whatsoever by TL to cover any game, it's the TL staff (and Nazgul as owner of this site with the last word) that decides what games to cover. If you don't agree with that, well, you could ask them nicely and if enough people do it, maybe you can change their mind or, second option, just go to another site that covers lol in the way you want. Infesting other games' threads with constant pestering is no solution however.
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On November 27 2012 02:32 lolmlg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 01:24 MiQ wrote:On November 27 2012 00:51 lolmlg wrote:On November 26 2012 12:22 Wombat_NI wrote:On November 26 2012 11:24 The Final Boss wrote:
I said I was done posting, but I guess I lied. I know that I am right, I know that DonKey_ is the only other sensible person here, and what I certainly know is that LoL is growing faster than any other game right now and it's going to go way farther than StarCraft 2 (which is becoming more and more stagnant) and DotA 2. You guys can keep your snobby elitist crap, I used to love watching StarCraft 2 and the community was great but it's really too bad that TL has become a bastion of bashing a game that is undoubtedly going to be more successful. It doesn't take "less skill," but rather different skills, and talking about a "perfect" game or skill ceilings serves no use. That's all, gg. You don't have to be a snobby elitist to dislike LoL. A lot of the reaction here is in part to LoL being a seemingly omnipresent point of discussion, even in the SC2 sections. Some people go out of their way to bash the game as a reaction to this, but personally feel each to his own. That said I am fucking, 100% sick of LoL talk in every other thread when we should be talking about SC2 and other games that are you know, actually the point of TL. This is 100% of the reason why forums add new sections. If TL insists on putting its eggs in the DotA2 basket then LoL will continue to be discussed in random places. Period. There is a designated section for LoL... wake up and use it. Period. Yeah, a subsection of a section that's basically equivalent to "other". Between "Sports & Games" and "Health & Fitness". It's the biggest PC game in the world with a large competitive scene. That is the reality of the situation and not catering to that demographic with a prominent forum section, features, news, etc. results in what you are seeing.
Well if the game is what you say it is I am sure there are plenty of forums out there to talk bout said game. Catch my drift?
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On November 23 2012 18:20 JonIrenicus wrote:
He did the best choice. . He would be a fool not to go full time on lol.
Sc2 is fucked up, and LoL is constantly growing.
This is the why no one can criticize also Destiny for the choice he made.
No one can critcize Destiny because he was never good at Starcraft 2 lol
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inori means prayer in japanese does it not?
I inoru he does well :D
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