• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:21
CEST 03:21
KST 10:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash2[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy9ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool48Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
Pros React To: SoulKey vs Ample ASL21 General Discussion [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site KK Platform will provide 1 million CNY
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group D [ASL21] Ro24 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group B
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Darkest Dungeon Path of Exile
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5342 users

Eclypsia cheating on stream audience - Page 18

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 16 17 18 All
Purple Haze
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom200 Posts
October 11 2012 12:25 GMT
#341
On October 11 2012 09:37 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 06:48 coyote37 wrote:
hi guys. Im' coyote motion designer and movie maker in E-SPORT. I'm usually known for my SUPER 15 and Wings of dreams videos.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369676#1

Just to let you know i was working for ECLYPSIA as freelancer for almost 3 month. Doing stream intro, cup presentation, custom maps etc...

Until now, i'm still waiting paiement from EC....

I'm not a fool i know i'll never get paid for my work ofc. But saying just to to let you know what kind of ppl are managing EC...

Hope this shit will note damage the E-SPORT credibility.
Peace!
coyote.

edit: here is the last time i heard and speak about EC. just don't waste more time.

Not to cast the doubt on your affirmation but every other team around here has one day or another use freelancer by making them believe they would be paid after some time. If you signed a contract and weren't paid, I suggest you take the case to the prud'hommes otherwise you just learned that as a freelancer you have to look out for yourself and that includes not doing anything for free.

Trying to separate the issues isn't easy for the common forum dweller but your post didn't solve anything except shooting on the ambulance (if you know what I mean)


You can say that it's the fault of the person for doing the work without a contract, but it still gives an insight into the character of the people involved if they are happy to take your work but feel no obligation to pay you for it.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
October 11 2012 12:41 GMT
#342
On October 11 2012 21:25 Purple Haze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 09:37 Otolia wrote:
On October 11 2012 06:48 coyote37 wrote:
hi guys. Im' coyote motion designer and movie maker in E-SPORT. I'm usually known for my SUPER 15 and Wings of dreams videos.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369676#1

Just to let you know i was working for ECLYPSIA as freelancer for almost 3 month. Doing stream intro, cup presentation, custom maps etc...

Until now, i'm still waiting paiement from EC....

I'm not a fool i know i'll never get paid for my work ofc. But saying just to to let you know what kind of ppl are managing EC...

Hope this shit will note damage the E-SPORT credibility.
Peace!
coyote.

edit: here is the last time i heard and speak about EC. just don't waste more time.

Not to cast the doubt on your affirmation but every other team around here has one day or another use freelancer by making them believe they would be paid after some time. If you signed a contract and weren't paid, I suggest you take the case to the prud'hommes otherwise you just learned that as a freelancer you have to look out for yourself and that includes not doing anything for free.

Trying to separate the issues isn't easy for the common forum dweller but your post didn't solve anything except shooting on the ambulance (if you know what I mean)


You can say that it's the fault of the person for doing the work without a contract, but it still gives an insight into the character of the people involved if they are happy to take your work but feel no obligation to pay you for it.


Yup, go ahead and judge character before hearing the other side of the story. It's hard to learn lessons from past situations after all.
Chloroplaste
Profile Joined February 2011
France281 Posts
October 11 2012 13:13 GMT
#343
On October 11 2012 06:52 Khonsou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 06:48 coyote37 wrote:
hi guys. Im' coyote motion designer and movie maker in E-SPORT. I'm usually known for my SUPER 15 and Wings of dreams videos.

Just to let you know i was working for ECLYPSIA as freelancer for almost 3 month. Doing stream intro, cup presentation, custom maps etc...

Until now, i'm still waiting paiement from EC....

I'm not a fool i know i'll never get paid for my work ofc. But saying just to to let you know what kind of ppl are managing EC...

Hope this shit will note damage the E-SPORT credibility.
Peace!
coyote.

Maybe you should link what content you've done because else it's really just a statement from a TL poster.



Who doesn't know Coyote =) ?
Wings of Dream (last fly)
Super 15, Super 15 Extended (with XTRM)
Dream Note (girls can play)
Best sc2 videomaker man.

Again shame on Eclypsia for killing esport and make all webtv viewers number pointless for sponsor search.
You better stop this right now.
LeSioN
Profile Joined November 2010
United States325 Posts
October 11 2012 13:29 GMT
#344
who cares, they are trying to make it in a tight market with no real financial backing. bravo to them for thinking outside the box to do what they love. I mean honestly, who creates an esports team simply to "cash in"? if this "trick" hurts twitch's ad sales then they will put an end to it, otherwise who cares.
Someone needs to tell the truth, but it shouldn't be my job.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
October 11 2012 13:54 GMT
#345
On October 11 2012 22:13 Chloroplaste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 06:52 Khonsou wrote:
On October 11 2012 06:48 coyote37 wrote:
hi guys. Im' coyote motion designer and movie maker in E-SPORT. I'm usually known for my SUPER 15 and Wings of dreams videos.

Just to let you know i was working for ECLYPSIA as freelancer for almost 3 month. Doing stream intro, cup presentation, custom maps etc...

Until now, i'm still waiting paiement from EC....

I'm not a fool i know i'll never get paid for my work ofc. But saying just to to let you know what kind of ppl are managing EC...

Hope this shit will note damage the E-SPORT credibility.
Peace!
coyote.

Maybe you should link what content you've done because else it's really just a statement from a TL poster.



Who doesn't know Coyote =) ?

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4WDfEcn0xc Wings of Dream (last fly)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0B_oiJTcDI&feature=plcp Super 15, Super 15 Extended (with XTRM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMw-lUz16BE Dream Note (girls can play)
Best sc2 videomaker man.

Again shame on Eclypsia for killing esport and make all webtv viewers number pointless for sponsor search.
You better stop this right now.


I didn't know Coyote, now I do. That was fantastic work. Especially the one based on Cowboy Bebop, it's easy to just mimic something good, but he had added so much work and detail, and yet it work together with the original. Wow.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
October 11 2012 14:35 GMT
#346
Don't know what is worse. Eclypsia doing this, or the people saying they see nothing wrong with it. I am leaning on the latter.
LiangHao
Purple Haze
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom200 Posts
October 11 2012 14:55 GMT
#347
On October 11 2012 21:41 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 21:25 Purple Haze wrote:
On October 11 2012 09:37 Otolia wrote:
On October 11 2012 06:48 coyote37 wrote:
hi guys. Im' coyote motion designer and movie maker in E-SPORT. I'm usually known for my SUPER 15 and Wings of dreams videos.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369676#1

Just to let you know i was working for ECLYPSIA as freelancer for almost 3 month. Doing stream intro, cup presentation, custom maps etc...

Until now, i'm still waiting paiement from EC....

I'm not a fool i know i'll never get paid for my work ofc. But saying just to to let you know what kind of ppl are managing EC...

Hope this shit will note damage the E-SPORT credibility.
Peace!
coyote.

edit: here is the last time i heard and speak about EC. just don't waste more time.

Not to cast the doubt on your affirmation but every other team around here has one day or another use freelancer by making them believe they would be paid after some time. If you signed a contract and weren't paid, I suggest you take the case to the prud'hommes otherwise you just learned that as a freelancer you have to look out for yourself and that includes not doing anything for free.

Trying to separate the issues isn't easy for the common forum dweller but your post didn't solve anything except shooting on the ambulance (if you know what I mean)


You can say that it's the fault of the person for doing the work without a contract, but it still gives an insight into the character of the people involved if they are happy to take your work but feel no obligation to pay you for it.


Yup, go ahead and judge character before hearing the other side of the story. It's hard to learn lessons from past situations after all.


The guy worked for them (as did I) and was never payed for it. What other side of the story is there going to be?
Polygamy
Profile Joined January 2010
Austria1114 Posts
October 11 2012 15:01 GMT
#348
It is on right now.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
October 11 2012 15:05 GMT
#349
On October 11 2012 06:39 crms wrote:
Seems like a valid advertising strategy. It's more shocking that ads like these are allowed. Makes me feel much better that I use adblock on 99% of websites, I can't believe you are allowed to embed livestreams in adspace, unreal.


Exactly. While what they're doing is technically okay, it's baffling that third-party advertisers would even allow the loading of embed streams. That kind of bandwidth usage when unasked for could be extremely damaging, especially to mobiles with a data plan.
Prev 1 16 17 18 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 39m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 61
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 5199
Artosis 733
Bale 9
Dota 2
monkeys_forever361
Other Games
summit1g12072
Grubby838
C9.Mang0387
WinterStarcraft214
JimRising 202
Maynarde101
Mew2King69
ViBE32
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH276
• davetesta1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra1129
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 39m
Afreeca Starleague
8h 39m
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
9h 39m
Monday Night Weeklies
14h 39m
Replay Cast
22h 39m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 8h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 8h
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
PiGosaur Cup
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
OSC
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
TriGGeR vs Cure
ByuN vs Rogue
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Maru vs MaxPax
BSL
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
Escore Tournament S2: W1
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.