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Moonsalt
Profile Joined May 2011
267 Posts
September 11 2012 13:19 GMT
#381
+ Show Spoiler +
Also taldarim has it's rocks removed at the 3rd!


God, I've been blessed!
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
September 11 2012 13:25 GMT
#382
The season is going to close in about 3 hours I think.

BTW, how long does it last normally? Just a few hours? Or....a week? ><
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
September 11 2012 13:27 GMT
#383
On September 11 2012 22:25 dynwar7 wrote:
The season is going to close in about 3 hours I think.

BTW, how long does it last normally? Just a few hours? Or....a week? ><


What, the downtime? New season should be up soon, it is scheduled to start today,
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
wcLLg
Profile Joined December 2011
United States281 Posts
September 11 2012 13:28 GMT
#384
this is aweseom!
11110000011111000
Mindflow
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (South)320 Posts
September 11 2012 14:13 GMT
#385
anyone have ETA on when the season is finishing on NA servers?
MicroTastiC
Profile Joined January 2011
375 Posts
September 11 2012 14:16 GMT
#386
1PM Eastern Time.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
September 11 2012 14:18 GMT
#387
On September 11 2012 23:13 Mindflow wrote:
anyone have ETA on when the season is finishing on NA servers?

I would imagine early afternoon. I am surprised they didn't implement it over night to be honest. There was also some site maintenance being done on Battle.net the site proper as well this morning. I suppose Blizzard has some other stuff they were rolling out too.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 14:33:10
September 11 2012 14:31 GMT
#388
It has been so long since I played SCII. I wonder if I will play next season.
I don't think the tier removal will do much. Not many spend their bonuspool, and probably the divisions won't be balanced at all. I don't think that is possible without changing players during the season.
I had a good night of sleep.
Mindflow
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (South)320 Posts
September 11 2012 14:33 GMT
#389
On September 11 2012 23:31 Koshi wrote:
It has been so long since I played SCII. I wonder if I will play next season.
I don't think the tier removal will do much. Not many spend their bonuspool, and probably the divisions won't be balanced at all. I don't think that is possible without changing players during the season.


Tis to be a good season.
Voreau
Profile Joined June 2011
United States192 Posts
September 11 2012 15:08 GMT
#390
On September 11 2012 23:13 Mindflow wrote:
anyone have ETA on when the season is finishing on NA servers?


Season 4 is now live on NA.
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
September 11 2012 15:11 GMT
#391
that was quick ...just happened between games
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46128 Posts
September 11 2012 15:13 GMT
#392
On September 12 2012 00:08 Voreau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 23:13 Mindflow wrote:
anyone have ETA on when the season is finishing on NA servers?


Season 4 is now live on NA.


I can confirm this
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
AcesAnoka
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium262 Posts
September 11 2012 15:13 GMT
#393
Yes! finally i can unveto tal'darim
masters terran eu
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
September 11 2012 15:14 GMT
#394
On September 12 2012 00:13 AcesAnoka wrote:
Yes! finally i can unveto tal'darim



The rocks were removed before the new season actually ^^.
Cereal
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
September 11 2012 15:16 GMT
#395
On September 12 2012 00:11 ToguRo wrote:
that was quick ...just happened between games


Yeah, weekly maintenance was canceled this week for SC2 and D3, so the season roll was instant.
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pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 15:20:27
September 11 2012 15:16 GMT
#396
On September 11 2012 23:31 Koshi wrote:
It has been so long since I played SCII. I wonder if I will play next season.
I don't think the tier removal will do much. Not many spend their bonuspool, and probably the divisions won't be balanced at all. I don't think that is possible without changing players during the season.


Will do much for what.. ? So what people dont use bonus pool ? What bonus pool have to do with that disscusion ? I dont get it.
Divisions will be now balanced perfectly , it will be end of diamond players that have 700-800 points and was in TOP 5 in division , and then they write they are top diamond players.. when in other divsion top 10 diamond players was siting at 1200 , or even more points.

Now you gonna know your real position in diamond for example , and all that players that was top 5 with 800 points will be maby in top 30 or even under 30 place.
It is good because someone who hit top 5 with 700-800 points in "bad" diamond division , was thinking that he is near master skill lv , and that is not true.. he just was in low tier diamond division.

Dont know how you thinking , but I for example wanna know my real position in diamond league.
SC 2 -LingsLover- EU -- Jaedong , NesTea , Nerchio , DRG , Moon , Oz , Tarson , Scarlett -- Dota 2 Pallad EU- NaVi - LGD
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
September 11 2012 15:25 GMT
#397
Another season of lackluster maps. Incredibly frustrating. Put back in Metropolis at the VERY LEAST.

Meanwhile, atrocities like Shakura's remain alive and well. Pathetic...
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
ZwuckeL
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany563 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 15:31:42
September 11 2012 15:28 GMT
#398
On September 12 2012 00:16 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 23:31 Koshi wrote:
It has been so long since I played SCII. I wonder if I will play next season.
I don't think the tier removal will do much. Not many spend their bonuspool, and probably the divisions won't be balanced at all. I don't think that is possible without changing players during the season.


Will do much for what.. ? So what people dont use bonus pool ? What bonus pool have to do with that disscusion ? I dont get it.
Divisions will be now balanced perfectly , it will be end of diamond players that have 700-800 points and was in TOP 5 in division , and then they write they are top diamond players.. when in other divsion top 10 diamond players was siting at 1200 , or even more points.

Now you gonna know your real position in diamond for example , and all that players that was top 5 with 800 points will be maby in top 30 or even under 30 place.
It is good because someone who hit top 5 with 700-800 points in "bad" diamond division , was thinking that he is near master skill lv , and that is not true.. he just was in low tier diamond division.

Dont know how you thinking , but I for example wanna know my real position in diamond league.


You haven't understood what tiers were even about. Why is everyone spreading this kind of completley false information?

These scenarios you described, where divisions exist that will have Top 5 players at 800 points, and other divisions where top 5 is at 1200, will still exist. Removing tiers won't effect this circumstance in any way.

Removing tiers means that a 1200 diamond player will be pretty much as good as another diamond player at 1200 points. Nothing more.

There will still be weak divisions where you can become top 8 without having lots of points compared to the other divisions.

edit. to clear things up, prior to the change, lower tiered players got "free points" (offsets) to their points added so that it looked as if they were evenly rated as higher tiered players, but in fact were very lower skilled than the high ones. THUS you couldn't compare player skills by their ladder points at leagues under master. Only this is possible now.
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 15:38:42
September 11 2012 15:32 GMT
#399
On September 12 2012 00:28 ZwuckeL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 00:16 pallad wrote:
On September 11 2012 23:31 Koshi wrote:
It has been so long since I played SCII. I wonder if I will play next season.
I don't think the tier removal will do much. Not many spend their bonuspool, and probably the divisions won't be balanced at all. I don't think that is possible without changing players during the season.


Will do much for what.. ? So what people dont use bonus pool ? What bonus pool have to do with that disscusion ? I dont get it.
Divisions will be now balanced perfectly , it will be end of diamond players that have 700-800 points and was in TOP 5 in division , and then they write they are top diamond players.. when in other divsion top 10 diamond players was siting at 1200 , or even more points.

Now you gonna know your real position in diamond for example , and all that players that was top 5 with 800 points will be maby in top 30 or even under 30 place.
It is good because someone who hit top 5 with 700-800 points in "bad" diamond division , was thinking that he is near master skill lv , and that is not true.. he just was in low tier diamond division.

Dont know how you thinking , but I for example wanna know my real position in diamond league.


You haven't understood what tiers were even about. Why is everyone spreading this kind of completley false information?

These scenarios you described, where divisions exist that will have Top 5 players at 800 points, and other divisions where top 5 is at 1200, will still exist. Removing tiers won't effect this circumstance in any way.

Removing tiers means that a 1200 diamond player will be pretty much as good as another diamond player at 1200 points. Nothing more.

There will still be weak divisions where you can become top 8 without having lots of points compared to the other divisions.

edit. to clear things up, prior to the change, lower tiered players got "free points" (offsets) to their points added so that it looked as if they were evenly rated as higher tiered players, but in fact were very lower skilled than the high ones


Sorry sir , but person that dont understand this is you. And you are wrong. Now players will be mixed , no good/bad division anymore.

"Ladder Tier Removal
Currently not all divisions within a League are created equal. Individual divisions are actually assigned to different "tiers", and players are assigned to tiers based on skill. This system hasn't been very transparent, making it to determine your next promotion. For example, if you're in a lower tiered Diamond division, just getting to Rank 1 doesn't necessarily mean you'll see a promotion soon.


With the goal of increasing transparency for ladder players, we're removing tiers from the ladder with the commencement of 2012 Season 4.

The removal of tiers from all leagues will allow players to better gauge exactly where they're at on the ladder and how far away they are from the next league.

After this change, climbing to (for example) Rank 2 Diamond will mean that you are in the top 2% of all Diamond players, and you are very close to moving into the Master League. Similarly, Rank 50 Platinum is in the top 50% in the Platinum league, and so forth.

We'll be examining how well this works over the course of the coming season, and make a determination if we'll keep the system for the long term or make further adjustments, if needed.

Good luck, have fun!"


Its clear for me ...IF you are in top 10 diamond you are in top 10% diamond players in region so .. going by your logic.. someone with 800 points and rank 4-5 is in top 5 % players ? When other divisions have top 10 with 1200+ points ?
Try to think..
SC 2 -LingsLover- EU -- Jaedong , NesTea , Nerchio , DRG , Moon , Oz , Tarson , Scarlett -- Dota 2 Pallad EU- NaVi - LGD
ZwuckeL
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany563 Posts
September 11 2012 15:36 GMT
#400
On September 12 2012 00:32 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 00:28 ZwuckeL wrote:
On September 12 2012 00:16 pallad wrote:
On September 11 2012 23:31 Koshi wrote:
It has been so long since I played SCII. I wonder if I will play next season.
I don't think the tier removal will do much. Not many spend their bonuspool, and probably the divisions won't be balanced at all. I don't think that is possible without changing players during the season.


Will do much for what.. ? So what people dont use bonus pool ? What bonus pool have to do with that disscusion ? I dont get it.
Divisions will be now balanced perfectly , it will be end of diamond players that have 700-800 points and was in TOP 5 in division , and then they write they are top diamond players.. when in other divsion top 10 diamond players was siting at 1200 , or even more points.

Now you gonna know your real position in diamond for example , and all that players that was top 5 with 800 points will be maby in top 30 or even under 30 place.
It is good because someone who hit top 5 with 700-800 points in "bad" diamond division , was thinking that he is near master skill lv , and that is not true.. he just was in low tier diamond division.

Dont know how you thinking , but I for example wanna know my real position in diamond league.


You haven't understood what tiers were even about. Why is everyone spreading this kind of completley false information?

These scenarios you described, where divisions exist that will have Top 5 players at 800 points, and other divisions where top 5 is at 1200, will still exist. Removing tiers won't effect this circumstance in any way.

Removing tiers means that a 1200 diamond player will be pretty much as good as another diamond player at 1200 points. Nothing more.

There will still be weak divisions where you can become top 8 without having lots of points compared to the other divisions.

edit. to clear things up, prior to the change, lower tiered players got "free points" (offsets) to their points added so that it looked as if they were evenly rated as higher tiered players, but in fact were very lower skilled than the high ones


Sorry sir , but person that dont understand this is you. And you are wrong. Now players will be mixed , no good/bad division anymore.


There was not a single wording on this by Blizzard. If they start filling the divisions by player skill instead of "first come, first serve" now, this was 100% unannounced. I'm pretty sure Blizzard would have announced such a change. Which they didn't
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