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Season 8 Lock and new Ladder changes incoming - Page 18

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Pizzalegs
Profile Joined September 2012
Ireland2 Posts
September 09 2012 21:57 GMT
#341
Seems good, always found the tier system confusing.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
September 09 2012 22:00 GMT
#342
I like the new system. I can't wait for next season
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ke_ivan
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore374 Posts
September 10 2012 04:11 GMT
#343
nice... a bronze player could now possibly beat a GM lol
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
September 10 2012 04:17 GMT
#344
On September 10 2012 13:11 ke_ivan wrote:
nice... a bronze player could now possibly beat a GM lol

Bronze players playing GM's has actually happened O_o
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
SEA KarMa
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia452 Posts
September 10 2012 09:10 GMT
#345
now we need to show the win/losses again. Not only do we need that, but we also need race win/loss in 1v1 as to see which matchups we are weak against. It should be adding statistics (i.e. average game length) not removing them!
"terrible, terrible damage". terrible, terrible design.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
September 10 2012 10:06 GMT
#346
On September 08 2012 02:49 Targe wrote:
That's an awesome update, they aren't giving us elo or mmr rankings but this will keep me happy!

I'm no longer going to feel false pride from being top 8, I'll know I've earned my place there.


No, you might not have..

The only thing this change shows you is that 800 points in division A is the same as 800 points in division B now. You could still be rank 50 with 800 points in one division, and rank 1 with 800 points in another, and your "global ranking" and skill level, mmr could be identical in both.

Before, you could be +- hundreds of points in one division due to offsets and not be able to measure or compare via points, now you can. Division ranking was always and still is a horrible means of ranking skill unless all bonus pool is spent and you are at least diamond/master where half the divisions are not 2-months-afk, and even then, you should be comparing points, now that you actuly can, instead of being top 8 of some arbitrary pool of 100 random people
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
September 10 2012 10:13 GMT
#347
On September 10 2012 19:06 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 02:49 Targe wrote:
That's an awesome update, they aren't giving us elo or mmr rankings but this will keep me happy!

I'm no longer going to feel false pride from being top 8, I'll know I've earned my place there.


No, you might not have..

The only thing this change shows you is that 800 points in division A is the same as 800 points in division B now. You could still be rank 50 with 800 points in one division, and rank 1 with 800 points in another, and your "global ranking" and skill level, mmr could be identical in both.

Before, you could be +- hundreds of points in one division due to offsets and not be able to measure or compare via points, now you can. Division ranking was always and still is a horrible means of ranking skill unless all bonus pool is spent and you are at least diamond/master where half the divisions are not 2-months-afk, and even then, you should be comparing points, now that you actuly can, instead of being top 8 of some arbitrary pool of 100 random people

Still, with sc2ranks.com and sc2gears' MMR plugin, this will give us a much better idea as to how good we really are compared to others. So it's a great change in my book.
wajd
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
240 Posts
September 10 2012 11:09 GMT
#348
Anybody know what time the next season starts?
ApocAlypsE007
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel1007 Posts
September 10 2012 13:29 GMT
#349
Anyone knows what is the point threshold to reach masters?
@wajd the next season starts at 12 of September afaik
I'm playing the game, the one that will take me to my end, i'm waiting for the rain, TO WASH-- WHO I AM!!!
Embir
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland567 Posts
September 10 2012 13:33 GMT
#350
On September 10 2012 18:10 SEA KarMa wrote:
now we need to show the win/losses again. Not only do we need that, but we also need race win/loss in 1v1 as to see which matchups we are weak against. It should be adding statistics (i.e. average game length) not removing them!


Just install SC2 Gears and you got this.
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 14:39:03
September 10 2012 14:37 GMT
#351
On September 10 2012 22:29 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
Anyone knows what is the point threshold to reach masters?
@wajd the next season starts at 12 of September afaik


September 11 according to http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/7157308/Season_8_Now_Locked_and_Big_Changes_Coming_Next_Season-9_6_2012
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
September 10 2012 14:53 GMT
#352
Good! I wonder what my rank really is haha
AKMU / IU
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
September 10 2012 14:55 GMT
#353
On September 10 2012 22:33 Embir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 18:10 SEA KarMa wrote:
now we need to show the win/losses again. Not only do we need that, but we also need race win/loss in 1v1 as to see which matchups we are weak against. It should be adding statistics (i.e. average game length) not removing them!


Just install SC2 Gears and you got this.

There's no reason we should be adding 3rd party programs to see stats we can't see due to shitty policy.
WhalesFromSpace
Profile Joined March 2012
390 Posts
September 10 2012 14:59 GMT
#354
On September 10 2012 22:29 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
Anyone knows what is the point threshold to reach masters?
@wajd the next season starts at 12 of September afaik

Be better than everyone in diamond.
Nihility
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
September 10 2012 15:13 GMT
#355
I wish they would remove and add new 1v1 maps
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
September 10 2012 15:13 GMT
#356
the tier change seems good. i wish they had better maps though. maybe when HOTS is out..
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Tyrtl
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada10 Posts
September 10 2012 17:48 GMT
#357
awesome, the ladder tier thing will really help frusturated high bronze league up into silver. It was annoying as hell for me.
What do you call a hearing impaired protoss army? a DEAF BALL!
wajd
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
240 Posts
September 10 2012 18:02 GMT
#358
On September 10 2012 23:37 Dionyseus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 22:29 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
Anyone knows what is the point threshold to reach masters?
@wajd the next season starts at 12 of September afaik


September 11 according to http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/7157308/Season_8_Now_Locked_and_Big_Changes_Coming_Next_Season-9_6_2012


I was looking for more of a time, like 8am or something.
Tao367
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom324 Posts
September 10 2012 18:04 GMT
#359
On September 11 2012 03:02 wajd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 23:37 Dionyseus wrote:
On September 10 2012 22:29 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
Anyone knows what is the point threshold to reach masters?
@wajd the next season starts at 12 of September afaik


September 11 according to http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/7157308/Season_8_Now_Locked_and_Big_Changes_Coming_Next_Season-9_6_2012


I was looking for more of a time, like 8am or something.


Normal server maintenance, whatever that time is in NA.
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
September 10 2012 18:27 GMT
#360
On September 09 2012 01:15 WhalesFromSpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 00:28 redDuke wrote:
On September 07 2012 10:19 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On September 07 2012 10:16 DGB.Zerok wrote:
Can someone explain me a little better what is ladder tier? My english sucks



Ladder tier means theirs different tiers...



"there is"
Your english also sucks.

This is a cool idea. It'll be nice to be able to better understand our rankings!


"there are"
Since it is plural.


"Since it is plural" is not a complete sentence. I just wanted to keep the string of grammatical corrections going.
I still don't fully understand this tiering thing and why they won't show MMR.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
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