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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
September 12 2012 07:05 GMT
#421
On September 07 2012 10:10 emc wrote:
Also taldarim has it's rocks removed at the 3rd!

Dustin on holiday?
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 03:13:16
September 13 2012 03:12 GMT
#422
Ahh thanks guys.

I think I also suck really badly, because I've won like 4 matches this season, and lost at least 2 times that. My opponents are kicking my ass. I mean, its one sided hulk smashing, bone crushingly one sided.

I swear to god, if I get demoted down to Gold, I will up and delete this horrid game immediately.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
teamhozac
Profile Joined April 2012
404 Posts
September 13 2012 17:17 GMT
#423
Yeah sure seems like this season is much harder, guess thats what happens when theres not all the nonsense going on with the ranking system
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13410 Posts
September 13 2012 17:19 GMT
#424
On September 14 2012 02:17 teamhozac wrote:
Yeah sure seems like this season is much harder, guess thats what happens when theres not all the nonsense going on with the ranking system


My second account placed diamond because I was inactive with it towards the end of last season. I have been having a pretty easy time trying to get back to masters. I think ive lost 2 games out of 10 to unscouted all ins. One was 3 base baneling and I lost my core before I could get more sentries, then the other was a cannon rush.

I always feel the beginning of the season is generally harder because you face more all ins wherein one mistake in holding it and you lose.
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Ursad0n
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States523 Posts
September 13 2012 17:20 GMT
#425
Well I think they really solidified the leagues a lot better this season, I switched races and so I was in gold league but I saw some really good players in there compared to the absolute shit I saw before which is a nice change of scenery
You make it sound like there's a correlation between what should happen and what actually happens. I mean, life is chaotic and it's often unfair. I know it is for me.
Shade_FR
Profile Joined June 2010
France378 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 17:58:25
September 13 2012 17:58 GMT
#426
Here is my summary :

Now, Bronze-Diamond players will be able to use SC2Ranks to know their exact ranking, they can compare themself with others players based on their ladder rating, like we could always do in Master.

Division system is still stupid & useless because of the "first play, first placed". Good players almost always play the first day (or the following) of a season. The more division created, the less skilled these divisions are. Casual players (who play only few games in a season) don't play the first day and are inactive players, at the bottom of new divisions.

A top 8 in a new division would be like top 50 in one of the first divisions.

Blizzard failed with this division system, at least everyone can use SC2Ranks to have a real ranking system now.
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teamhozac
Profile Joined April 2012
404 Posts
September 14 2012 02:39 GMT
#427
On September 14 2012 02:58 Shade_CsT wrote:
Here is my summary :

Now, Bronze-Diamond players will be able to use SC2Ranks to know their exact ranking, they can compare themself with others players based on their ladder rating, like we could always do in Master.

Division system is still stupid & useless because of the "first play, first placed". Good players almost always play the first day (or the following) of a season. The more division created, the less skilled these divisions are. Casual players (who play only few games in a season) don't play the first day and are inactive players, at the bottom of new divisions.

A top 8 in a new division would be like top 50 in one of the first divisions.

Blizzard failed with this division system, at least everyone can use SC2Ranks to have a real ranking system now.


Hmmm thats a good point I never thought about that first day of play thing...
Mstring
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia510 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 04:54:07
September 14 2012 04:52 GMT
#428
Removing the hidden tier system doesn't stop stacked divisions. No problems on my end; I'm not attached to my rank, but the only way that rank can truly correlate with overall league standing is if they constantly rearrange divisions. At that point you'd have to ask what the purpose of having them at all would be.
teamhozac
Profile Joined April 2012
404 Posts
September 14 2012 07:59 GMT
#429
On September 14 2012 13:52 Mstring wrote:
Removing the hidden tier system doesn't stop stacked divisions. No problems on my end; I'm not attached to my rank, but the only way that rank can truly correlate with overall league standing is if they constantly rearrange divisions. At that point you'd have to ask what the purpose of having them at all would be.


Well its not like you play against people just in your division, so as long as youre getting points even if other people in your division are as well you will all eventually get promoted, I dont think this is a problem
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
September 14 2012 08:05 GMT
#430
On September 14 2012 02:58 Shade_CsT wrote:
Here is my summary :

Now, Bronze-Diamond players will be able to use SC2Ranks to know their exact ranking, they can compare themself with others players based on their ladder rating, like we could always do in Master.

Division system is still stupid & useless because of the "first play, first placed". Good players almost always play the first day (or the following) of a season. The more division created, the less skilled these divisions are. Casual players (who play only few games in a season) don't play the first day and are inactive players, at the bottom of new divisions.

A top 8 in a new division would be like top 50 in one of the first divisions.

Blizzard failed with this division system, at least everyone can use SC2Ranks to have a real ranking system now.



Yeah your right. they should just have one division worldwide.

Yeah im 15234050523040 th today!! See how stupid that would be?


Blizzard didnt fail with that system, they had to choose some kind of sample to create something interesting. 100 is good.
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
JuiceBoxHero
Profile Joined January 2011
117 Posts
September 14 2012 09:26 GMT
#431
I guess I shouldnt have played on the first day . Im getting absolutely smacked down for some reason, last season I was top 2 and playing masters people, now im like 40th and facing the occasional plat player. Slump or the new division system? For the record over my last like 30 games I think ive won 10 and my highest career ranking was like top 50 masters last summer, went on haiatus for awhile and now I suck. Sort of a long winded and weird question but Im getting really discouraged because I have no idea what happened and why I am suddenly so bad.
teamhozac
Profile Joined April 2012
404 Posts
September 14 2012 10:35 GMT
#432
On September 14 2012 18:26 JuiceBoxHero wrote:
I guess I shouldnt have played on the first day . Im getting absolutely smacked down for some reason, last season I was top 2 and playing masters people, now im like 40th and facing the occasional plat player. Slump or the new division system? For the record over my last like 30 games I think ive won 10 and my highest career ranking was like top 50 masters last summer, went on haiatus for awhile and now I suck. Sort of a long winded and weird question but Im getting really discouraged because I have no idea what happened and why I am suddenly so bad.


Im going through the same thing, but I dont think its because we played on the first day, I mean, you play people in other divisions. not just the one youre in, so it shouldnt matter
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
September 14 2012 10:45 GMT
#433
On September 14 2012 18:26 JuiceBoxHero wrote:
I guess I shouldnt have played on the first day . Im getting absolutely smacked down for some reason, last season I was top 2 and playing masters people, now im like 40th and facing the occasional plat player. Slump or the new division system? For the record over my last like 30 games I think ive won 10 and my highest career ranking was like top 50 masters last summer, went on haiatus for awhile and now I suck. Sort of a long winded and weird question but Im getting really discouraged because I have no idea what happened and why I am suddenly so bad.


Who you get matched up with depends purely on your MMR. The leagues, divisions, and all that are just a cosmetic layer on top of that. Blizzard can shuffle the way they setup leagues and divisions all they want, it's not going to affect who you play against. Also, for masters league, nothing changed, since no division-tiers existed there to begin with.
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wajd
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
240 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 23:30:24
September 14 2012 23:30 GMT
#434
So..............how do you find out your current percentile again? :/
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
September 14 2012 23:38 GMT
#435
On September 15 2012 08:30 wajd wrote:
So..............how do you find out your current percentile again? :/


SC2Ranks.
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teamhozac
Profile Joined April 2012
404 Posts
September 14 2012 23:48 GMT
#436
Is sc2ranks ever gonna update the stats page, theyre still on season 5, im very curious to see how many people play what race etc.
Instigata
Profile Joined April 2004
United States546 Posts
September 14 2012 23:58 GMT
#437
should just be like a iccup rating or just use a point based rating with no 1st 2nd 3rd stuff for anything below GM.
SC2 was doomed from the start.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
September 15 2012 00:12 GMT
#438
On September 15 2012 08:48 teamhozac wrote:
Is sc2ranks ever gonna update the stats page, theyre still on season 5, im very curious to see how many people play what race etc.


It says season 5 but it also says live. It looks like it's actually up to date, just labeled wrong. Note how there's no GM numbers for all the regions except China, where Season 9 hasn't rolled out yet.
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teamhozac
Profile Joined April 2012
404 Posts
September 15 2012 00:14 GMT
#439
On September 15 2012 09:12 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 08:48 teamhozac wrote:
Is sc2ranks ever gonna update the stats page, theyre still on season 5, im very curious to see how many people play what race etc.


It says season 5 but it also says live. It looks like it's actually up to date, just labeled wrong. Note how there's no GM numbers for all the regions except China, where Season 9 hasn't rolled out yet.


Ah ok... thanks
JDub
Profile Joined December 2010
United States976 Posts
September 15 2012 00:21 GMT
#440
On September 14 2012 02:17 teamhozac wrote:
Yeah sure seems like this season is much harder, guess thats what happens when theres not all the nonsense going on with the ranking system

I don't understand how people can be like "oh, now it's way harder". Who you're playing has not changed at all, it's still the same MMR system. For every game that you (or another person) plays against a player better than them, that player plays somebody worse than them. The system can't be any harder or easier than before, since for every hard game for one person, there's an easy game for someone else. It's a zero sum game.
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