No Kespa Players in Upcoming GSL - Page 30

On August 23 2012 22:18 Doodsmack wrote:
Guess the kespa players aren't allowed to think or act for themselves lol, they need permission from daddy. Hope blizzard steps in here.

On August 23 2012 22:19 Weirdkid wrote:
The players and teams themselves want to play though, according to an article I saw. It's just the association standing in the way. And apparently, Gomtv was considering giving seeds to Kespa with amazing seed positions. 2 straight to Code S, 2 to Up and Downs, and 4 to Code A. That's rather madness.

On August 23 2012 22:22 Finlux wrote:
Exactly how foolish are KeSPA? Do they not recognize the publicity they can acquire by partnering with GOM, and inviting the foreign scene to Korea or vice versa? This is such a greedy, selfish and narrow-minding act of KeSPA trying to push GOM aside.

They can keep on excusing us that the players aren't prepared. But for how long?

On August 23 2012 22:23 Hondelul wrote:

You did many translations from Chinese websites, didn´t you? Could you link to the article and perhaps translate a bit?
Since there is no other information in here other than the GOM statement in OP it might be very helpfull.

That´s fe the first time I hear about the seeds, that amount of them would have been really enormous :O

On August 23 2012 22:00 boxman22 wrote:

That was not my point, I guess I phrased it poorly. Let me just phrase it this way, why would you not want to see Kespa players in the GSL?

The way I phrased it was poor because I can understand that the team has to be able to decide (for instance if a Kespa player really wanted to play in the MLG this weekend their team has the right to keep them for proleague).

On August 23 2012 22:23 Salazarz wrote:
There's a difference between "I want to compete there as a player" and "I think it's a good idea for me to compete there as a member of my team and as a professional". Of course they want to play in GSL, it's a great learning opportunity. But someone like Jaedong losing to a no-name in GSL prelims would be a a disaster for his image as a pro and the team he is representing.

On August 23 2012 22:30 Talin wrote:


I don't have anything against the idea of Kespa players playing in the GSL. It's just that the conditions for it aren't ideal at the moment. Here's a few reasons why:

1. OSL and Proleague are always going to be priority events for Kespa teams. First of all, because they're their events and it is only natural that they want to focus on those. And second, because there is a lot of tradition and history behind these events, and fans of Kespa teams and players are always going to be more invested in them than in other leagues. Fitting in new leagues is always going to be difficult, but it's especially tough during the transition period.

2. Many players still have to train two games, namely those whose teams make it to the playoffs. That might not seem like a big deal, but consider how much hinges on a player like Bisu - he's got a long way to go to catch up in his SC2 play, AND T1 literally depends on him being able to perform at the highest level in BW during the playoff run. Imagine if he had to play YuGiOh in Code A a day before semifinals or something, or waste a minimum of 2 days on the Code A qualifiers. It's safe to say that would be less than healthy for his PL performance level and T1's chances of advancing.

3. Like many others pointed out, the players probably don't feel like their general level of play is good enough for it to be rational for them to focus on competing in the GSL and invest a lot of time specifically in GSL match preparation. They will probably benefit more from a month of general training combined with the team obligations in PL / helping teammates than they would for preparing against specific opponents in GSL while still learning the game on the fly.

4. Although many seem to find it difficult to believe, scheduling is a big issue here. It was a big issue on several occasions in BW as well, and led to teams dropping GOM Classic, Proleague format and scheduling being amended to be less aggressive, and even teams allowing their players to only compete in one individual league. While their players do work crazy hours, they're still used to a fairly spaced out schedule and having / taking a long time to train and prepare. Like I said before in the thread, it's inconceivable that you'll see a Kespa player live on MC's schedule where he's flying somewhere every other weekend, playing GSL in the meantime, and using the remaining time for practice.

Unless this shit escalates for no reason, I'm pretty sure that Kespa players will play in GSL at some point. But doing so now is just not rational, and I would imagine that the majority of player and team fans would like them to focus on winning Proleague/OSL instead of having all the players compete everywhere and team resources being diluted.

On August 23 2012 22:28 Weirdkid wrote:


I'll do up the translation from the Chinese website and post it on this thread. They kinda summarised some of the sentiments of the players and coaches. The seeding part was a one-liner that the Chinese site added in later, but it's all from thisisgame.com as well.

About the seeding considerations - http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1273044&category=13438 (Korean)