Heart of the Swarm TvP Battle Report! - Page 61

On August 15 2012 07:18 Rye. wrote:
screw you Sean Platt.

you've sold out.

flaws....
both players floating thousands.
looks like a gold league match.
no collosus.
no high templar.
no large use of widow mines.
no use of bio.
....
it goes on

I'm no longer buying hots. its gonna be bs.

rye

On August 15 2012 07:25 Big J wrote:
Wow... If scrappy Battle Reports actually can get rid of angry kids playing SC2...

PLEASE POST MORE OF THEM BLIZZARD!!!

On August 15 2012 07:47 wcr.4fun wrote:


Keep enjoying your shit. I'll eat my lovely lobster.

On August 15 2012 07:51 nGBeast wrote:


you've played BW for 4 months, don't lump yourself into the actual BW players.

On August 15 2012 07:53 Dalavita wrote:


You don't have to play BW to know that HotS is going to be shit.

On August 15 2012 07:55 nGBeast wrote:


Yeah because judging a game before you actually play it makes a ton of sense right. Good thing blizzard kept 1 food roaches right?

On August 15 2012 07:56 Dalavita wrote:


I'm judging shitty A-move units by what they are, yes.

Also, what do you even mean by 1 food roaches? If you're trying to insinuate that war hounds will be good once the stats are sorted out, then no, no they won't.

On August 15 2012 07:59 nGBeast wrote:


I'm saying roaches were 1 food before they were changed because... GASP people played the game!?!?!?!

A-move units? you're a fucking parrot. Lots of games (WC3 had dispel) have abilities that are auto casting, but the best (PRO PLAYERS) wont be using autocast, I mean really you're just making bad assumptions. How do you even know the warhound will be in the game? You don't and your whining is just uneeded, wait to whine when the game comes out. You have probably never played the game, or balanced a game, or coded a game. You have 0 credibility to be judging their work.

edit: You saw 2 gold level players playing awful and you're basing the game on that? What a fucking riot.

On August 15 2012 07:59 nGBeast wrote:


I'm saying roaches were 1 food before they were changed because... GASP people played the game!?!?!?!

A-move units? you're a fucking parrot. Lots of games (WC3 had dispel) have abilities that are auto casting, but the best (PRO PLAYERS) wont be using autocast, I mean really you're just making bad assumptions. How do you even know the warhound will be in the game? You don't and your whining is just uneeded, wait to whine when the game comes out. You have probably never played the game, or balanced a game, or coded a game. You have 0 credibility to be judging their work.

On August 15 2012 08:04 Dalavita wrote:


Are you actually retarded? I'm bitching based on the battle report. The war hound was in the battle report. Do you want me to not bitch because there's a chance it won't be in the game? That is the most backwards logic I've ever heard. If anything it's my bitching that will cause it to get shafted from the game.

Also, parrot? I'm the OG whiner when it comes to A-move units. I was calling terran being turned into A-move shit the first time they showcased the units, and I'm satisfied to say that I wasn't wrong in any way.

The thing that bothers me isn't even the automatic mechanical seeking missile, which although retarded, is a meh issue. It's that the unit itself is just something you mass and move out with no micro required. You box your army and move out and it'll do its job fine.

Also, your 1 food roach example still doesn't make sense. Learn the difference between unit design and unit stats. The roach is still a roach, 1 food or 2 food.

Edit: Also, I've played Blizzard games since Warcraft 2. HotS won't be the first game they're screwing up with bad decisions. I'm far too experienced with Blizzard for the wait and see approach to be even remotely acceptable at this stage.

On August 15 2012 08:12 nGBeast wrote:


Yeah you're basing you're argument off of nothing. Blizzard said that these units might not back it past beta, but again you're backward logic was based off of 1 game by 2 gold level players. Until I see GSL quality players playing HoTS I will reserve judgement.

So you're one of those guy on ladder who whines about A-Moving units? No it cant be you're fault just 1aing bio balls right?

I would really like to see someone winning with a pure warhound army vs any competent (Read: Non-gold league) player.

The example was that it can be changed, not because of any other reason. Blizzard found out that a 1 food roach was stupid and changed it, it they find that a unit is also stupid it will be removed.

And I've been playing Blizzard games just as long, and I don't care how many times blizzard breaks SC2, aslong as it gets to a good stage, if they let the game "develop" we will go 4 years of blizzard not touching WC3 while a stale metagame, stale map pool, and allowing hackers to run rampant destroy the game and scene.

On August 15 2012 08:16 yeastiality wrote:

You honestly think they units that form their core design for HotS and are being shown off at every opportunity...won't make it past beta?

What will the game be, then? WoL with a campaign where kerrigan unlocks russian doll banelings?

Get a grip, dude. They have a schedule to release the game and make money at a certain time, whether or not all the ideas going into it are complete trash. Even if it bugs you, smart people are going to offer their criticism because it's the only way we can hope to end up with a halfway decent game at the end.

As for the 'pure warhound' argument: that seems to be the GOAL of the unit by design. Why should you need to position tanks if you can just take a bunch of beefed up marauders and clown on every protoss unit that isnt the zealot/DT/HT? I don't see people answering this with anything but "I haven't used it yet myself so I can't say" ...which kinda indicates that you're not cut out for this debate in the first place. Go back to the cave until beta

On August 15 2012 08:23 nGBeast wrote:


I'm repeating what blizzard said, don't be so dumb.

Smart people, rofl forum warriors are nothing more than forum warriors. When you talk like a low diamond player (A-Moving units), you're not smart. Every unit has a core in the build.

Rofl if you think the goal of the warhound is to mass 200/200 and win you're being senile. Really I think you need to go back and look at the design Blizzard had in mind lolololol. I play protoss and I can't stop laughing than you actually thing a max warhound army is going to break the game oh man!

"Debate" more like a bunch of whiny teenagers who don't have any background in game design, or have any high level play under their hands get to vent about stuff they have no idea, yeah good "debate"

On August 15 2012 08:23 nGBeast wrote:


I'm repeating what blizzard said, don't be so dumb.

Smart people, rofl forum warriors are nothing more than forum warriors. When you talk like a low diamond player (A-Moving units), you're not smart. Every unit has a core in the build.

Rofl if you think the goal of the warhound is to mass 200/200 and win you're being senile. Really I think you need to go back and look at the design Blizzard had in mind lolololol. I play protoss and I can't stop laughing than you actually thing a max warhound army is going to break the game oh man!

"Debate" more like a bunch of whiny teenagers who don't have any background in game design, or have any high level play under their hands get to vent about stuff they have no idea, yeah good "debate"

On August 15 2012 08:26 Dalavita wrote:



"I'm repeating what blizzard said, don't be so dumb. "

Blizzard has come out and said that they want the warhound and battle hellion to be A-move units because the rest of the terran army is so micro intensive. They also implemented war hounds because they wanted something to deal with siege tank lines in TvT, which is why the missiles even go for mechanical units. So not only are they screwing up the awesomeness that is TvT, they're also screwing up the awesomeness that is the high skill ceiling of Terran, and they're doing all of this BY DESIGN.

How thick are you, seriously.