Heart of the Swarm TvP Battle Report! - Page 41

On August 14 2012 14:15 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:


True, I forgot about the siege-line breaking role. That should be interesting, comparing its bust capabilities versus that of bio.
Still not sure about the TvP thing, though. I mean, mech has three parts, right? The tanks, which kick ass and take names. The buffer for the tanks, which make it so that the tanks can keep kicking ass and taking more names. Then, the AA, because tanks can't shoot up.
Where does the warhound fit into that equation? Without the warhound, mech TvP is going to be a game of buffers, air battles and positioning, where catching the mech player unsieged is important, as well as having your buffer outlast his, because the fragile, expensive units behind the buffer die easily on both sides. In addition, the air battle will be keeping the match dynamic and increasing the skillcap somewhat. Vikings versus tempests will play a crucial role in maintaining leads in positioning and army.
Nice and pat, with a nice level of skill.
Now, what happens if we throw in the warhound? The warhound's ability bypasses the buffer completely, which I guess makes it useful, but it does weird things with how mech TvP is going to be played. It's also a 1a unit, even more so than a valuable, long range unit like, say, the colossus, because it's a cheap unit with no significant range or speed advantage, thus making it a dispensable front-line fighter. The warhound will likely be a part of the buffer, probably just behind the hellions, but it changes the way the buffer works.
I don't know man, I just don't like it. Maybe it's the fact that it's a low skill unit in its current form. Maybe I just don't like how it sort of doesn't feel "pat", overlapping roles with some things and fundamentally different in other ways. Either way, I'm pretty uncertain about this unit, and still feel a micro-intensive, skill-based unit would add more to TvP mech than this thing.

On August 14 2012 10:49 trifecta wrote:
Yeah, they need to invite some pros to do these things. Hard to tell how it's going to shake out without pros playing. SC2 devs should be forced to watch every major tournament VOD b/c it doesn't seem like they're watching/watching the same game.

On August 14 2012 15:04 Myrkskog wrote:


They claim they all watch major tournaments. But then they interview Dustin Browder asking about the late game ZvP Mothership dynamic and he has no clue what the fuck they are talking about...

As for the Battle Report:


The Warhound looks so out of place it actually takes away from the immersion. It's too big, but in a weird way that is hard to pinpoint. I think that it's too tall, and that makes it look really out of place when beside other units. It's not as though a mech is out of place because the thor is fine, but the model for the Warhound is just completely wrong looking.


The new rock piles are stupid. The only way to redeem them is to make it so they crush whatever units are there when they fall. It will be like when cavemen chased wolly mammoths into a gorge and then pushed boulders on them.


The only exciting idea in that battlereport was the mothership core. It's a great fundamental idea which deserves applause, however the abilities they have given it fall flat compared to the idea of the core itself.


The Battle Hellion, Tempest, and Warhound are all painfully uninspired.


The Oracle doesn't deserve what little credit it is getting. It is a terrible unit. Nobody wants to watch that piece of shit fly around freezing patches.