• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 13:49
CET 19:49
KST 03:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1816Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises2Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship WardiTV Mondays $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
I would like to say something about StarCraft BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/ What monitor do you use for playing Remastered? BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
[G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI 12 Days of Starcraft
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Ghostwriting Services for Authors and Businesses The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1724 users

KeSPA, eSports Fed. agree on trade lock until Oct 2013 - P…

Forum Index > SC2 General
327 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 17 Next All
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 12:02:12
August 08 2012 12:00 GMT
#181
On August 08 2012 20:52 skeldark wrote:
I see why this is good for gsl but i fail to understand what kespa gets from this.
Now their players have to own. If not, No one will be left by 2013 to watch them.


Well, it avoid the awkward situation and teams dump BW players and try to poach players, and kills ability for BW players to transit.

And if KeSPA historically have a really high view of themselves, so it probably never occurred to them that their player might not keep up.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Pimpmuckl
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany528 Posts
August 08 2012 12:08 GMT
#182
On August 08 2012 21:00 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 20:52 skeldark wrote:
I see why this is good for gsl but i fail to understand what kespa gets from this.
Now their players have to own. If not, No one will be left by 2013 to watch them.


Well, it avoid the awkward situation and teams dump BW players and try to poach players, and kills ability for BW players to transit.

And if KeSPA historically have a really high view of themselves, so it probably never occurred to them that their player might not keep up.


That's actually reasonable. Thought KeSPA would just put some restraints on their players like they like to do but this way i am quite confident it helps both partys .
twitter.com/pimpmuckl
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
August 08 2012 12:38 GMT
#183
the players are going to need a union, like badly.
TheMiddl
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany9 Posts
August 08 2012 13:10 GMT
#184
very very good decision of both sides!
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
August 08 2012 13:10 GMT
#185
Seems reasonable tbh, not having it could upset the balance between the sides really easily if they aren't at an even playing field. Which they would be on by Oct 2013
Felvo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States124 Posts
August 08 2012 13:15 GMT
#186
I'm not really sure what'll come out of this but I'm hoping for only good things and hopefully a better future for Starcraft II and e-sports in general.
BoggieMan
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
520 Posts
August 08 2012 13:15 GMT
#187
I actually think this agreement is good for the kespa players, if the kespa players diden't turn out to be as good at sc2 right away, why woulden't kespa hire teamless code a players instead ? this gives them time to catch up.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 08 2012 13:21 GMT
#188
Good call for both sides, as stated in the topic.
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
August 08 2012 13:32 GMT
#189
Nice well i mean its good gives time for kespa players to make themselves much better at the game so good for them on this contract
Follow me on Instagram @Chef_Betto
Ritchie
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada206 Posts
August 08 2012 13:37 GMT
#190
Seems reasonable to me.
After all, we just want to be happy, don't we?
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
August 08 2012 13:42 GMT
#191
Still going to be interesting whether players like MC or Taeja will be poached by the Kespa teams.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 08 2012 13:46 GMT
#192
On August 08 2012 22:42 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Still going to be interesting whether players like MC or Taeja will be poached by the Kespa teams.


I think MC have a huge salary already, and he loves global tournament too much to go to KeSPA. Taeja on the other hand...
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 08 2012 13:49 GMT
#193
On August 08 2012 21:00 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 20:52 skeldark wrote:
I see why this is good for gsl but i fail to understand what kespa gets from this.
Now their players have to own. If not, No one will be left by 2013 to watch them.


Well, it avoid the awkward situation and teams dump BW players and try to poach players, and kills ability for BW players to transit.

And if KeSPA historically have a really high view of themselves, so it probably never occurred to them that their player might not keep up.


It's legit because of their strict rules and policy. Make no mistake, we'll see a lot of these players thrive in HotS. It's a very good notion for both sides in fact and people will watch.
.vid
Profile Joined July 2011
Croatia227 Posts
August 08 2012 13:52 GMT
#194
When was the last time we had a foriegn player in KeSPA?

it's not cause kespa didnt allow them, it's cause they sucked. now stop being such a prick and blaming kespa for everything, including aliens landing on earth and making crop signs.
eujjjjj
Flossy
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 13:53:50
August 08 2012 13:52 GMT
#195
I'm sad, but hopefully they can still practice with eachoter.
etternaonline.com
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
August 08 2012 13:53 GMT
#196
I think this is an excellent decision, even though it doesn't seem so at first. The OP makes a great point of KeSPA just buying out SC2 players that are already well developed, instead of focusing time onto honing the skills of their BW players. As well as vice versa I suppose. That way we'll have more teams in the SC2 scene, not just a few power houses. Although does this apply to foreign teams as well? We just saw LighT recently pick up M18M.
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
August 08 2012 13:59 GMT
#197
This makes sense, it'll allow everyone to continue to grow and develop. Everyone will be able to trade again a little after Heart of the Swarm comes out which will make things interesting. (Assuming it'll be out mid 2013)
Sc2 Caster | Host of Sc2 Up & Coming | The Godfather of Team LXG | Sc2 Historian | Youtube.com/NanMan | Twitch.tv/TheRealNanMan | Twitter.com/TheRealNanMan |
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 08 2012 14:02 GMT
#198
On August 08 2012 22:53 Sovano wrote:
I think this is an excellent decision, even though it doesn't seem so at first. The OP makes a great point of KeSPA just buying out SC2 players that are already well developed, instead of focusing time onto honing the skills of their BW players. As well as vice versa I suppose. That way we'll have more teams in the SC2 scene, not just a few power houses. Although does this apply to foreign teams as well? We just saw LighT recently pick up M18M.


No it does not apply to foreign scene. It's just between KeSPA and eSF, which is just IM, MVP, ST, Prime, TSL, NSH. I forgot was FXO included or not, since it was foreign owned.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 08 2012 14:03 GMT
#199
On August 08 2012 22:46 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 22:42 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Still going to be interesting whether players like MC or Taeja will be poached by the Kespa teams.


I think MC have a huge salary already, and he loves global tournament too much to go to KeSPA. Taeja on the other hand...


I find it very hard to believe that Taeja would bail and go to a kespa team. He is having the most success out of his entire career with Liquid right now.
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
August 08 2012 14:03 GMT
#200
On August 08 2012 23:02 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 22:53 Sovano wrote:
I think this is an excellent decision, even though it doesn't seem so at first. The OP makes a great point of KeSPA just buying out SC2 players that are already well developed, instead of focusing time onto honing the skills of their BW players. As well as vice versa I suppose. That way we'll have more teams in the SC2 scene, not just a few power houses. Although does this apply to foreign teams as well? We just saw LighT recently pick up M18M.


No it does not apply to foreign scene. It's just between KeSPA and eSF, which is just IM, MVP, ST, Prime, TSL, NSH. I forgot was FXO included or not, since it was foreign owned.

Ah okay. Thanks for clearing that portion up.
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 17 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 18h 12m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 517
BRAT_OK 128
DivinesiaTV 45
trigger 17
ProTech0
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 31056
Shuttle 665
Horang2 543
EffOrt 443
Jaedong 417
Mini 222
Dewaltoss 84
Bonyth 81
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
Shine 7
Dota 2
qojqva4213
febbydoto13
LuMiX1
League of Legends
C9.Mang0660
Counter-Strike
fl0m868
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu417
Khaldor175
Other Games
Grubby5362
FrodaN3018
Gorgc2971
DeMusliM859
B2W.Neo453
mouzStarbuck350
NarutO 33
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 69
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• naamasc231
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki27
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie2549
• Shiphtur271
Upcoming Events
OSC
18h 12m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 8h
OSC
1d 17h
IPSL
1d 19h
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
1d 23h
OSC
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Patches Events
4 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-Race Season 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.