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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 12:02:12
August 08 2012 12:00 GMT
#181
On August 08 2012 20:52 skeldark wrote:
I see why this is good for gsl but i fail to understand what kespa gets from this.
Now their players have to own. If not, No one will be left by 2013 to watch them.


Well, it avoid the awkward situation and teams dump BW players and try to poach players, and kills ability for BW players to transit.

And if KeSPA historically have a really high view of themselves, so it probably never occurred to them that their player might not keep up.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Pimpmuckl
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany528 Posts
August 08 2012 12:08 GMT
#182
On August 08 2012 21:00 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 20:52 skeldark wrote:
I see why this is good for gsl but i fail to understand what kespa gets from this.
Now their players have to own. If not, No one will be left by 2013 to watch them.


Well, it avoid the awkward situation and teams dump BW players and try to poach players, and kills ability for BW players to transit.

And if KeSPA historically have a really high view of themselves, so it probably never occurred to them that their player might not keep up.


That's actually reasonable. Thought KeSPA would just put some restraints on their players like they like to do but this way i am quite confident it helps both partys .
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Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
August 08 2012 12:38 GMT
#183
the players are going to need a union, like badly.
TheMiddl
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany9 Posts
August 08 2012 13:10 GMT
#184
very very good decision of both sides!
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
August 08 2012 13:10 GMT
#185
Seems reasonable tbh, not having it could upset the balance between the sides really easily if they aren't at an even playing field. Which they would be on by Oct 2013
Felvo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States124 Posts
August 08 2012 13:15 GMT
#186
I'm not really sure what'll come out of this but I'm hoping for only good things and hopefully a better future for Starcraft II and e-sports in general.
BoggieMan
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
520 Posts
August 08 2012 13:15 GMT
#187
I actually think this agreement is good for the kespa players, if the kespa players diden't turn out to be as good at sc2 right away, why woulden't kespa hire teamless code a players instead ? this gives them time to catch up.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 08 2012 13:21 GMT
#188
Good call for both sides, as stated in the topic.
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
August 08 2012 13:32 GMT
#189
Nice well i mean its good gives time for kespa players to make themselves much better at the game so good for them on this contract
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Ritchie
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada206 Posts
August 08 2012 13:37 GMT
#190
Seems reasonable to me.
After all, we just want to be happy, don't we?
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
August 08 2012 13:42 GMT
#191
Still going to be interesting whether players like MC or Taeja will be poached by the Kespa teams.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 08 2012 13:46 GMT
#192
On August 08 2012 22:42 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Still going to be interesting whether players like MC or Taeja will be poached by the Kespa teams.


I think MC have a huge salary already, and he loves global tournament too much to go to KeSPA. Taeja on the other hand...
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 08 2012 13:49 GMT
#193
On August 08 2012 21:00 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 20:52 skeldark wrote:
I see why this is good for gsl but i fail to understand what kespa gets from this.
Now their players have to own. If not, No one will be left by 2013 to watch them.


Well, it avoid the awkward situation and teams dump BW players and try to poach players, and kills ability for BW players to transit.

And if KeSPA historically have a really high view of themselves, so it probably never occurred to them that their player might not keep up.


It's legit because of their strict rules and policy. Make no mistake, we'll see a lot of these players thrive in HotS. It's a very good notion for both sides in fact and people will watch.
.vid
Profile Joined July 2011
Croatia227 Posts
August 08 2012 13:52 GMT
#194
When was the last time we had a foriegn player in KeSPA?

it's not cause kespa didnt allow them, it's cause they sucked. now stop being such a prick and blaming kespa for everything, including aliens landing on earth and making crop signs.
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Flossy
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 13:53:50
August 08 2012 13:52 GMT
#195
I'm sad, but hopefully they can still practice with eachoter.
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Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
August 08 2012 13:53 GMT
#196
I think this is an excellent decision, even though it doesn't seem so at first. The OP makes a great point of KeSPA just buying out SC2 players that are already well developed, instead of focusing time onto honing the skills of their BW players. As well as vice versa I suppose. That way we'll have more teams in the SC2 scene, not just a few power houses. Although does this apply to foreign teams as well? We just saw LighT recently pick up M18M.
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
August 08 2012 13:59 GMT
#197
This makes sense, it'll allow everyone to continue to grow and develop. Everyone will be able to trade again a little after Heart of the Swarm comes out which will make things interesting. (Assuming it'll be out mid 2013)
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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 08 2012 14:02 GMT
#198
On August 08 2012 22:53 Sovano wrote:
I think this is an excellent decision, even though it doesn't seem so at first. The OP makes a great point of KeSPA just buying out SC2 players that are already well developed, instead of focusing time onto honing the skills of their BW players. As well as vice versa I suppose. That way we'll have more teams in the SC2 scene, not just a few power houses. Although does this apply to foreign teams as well? We just saw LighT recently pick up M18M.


No it does not apply to foreign scene. It's just between KeSPA and eSF, which is just IM, MVP, ST, Prime, TSL, NSH. I forgot was FXO included or not, since it was foreign owned.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 08 2012 14:03 GMT
#199
On August 08 2012 22:46 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 22:42 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Still going to be interesting whether players like MC or Taeja will be poached by the Kespa teams.


I think MC have a huge salary already, and he loves global tournament too much to go to KeSPA. Taeja on the other hand...


I find it very hard to believe that Taeja would bail and go to a kespa team. He is having the most success out of his entire career with Liquid right now.
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
August 08 2012 14:03 GMT
#200
On August 08 2012 23:02 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 22:53 Sovano wrote:
I think this is an excellent decision, even though it doesn't seem so at first. The OP makes a great point of KeSPA just buying out SC2 players that are already well developed, instead of focusing time onto honing the skills of their BW players. As well as vice versa I suppose. That way we'll have more teams in the SC2 scene, not just a few power houses. Although does this apply to foreign teams as well? We just saw LighT recently pick up M18M.


No it does not apply to foreign scene. It's just between KeSPA and eSF, which is just IM, MVP, ST, Prime, TSL, NSH. I forgot was FXO included or not, since it was foreign owned.

Ah okay. Thanks for clearing that portion up.
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