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Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 04:25:17
August 10 2012 04:24 GMT
#321
On August 10 2012 13:13 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 12:18 Zennith wrote:
On August 10 2012 12:07 blade55555 wrote:
On August 10 2012 12:05 Zennith wrote:
On August 10 2012 11:34 StarStruck wrote:
I literally rolling my eyes.



Congrats bro. Very persuasive.


He's your brother? Damn I learned something new today!

It's only for a year, it's really not a big deal to have kespa/gsl players on their same teams so that GSL teams don't get screwed over and lose all their best players to kespa teams (trust me kespa teams have a lot more money then GSL teams and foreign teams).

This is good for both sides believe it or not to restrict it for a year.



But is it good for the players?




Does it matter? Are you going to start a riot? If they feel that it is the best for them, let it be.



Are you suggesting that the players had a choice? I'm quite willing to bet that they didn't.


Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
SwiftSpear
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada355 Posts
August 10 2012 05:36 GMT
#322
On August 10 2012 13:24 Zennith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 13:13 Xiphos wrote:
On August 10 2012 12:18 Zennith wrote:
On August 10 2012 12:07 blade55555 wrote:
On August 10 2012 12:05 Zennith wrote:
On August 10 2012 11:34 StarStruck wrote:
I literally rolling my eyes.



Congrats bro. Very persuasive.


He's your brother? Damn I learned something new today!

It's only for a year, it's really not a big deal to have kespa/gsl players on their same teams so that GSL teams don't get screwed over and lose all their best players to kespa teams (trust me kespa teams have a lot more money then GSL teams and foreign teams).

This is good for both sides believe it or not to restrict it for a year.



But is it good for the players?




Does it matter? Are you going to start a riot? If they feel that it is the best for them, let it be.



Are you suggesting that the players had a choice? I'm quite willing to bet that they didn't.



I'd argue it is good for the players in a way. The separation of team lines at this point will give the Kespa players better opportunity to grow into SC2 in a safer environment, and will prevent absurdly wealthy teams from simply absorbing the top talent from everywhere else in the scene, meaning LG-IM's younger players still have Nestea and MVP to consult with, and likewise with other teams.

The players that will potentially suffer are the current GSL superstars who are skilled enough to be worth more money, but won't be allowed to move to the richer teams. However, within a year's time things will have stabilized more in terms of the skill gap between teams, and economy's of things will have shifted. It will give smaller teams opportunity to economically grow, and bigger teams opportunity to train their players to a higher skill level, so there will be less swapping around of players 1 year down the line than there would be if it were allowed right now.

How does this effect foreign teams? How many teams who have recruited Korean players (or even teams who haven't) are part of eSports Federation? Presumably TL is 'safe' as they've actually played in the GSTL as a team, where do teams like EG or Empire stand? Are Violet and Puma potentially attractive recruiting opportunities for fabulously wealthy Korean teams now?
TaterT0ts
Profile Joined July 2012
United States13 Posts
August 10 2012 17:19 GMT
#323
I think it's great! Woo KeSPA!
Spread your ketchup all over me. <3
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
August 10 2012 17:26 GMT
#324
Hmm, this lets Proleague drop the BW part without having to worry about old SC2 players taking over their teams.
If you have to ask, you don't know.
paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
August 11 2012 00:57 GMT
#325
Im suprised. Wonder how this will effect foreign teams
8D
Profile Joined June 2011
66 Posts
August 17 2012 01:07 GMT
#326
But didn't Boxer just join SKT as a coach, or does that not count because he won't be playing for the team?
release the gracken
caneras
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
433 Posts
August 17 2012 02:09 GMT
#327
On August 17 2012 10:07 8D wrote:
But didn't Boxer just join SKT as a coach, or does that not count because he won't be playing for the team?


SlayerS didn't join the GSL team federation, I think, so I don't think this applies to them. It would also explain how Clide managed to join a Kespa team as coach as well.
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
August 17 2012 11:58 GMT
#328
And I don't know if there's any limitations on coaching anyway, just to being sent out to play.
If you have to ask, you don't know.
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