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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
August 08 2012 10:30 GMT
#161
Correct me if i'm wrong but ... Players had not been ask the question didn't they ?

It feals like Kespa is deciding once again for the players. But maybe i'm wrong and didn't understand quite right the OP.

I feal a player association is needed when i see threads like this. But again. Maybe my english is too bad to understand and i'm being paranoid.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
6NR
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1472 Posts
August 08 2012 10:35 GMT
#162
This is serious news. I think think they want to limit Koreans going to foriegn teams...
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
August 08 2012 10:36 GMT
#163
On August 08 2012 14:27 EtherealDeath wrote:
Hmm so what about
1) Leaving a GSTL team, being teamless for a while, then joining a kespa team (as opposed to direct transfer), or
2) Join a foreign team, contract ends after a few months, join kespa team
3) Go teamless, get a personal sponsor for a while, join kespa team

And the other way around as well.

Or does it mean the moment you get slapped with the GSTL tag, you can't join a Kespa team regardless, even if you leave the team in the meanwhile?


I think this is still possible. M18M just joined LighT, and I'm pretty a GSTL team can hire him later.
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ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
August 08 2012 10:38 GMT
#164
On August 08 2012 19:30 FFW_Rude wrote:
Correct me if i'm wrong but ... Players had not been ask the question didn't they ?

It feals like Kespa is deciding once again for the players. But maybe i'm wrong and didn't understand quite right the OP.

I feal a player association is needed when i see threads like this. But again. Maybe my english is too bad to understand and i'm being paranoid.


This is good for the players
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
August 08 2012 10:39 GMT
#165
Does this mean that Stephano, Nani or a foreigner of that caliber could be recruited into a kespa team? I mean Stephano would rolfstomp pro league that isn't even an opinion but fact.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 10:43:40
August 08 2012 10:42 GMT
#166
On August 08 2012 19:38 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 19:30 FFW_Rude wrote:
Correct me if i'm wrong but ... Players had not been ask the question didn't they ?

It feals like Kespa is deciding once again for the players. But maybe i'm wrong and didn't understand quite right the OP.

I feal a player association is needed when i see threads like this. But again. Maybe my english is too bad to understand and i'm being paranoid.


This is good for the players

No, this is good for the teams, not for the individual players (as in nothing changed for the players really, but they could've easily had a more beneficial agreement).

Allright I feel like I'm complaining too much, gonna exit this thread now
In the woods, there lurks..
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
August 08 2012 10:57 GMT
#167
Wow thats a pretty long time, I would have prefered an earlier date.
I wonder how good the Kespa players will be by then (probably dominating).
MonDeW
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark369 Posts
August 08 2012 10:57 GMT
#168
This is kinda odd. I don't know much about Kespa, but they must have some very odd fundementals or power complexes, because this is just weird. Why couldn't you trade players from the same league?
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
August 08 2012 11:11 GMT
#169
I was waiting for some news on this. Thanks for posting it. It helps clarify a lot about the uncharted waters we're heading into.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Thehealbus
Profile Joined July 2011
38 Posts
August 08 2012 11:20 GMT
#170
This is more like kespa teams saying they will not be taking players on until 13 months is over.

I'm sure kespa players could leave if they wanted to.
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
August 08 2012 11:28 GMT
#171
Seems fair enough. A player should still be able to go over to another team if they really wanted to if their contract was up.
aka ilovesharkpeople
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
August 08 2012 11:30 GMT
#172
On August 08 2012 19:57 MonDeW wrote:
This is kinda odd. I don't know much about Kespa, but they must have some very odd fundementals or power complexes, because this is just weird. Why couldn't you trade players from the same league?


For once I don't think it's odd at all. It benefits both GOM and KeSPA.

GOM teams have an advantage in skill/experience in SC2, so poaching could happen mutually. Basically a one year moratorium on player transfers is not a big deal.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
August 08 2012 11:31 GMT
#173
I wonder what will end up happening to SlayerS? I mean, BoxeR MADE SKT.... It'd feel REALLY weird watching a SlayerS vs SKT match with BoxeR and iloveoov on opposite ends of the field.
A time to live.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51693 Posts
August 08 2012 11:41 GMT
#174
On August 08 2012 20:31 ShatterZer0 wrote:
I wonder what will end up happening to SlayerS? I mean, BoxeR MADE SKT.... It'd feel REALLY weird watching a SlayerS vs SKT match with BoxeR and iloveoov on opposite ends of the field.


Eh, while he was the face of SKT since their acquirement of 4U, his influence pretty much diminished within the company after he left for the military.
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crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1181 Posts
August 08 2012 11:41 GMT
#175
I think everyone will get benefits from this, except the fact that they can trade to foreign team.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
August 08 2012 11:46 GMT
#176
good move from what i can see.
Broodwar for life!
Opera
Profile Joined March 2011
France469 Posts
August 08 2012 11:48 GMT
#177
I think it's a good agreement for both parties. This way, Proleague won't be flooded by eSF players looking for easy success and money. It also protects the attractiveness of GSL since the best players will stay in it.

I think KeSPA hopes its players will be better than eSF players in October 2013
It ain't over till it's over
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
August 08 2012 11:50 GMT
#178
This is: Good.
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 11:52:37
August 08 2012 11:52 GMT
#179
I see why this is good for gsl but i fail to understand what kespa gets from this.
Now their players have to own. If not, No one will be left by 2013 to watch them.
Save gaming: kill esport
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
August 08 2012 11:59 GMT
#180
Players who just recently quit their teams: "Dagnabbit"
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
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