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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On August 08 2012 23:02 ragz_gt wrote: No it does not apply to foreign scene. It's just between KeSPA and eSF, which is just IM, MVP, ST, Prime, TSL, NSH. I forgot was FXO included or not, since it was foreign owned. Pretty sure FXOBoss was one of the guys that made ESF, so FXO is definitely a part of that as well. | ||
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SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
On August 08 2012 23:04 Fragile51 wrote: Pretty sure FXOBoss was one of the guys that made ESF, so FXO is definitely a part of that as well. yeah i think so too! | ||
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Cattlecruiser
United States340 Posts
So they will keep their roster of BW pros and hope they all develop into great sc2 players? The OVERALL level of sc2 in KeSPA will be far from GSTL's level until the ban is lifted. This move is terrible for popularization of sc2 in Korea. Even without the ban its not like KeSPA teams will cut any of their star players, only refresh some of their lower shelf players to help in team leagues and be practice partners for Flash, Jaedong, ect. This may explain the huge fluctuation of Koreans to foreign teams though. I bet NHSO, FXO, and TSL are jumping up and down now. | ||
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minilance
Canada500 Posts
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Arceus
Vietnam8332 Posts
This agreement is to make that determination clear and, as you guys have pointed out, a mean to help protect GSL teams | ||
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MyLastSerenade
Germany710 Posts
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AhOhitzXray
United States48 Posts
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soiii
Germany266 Posts
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IHaveArms
United Kingdom42 Posts
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KarlKaliente
United States434 Posts
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oXoCube
Canada197 Posts
On August 08 2012 22:52 .vid wrote: it's not cause kespa didnt allow them, it's cause they sucked. now stop being such a prick and blaming kespa for everything, including aliens landing on earth and making crop signs. On top of that, it wasn't even that long ago lol IdrA was on a kespa team for the first half of 2010 | ||
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
I think it would be so cool to see things like SlayersFlash, or KT Parting. | ||
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naastyOne
491 Posts
KeSPA may develop a few BW aces, but considering they allready lost a lot of mid-range players that transitioned to SC2 early, and the fact that GOM teams got a number of new, reasonably young and high potantial players, that will most probably get into main competition in 2013, i do not see how KeSpa teams will keep up without influx of new players. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On August 09 2012 00:16 naastyOne wrote: KeSPA teams will not match GOM teams, not in 2013, for sure. KeSPA may develop a few BW aces, but considering they allready lost a lot of mid-range players that transitioned to SC2 early, and the fact that GOM teams got a number of new, reasonably young and high potantial players, that will most probably get into main competition in 2013, i do not see how KeSpa teams will keep up without influx of new players. What  Reality are you living in where only kespa BW aces can compete at SC2? TBLS is posting really average results overall where as new and old blood are doing fine. | ||
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On August 08 2012 23:48 AhOhitzXray wrote: its just so the kespa players will be protected until they become good at sc2 This is protection for the GSTL teams. The Kespa teams are far more established, better funded and far more prestigious. Teams like Startale and IM, who have done a lot of good work for SC2 don't want their players jumping ship to someone who's late to the party. Not sure if this applies to ex-oGs members. I'm sure there are a few that fall into the gray area between Kespa and GSTL teams. edit: Startale and IM might be bad example since they seem to be doing well sponsorship wise with Red Bull and LG but think teams like old Zenex or NSHS, some Kespa teams could very well swallow them whole if this agreement was not in place. | ||
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Detri
United Kingdom683 Posts
On August 08 2012 23:17 Cattlecruiser wrote: This will hurt KeSPA (league) and help KeSPA (players). So they will keep their roster of BW pros and hope they all develop into great sc2 players? The OVERALL level of sc2 in KeSPA will be far from GSTL's level until the ban is lifted. This move is terrible for popularization of sc2 in Korea. Even without the ban its not like KeSPA teams will cut any of their star players, only refresh some of their lower shelf players to help in team leagues and be practice partners for Flash, Jaedong, ect. This may explain the huge fluctuation of Koreans to foreign teams though. I bet NHSO, FXO, and TSL are jumping up and down now. I see what you are saying, BUT I was under the impression that the real strength of the broodwar teams and KeSPA is the players? Flash, JD etc had transcended the team they were/are on and become a brand in their own right? I thought that was was kept BW alive for so long in Korea. Maybe someone can clarify as I'm fairly new to SC compared to the veterans on the forums, but that's the impression I got anyway. | ||
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Nazeron
Canada1046 Posts
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
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sephirotharg
United States91 Posts
As an aside, is GomTV known as Esports Federation? That's literally the first I've heard of any such group. | ||
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On August 09 2012 00:37 Detri wrote: I see what you are saying, BUT I was under the impression that the real strength of the broodwar teams and KeSPA is the players? Flash, JD etc had transcended the team they were/are on and become a brand in their own right? I thought that was was kept BW alive for so long in Korea. Maybe someone can clarify as I'm fairly new to SC compared to the veterans on the forums, but that's the impression I got anyway. The strength of Kespa teams is the long standing relationships with big sponsors. Sponsors know they are professional as fuck and can be trusted with their money. The Kespa players are the reason why Blizzard is interested. They are hoping that if Kespa players can switch over, eventually the many fans will follow and SC2 will be closer in popularity to BW, at least in Korea. | ||
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