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So foreign teams don't count since they aren't in esf(save fxo).
What is stopping teams from using foriegn teams as a medium? Why can't a Kespa player go to a foreign team then an esf team? Example: Let's say Jangbi wants to join Prime. Can't he join a foriegn team like EG (thus not being a Kespa player) and then join Prime?
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I wonder how similar this situation and the future between eF and Kespa is to American Football or Major League Baseball. American Football and MLB both became what they are today due to different organizations merging and/or competing directly with each other to choose a "World Champion."
Just think of the possibility in just a few years there being a yearly event pitting the best of eF against the best of Kespa. It would be EPIC!
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Does this mean that foreign teams can still get koreans? If so they may have just cockblocked eachother and gave foreign teams a free pass.
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On August 09 2012 03:14 Flossy wrote: So foreign teams don't count since they aren't in esf(save fxo).
What is stopping teams from using foriegn teams as a medium? Why can't a Kespa player go to a foreign team then an esf team? Example: Let's say Jangbi wants to join Prime. Can't he join a foriegn team like EG (thus not being a Kespa player) and then join Prime?
The rules aren't that retarded. Obviously shit will hit the fan if a stunt like that is pulled. Any players that were still playing for Kespa teams while the switch-over happened is not allowed on a foreign team until Oct 2013. You don't have to take it so literal.
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As far as I can tell... EG can still buy the best KeSPA players or KeSPA teams can buy players like Taeja on foreign teams?
Can't wait for EG.Soulkey
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great move if the statement is to be fully believed, makes sense for all the right reasons. I'm also excited by the fact that we will have two Korean leagues to follow with different skill levels, it will be cool to see the Kespa players develop in their own environment.
For the Future of ESPORTS!!
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I am most impressed by KeSPa selling this solution to their Sponsors.
Think about it from their point of view. Why should a company like Samsung or SK Telecom literally pay millions a year for potentially sub-par players which might very well be replaced/sacked comes October. What is in it for them?
From a purely business standpoint they should have done the exact opposite: buy the best GSL players, keep the few known figureheads from BW and bargain everybody's salary down ("SC2 is not big enough yet").
Imagine the next four OSL winners were all from IM or StarTale. People would be wearing their "Red Bull" and "LG" t-shirts and nobody would care about those second-rate "Samsung guys". How could you explain this to the CEO of Samsung? "Well, we know you have invested millions into ESPORT over the years and that was very nice of you. But you see, we accepted this Gentleman's agreement. And that is why you will have to bear with your loss of publicity. Ok?"
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On August 09 2012 03:34 Celimas wrote: As far as I can tell... EG can still buy the best KeSPA players or KeSPA teams can buy players like Taeja on foreign teams?
Can't wait for EG.Soulkey point 1. EG are merely a gaming clubs. KeSPA teams are big ass Korean corporations or even conglomerates who take their players to Hawaii for vacation. So plz no EG.[insert KeSPA player]. thats stupid point 2. KeSPA buying (ex)GSL players will be them admitting defeat that their players suck. Thats not gonna happen
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On August 09 2012 03:34 Celimas wrote: As far as I can tell... EG can still buy the best KeSPA players or KeSPA teams can buy players like Taeja on foreign teams?
Can't wait for EG.Soulkey
lol... Sorry but foreign teams can't offer more than Kespa teams do, nor will Kespa players leave a Kespa team to join a foreign one out of pride.
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On August 09 2012 03:49 IcedBacon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2012 03:34 Celimas wrote: As far as I can tell... EG can still buy the best KeSPA players or KeSPA teams can buy players like Taeja on foreign teams?
Can't wait for EG.Soulkey lol... Sorry but foreign teams can't offer more than Kespa teams do, nor will Kespa players leave a Kespa team to join a foreign one out of pride.
I dunno bout the pride part but yeah soulkey makes more money on his korean team then he would on a foreign team. The kespa teams all get good salaries (the good players obviously, I believe the new players get like 10-12k a year salaries from what I read in a magazine a few years ago but dont' know if that's still true today).
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Give the KeSPA players time to adjust sounds like a good idea. Sure most of them have the raw mechanical skill to become code-S champions but as we've seen this game is more about tactics and split-second decisions rather than mechanical mastery. I fully expect a few of the KeSPA players to emerge as "unbeatables" in a few months when they figure out the quirks in the game. With new "best player of race X" emerging and falling rather fast this says to me the game is still being figured out.
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On August 09 2012 03:49 IcedBacon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2012 03:34 Celimas wrote: As far as I can tell... EG can still buy the best KeSPA players or KeSPA teams can buy players like Taeja on foreign teams?
Can't wait for EG.Soulkey lol... Sorry but foreign teams can't offer more than Kespa teams do, nor will Kespa players leave a Kespa team to join a foreign one out of pride.
Why not? I should think that a player like Huk or Idra makes more money, as salary, than 90% of the KeSPA players. But maybe you have sources that a lot of people doesn't have. After all Boxer had more salary (personal sponsorship) than Flash, I have read.
...And what has pride to do with it? This sounds like speculation or maybe wishful thinking.
If you could cite some sources to these claims I would be very grateful.
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On August 09 2012 03:19 EagleShade wrote: I wonder how similar this situation and the future between eF and Kespa is to American Football or Major League Baseball. American Football and MLB both became what they are today due to different organizations merging and/or competing directly with each other to choose a "World Champion."
Just think of the possibility in just a few years there being a yearly event pitting the best of eF against the best of Kespa. It would be EPIC! I like to think of KeSPA and eSports Fed as the NFL and AFL (or their successor conferences NFC and AFC) of Starcraft. Now we just need a new team tournament for GSTL and PL teams to function as the SuperBowl of Starcraft. 
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On August 09 2012 03:49 IcedBacon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2012 03:34 Celimas wrote: As far as I can tell... EG can still buy the best KeSPA players or KeSPA teams can buy players like Taeja on foreign teams?
Can't wait for EG.Soulkey lol... Sorry but foreign teams can't offer more than Kespa teams do, nor will Kespa players leave a Kespa team to join a foreign one out of pride.
Well, if foreign teams can't offer more than Kespa does, what about a Kespa team buying Taeja or Puma?
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seems to benefit the organizations/teams to the detriment of the players. any anti-competitive move like this should be disallowed.
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On August 09 2012 03:59 StatorFlux wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2012 03:49 IcedBacon wrote:On August 09 2012 03:34 Celimas wrote: As far as I can tell... EG can still buy the best KeSPA players or KeSPA teams can buy players like Taeja on foreign teams?
Can't wait for EG.Soulkey lol... Sorry but foreign teams can't offer more than Kespa teams do, nor will Kespa players leave a Kespa team to join a foreign one out of pride. Why not? I should think that a player like Huk or Idra makes more money, as salary, than 90% of the KeSPA players. But maybe you have sources that a lot of people doesn't have. After all Boxer had more salary (personal sponsorship) than Flash, I have read. ...And what has pride to do with it? This sounds like speculation or maybe wishful thinking. If you could cite some sources to these claims I would be very grateful. Good luck marketing any Kespa player outside the top 10% more successfully that you would HuK or IdrA.
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On August 09 2012 03:59 StatorFlux wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2012 03:49 IcedBacon wrote:On August 09 2012 03:34 Celimas wrote: As far as I can tell... EG can still buy the best KeSPA players or KeSPA teams can buy players like Taeja on foreign teams?
Can't wait for EG.Soulkey lol... Sorry but foreign teams can't offer more than Kespa teams do, nor will Kespa players leave a Kespa team to join a foreign one out of pride. Why not? I should think that a player like Huk or Idra makes more money, as salary, than 90% of the KeSPA players. But maybe you have sources that a lot of people doesn't have. After all Boxer had more salary (personal sponsorship) than Flash, I have read. ...And what has pride to do with it? This sounds like speculation or maybe wishful thinking. If you could cite some sources to these claims I would be very grateful.
Never heard about Tossgirl crying when she lost to Idra? Koreans know they are the best and losing to foreigners is a big deal. So you can see how they probably prefer to train together rather than with foreigners on a foreign team. I don't get your point with Boxer, he made his fame and fortune as a KeSPA player.
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for now, i think the reasoning is to stop one organization from taking all of the talent while they are both establishing their role in korea through the next year
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On August 08 2012 14:55 Advantageous wrote: holy crap? 2013?! so after HotS comes out? and does this mean M18M's trade would be the only trade thats valid?
Wasn't he from Air Force? Didn't they disband?
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