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On August 09 2012 03:14 Flossy wrote:
So foreign teams don't count since they aren't in esf(save fxo).
What is stopping teams from using foreign teams as a medium? Why can't a Kespa player go to a foreign team then an esf team?
Example: Let's say Jangbi wants to join Prime. Can't he join a foriegn team like EG (thus not being a Kespa player) and then join Prime?
Well okay......
Scenario Time:
1) Jangbi leaves Kespa in October
2) Jangbi signs a 1 yr contract with EG
3) Jangbi is released OCT 2013.
Plus Kespa isn't worried about losing players at the moment(Since non-are proven), their worried about GOM players coming in. And they have the power to reject any player attempting to enter a Kespa team.
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People really need to stop bringing up EG as if it was ever possible they'd be recruiting big names. They are the biggest tuna fish, sure, but that doesn't mean much in the ocean. Players like Jaedong and Flash have million dollar contracts. I would go so far as to say that all foreign teams combined couldn't afford Flash. Kespa teams are on a completely different level.
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Foreign teams arent on KESPA or this sc2 esports something something that korean teams made, so there's technically no stopping foreign teams from buying KESPA players when their licence/contract run out. ALTHOUGH, those players would be mist likely banned from KESPA nad GOM tournaments permanently if that happens.
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14 months of locked in teams, I'm okay with that
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interesting, thats a long time though :/
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People proposing stupid trades and work arounds; they won't work. It isn't like KeSPA and the federation is going to be like Oh you cute player you, I guess you got around our rules! If they try to pull a stunt off to work around the agreement, they'll probably have their license revoked, and not be able to play in most major tournaments.
No one in Esports is currently big enough to fuck with another major part of Esports and get away with it. No foreign team is going to risk pissing off Koreans and completely screwing themselves out of doing business in Korea. Pretend the agreement said "KeSPA players are isolated in their own little world until October of 2013, as far as teams are concerned.", because that is pretty much what this is.
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On August 08 2012 14:31 figq wrote:
No EG.Flash vs Liquid`Jaedong anytime soon then.
They don't mention coach-acquisition though and "retirements" - i.e. BW player retires from ACE, goes to SC2 team; or GSL player quits progaming and goes coach for a Kespa team. Such moves still seem possible.
LiquidBisu yes though ; )
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On August 09 2012 06:40 Sikly wrote:
People proposing stupid trades and work arounds; they won't work. It isn't like KeSPA and the federation is going to be like Oh you cute player you, I guess you got around our rules! If they try to pull a stunt off to work around the agreement, they'll probably have their license revoked, and not be able to play in most major tournaments.
No one in Esports is currently big enough to fuck with another major part of Esports and get away with it. No foreign team is going to risk pissing off Koreans and completely screwing themselves out of doing business in Korea. Pretend the agreement said "KeSPA players are isolated in their own little world until October of 2013, as far as teams are concerned.", because that is pretty much what this is.
Well KeSPA is a fucking terrible organization...
I think most of us can agree on that...
Not sure if this was bad or good though, we will see!!
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I feel like if foreign organizations try something funny they'll just get kicked out of whatever GOM partnership they're in and not be allowed to compete in GSTl/GSL.
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Why wouldn't they merge both leagues, so that eSports Federation can be recognized by the ministry of Culture, then it would be fair, i think. Hope to see good games, surprises, and new strategies ! I want to see KeSPA players in GSL !
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On August 09 2012 05:00 Mohdoo wrote:
People really need to stop bringing up EG as if it was ever possible they'd be recruiting big names. They are the biggest tuna fish, sure, but that doesn't mean much in the ocean. Players like Jaedong and Flash have million dollar contracts. I would go so far as to say that all foreign teams combined couldn't afford Flash. Kespa teams are on a completely different level.
They don't have million dollar contracts.
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i read 2013 and the first thing i thought was, "oh god blizzard please please please PLEASE make HOTS what it needs to be!"
so damn much is riding on SC2 becoming THE rts of e-sports. I always felt BW being around was a sort of safety net for the RTS world.
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On August 08 2012 14:31 figq wrote:
No EG.Flash vs Liquid`Jaedong anytime soon then.
They don't mention coach-acquisition though and "retirements" - i.e. BW player retires from ACE, goes to SC2 team; or GSL player quits progaming and goes coach for a Kespa team. Such moves still seem possible.
Liquid and EG aren't ESF afiak? Or do all GSTL teams fall under this agreement?
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On August 09 2012 06:28 MooMooMugi wrote:
14 months of locked in teams, I'm okay with that
No it is a 14 month barrier between two sets of teams. If SKT wanted to get a player from Team 8 they could do it. If a player from Prime wanted to join Slayers after their contract expires, he could do it. If SKT wanted to get that same player from prime instead of team 8 this would stop that.
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On August 09 2012 07:30 NOOBALOPSE wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 14:31 figq wrote:
No EG.Flash vs Liquid`Jaedong anytime soon then.
They don't mention coach-acquisition though and "retirements" - i.e. BW player retires from ACE, goes to SC2 team; or GSL player quits progaming and goes coach for a Kespa team. Such moves still seem possible. LiquidBisu yes though ; )
Are you talking about the real Bisu, or Crank? Because Crank and Sheth play together all the time (including right now), and Crank's looking for a foreign team ^^
Anyways, I guess this agreement is good for the e-sports community, although I'm surprised the agreement is going to last until next October.
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On August 09 2012 06:40 Sikly wrote:
People proposing stupid trades and work arounds; they won't work. It isn't like KeSPA and the federation is going to be like Oh you cute player you, I guess you got around our rules! If they try to pull a stunt off to work around the agreement, they'll probably have their license revoked, and not be able to play in most major tournaments.
No one in Esports is currently big enough to fuck with another major part of Esports and get away with it. No foreign team is going to risk pissing off Koreans and completely screwing themselves out of doing business in Korea. Pretend the agreement said "KeSPA players are isolated in their own little world until October of 2013, as far as teams are concerned.", because that is pretty much what this is.
this
there is likely a clause that states no current gsl team member can join a kespa team, or vice-versa, until 10/13.
If anything, this is bad for the GSL players, as their contracts will essentially be that of a "minor-league" contract compared to the monster contracts kespa can wield.
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how will this affect slayers
because i remember the announcement about the esports federation, and SlayerS was not listed among those teams
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On August 09 2012 09:30 Mcleod21 wrote:
how will this affect slayers
because i remember the announcement about the esports federation, and SlayerS was not listed among those teams
It is stated that SlayerS is part of this agreement.
This agreement prohibits KeSPA-affiliated teams to acquire players from eSports Federation (including SlayerS) until October 2013
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It's a good move to protect the current Kespa players and the non-kespa teams.
Non-kespa teams benefit because their players don't get 'bought out' by richer teams like SKT/KT
Kespa players don't get overshadowed because of recruiting more experienced GSL players. They get to keep their job and a chance to show them they can be competitive versus GSL players. It's essentially a 1 year grace period for them.
My prediction: In a few years, we may see some GSTL teams merging with the big korean teams. Heaps of top SC2 players would kill for a $50,000-$70,000 salary from KT/SKT
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Wow, a lot of you guys are missing the big picture here. Kespa is being unselfish and doing something that's good for the e-sports in Korea, for once. This also highlights the failure of GOM to market the SC2 inside Korea in the past two years.
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