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On August 01 2012 22:00 Kambing wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 21:59 Dingobloo wrote:On August 01 2012 21:56 Kambing wrote:On August 01 2012 21:50 An2quamaraN wrote:
Did Blizzard just crash e-sports? Am I missing something here?
All the tournaments games are custom games, right?
You can't play the game without patching, right?
Therefore, until the fix, there can't be no competitive matches of any sort? No, there's a workaround. See the post above yours. And this will probably get patched asap anyways. The work around is incorrect, Daybreak LE on the US server still suffers from the old patch data problem even if you create it through the Create Game interface and there may be others so it's a bit of a mine field. Not sure what to say. I literally just played a custom on Daybreak LE using this method and everything was fine. (And just played another custom with a friend to test. Everything's good. Make sure you don't have "Join Game" selected when you do this.)
Tested it and the plot thickens:
Launching it with Create Game... old patch
Bookmarking it first then launching it with Create Game... new patch
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On August 01 2012 22:07 Dingobloo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 22:00 Kambing wrote:On August 01 2012 21:59 Dingobloo wrote:On August 01 2012 21:56 Kambing wrote:On August 01 2012 21:50 An2quamaraN wrote:
Did Blizzard just crash e-sports? Am I missing something here?
All the tournaments games are custom games, right?
You can't play the game without patching, right?
Therefore, until the fix, there can't be no competitive matches of any sort? No, there's a workaround. See the post above yours. And this will probably get patched asap anyways. The work around is incorrect, Daybreak LE on the US server still suffers from the old patch data problem even if you create it through the Create Game interface and there may be others so it's a bit of a mine field. Not sure what to say. I literally just played a custom on Daybreak LE using this method and everything was fine. (And just played another custom with a friend to test. Everything's good. Make sure you don't have "Join Game" selected when you do this.) Tested it and the plot thickens: Launching it with Create Game... old patch Bookmarking it first then launching it with Create Game... new patch
I just ran WCS Daybreak LE which was not bookmarked and that had the new patch data as well.
I just realized that the create game menu only allows you to play blizzard maps. All custom maps go into the arcade where the patch data is definitely not being loaded correctly. So I take that back. This horks any competitions going on at the moment until they patch it.
(I'm not sure if the above is intentional behavior. A map maker would know better than me.)
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On August 01 2012 22:10 Kambing wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 22:07 Dingobloo wrote:On August 01 2012 22:00 Kambing wrote:On August 01 2012 21:59 Dingobloo wrote:On August 01 2012 21:56 Kambing wrote:On August 01 2012 21:50 An2quamaraN wrote:
Did Blizzard just crash e-sports? Am I missing something here?
All the tournaments games are custom games, right?
You can't play the game without patching, right?
Therefore, until the fix, there can't be no competitive matches of any sort? No, there's a workaround. See the post above yours. And this will probably get patched asap anyways. The work around is incorrect, Daybreak LE on the US server still suffers from the old patch data problem even if you create it through the Create Game interface and there may be others so it's a bit of a mine field. Not sure what to say. I literally just played a custom on Daybreak LE using this method and everything was fine. (And just played another custom with a friend to test. Everything's good. Make sure you don't have "Join Game" selected when you do this.) Tested it and the plot thickens: Launching it with Create Game... old patch Bookmarking it first then launching it with Create Game... new patch I just ran WCS Daybreak LE which was not bookmarked and that had the new patch data as well. I just realized that the create game menu only allows you to play blizzard maps. All custom maps go into the arcade where the patch data is definitely not being loaded correctly. So I take that back. This horks any competitions going on at the moment until they patch it.
not WCS, WCS is fine, normal Daybreak LE is not.
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On August 01 2012 22:10 Dingobloo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 22:10 Kambing wrote:On August 01 2012 22:07 Dingobloo wrote:On August 01 2012 22:00 Kambing wrote:On August 01 2012 21:59 Dingobloo wrote:On August 01 2012 21:56 Kambing wrote:On August 01 2012 21:50 An2quamaraN wrote:
Did Blizzard just crash e-sports? Am I missing something here?
All the tournaments games are custom games, right?
You can't play the game without patching, right?
Therefore, until the fix, there can't be no competitive matches of any sort? No, there's a workaround. See the post above yours. And this will probably get patched asap anyways. The work around is incorrect, Daybreak LE on the US server still suffers from the old patch data problem even if you create it through the Create Game interface and there may be others so it's a bit of a mine field. Not sure what to say. I literally just played a custom on Daybreak LE using this method and everything was fine. (And just played another custom with a friend to test. Everything's good. Make sure you don't have "Join Game" selected when you do this.) Tested it and the plot thickens: Launching it with Create Game... old patch Bookmarking it first then launching it with Create Game... new patch I just ran WCS Daybreak LE which was not bookmarked and that had the new patch data as well. I just realized that the create game menu only allows you to play blizzard maps. All custom maps go into the arcade where the patch data is definitely not being loaded correctly. So I take that back. This horks any competitions going on at the moment until they patch it. not WCS, WCS is fine, normal Daybreak LE is not.
Yeah I ran both Daybreak LE and WCS Daybreak LE. Both worked. Bookmarked and non-bookmarked. I haven't had an instance where I've gotten the old patch data as long as I created the game via the Create Game menu.
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On August 01 2012 22:12 Kambing wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 22:10 Dingobloo wrote:On August 01 2012 22:10 Kambing wrote:On August 01 2012 22:07 Dingobloo wrote:On August 01 2012 22:00 Kambing wrote:On August 01 2012 21:59 Dingobloo wrote:On August 01 2012 21:56 Kambing wrote:On August 01 2012 21:50 An2quamaraN wrote:
Did Blizzard just crash e-sports? Am I missing something here?
All the tournaments games are custom games, right?
You can't play the game without patching, right?
Therefore, until the fix, there can't be no competitive matches of any sort? No, there's a workaround. See the post above yours. And this will probably get patched asap anyways. The work around is incorrect, Daybreak LE on the US server still suffers from the old patch data problem even if you create it through the Create Game interface and there may be others so it's a bit of a mine field. Not sure what to say. I literally just played a custom on Daybreak LE using this method and everything was fine. (And just played another custom with a friend to test. Everything's good. Make sure you don't have "Join Game" selected when you do this.) Tested it and the plot thickens: Launching it with Create Game... old patch Bookmarking it first then launching it with Create Game... new patch I just ran WCS Daybreak LE which was not bookmarked and that had the new patch data as well. I just realized that the create game menu only allows you to play blizzard maps. All custom maps go into the arcade where the patch data is definitely not being loaded correctly. So I take that back. This horks any competitions going on at the moment until they patch it. not WCS, WCS is fine, normal Daybreak LE is not. Yeah I ran both Daybreak LE and WCS Daybreak LE. Both worked. Bookmarked and non-bookmarked. I haven't had an instance where I've gotten the old patch data as long as I created the game via the Create Game menu.
What method are you using to check? I'm just launching in as zerg and checking overlord speed.
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Roaches are 1 Supply ? NICE, INSTA SWITCH TO ZERG XDDDDDDDDD
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On August 01 2012 22:13 NexCa wrote:
Roaches are 1 Supply ? NICE, INSTA SWITCH TO ZERG XDDDDDDDDD
That's fine, 5-rax reaper will kill zergs nice and easy with the old stats 
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LOL roaches 1 supply. Time to play some Zerg customs xD
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On August 01 2012 22:13 Dingobloo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 22:12 Kambing wrote:On August 01 2012 22:10 Dingobloo wrote:On August 01 2012 22:10 Kambing wrote:On August 01 2012 22:07 Dingobloo wrote:On August 01 2012 22:00 Kambing wrote:On August 01 2012 21:59 Dingobloo wrote:On August 01 2012 21:56 Kambing wrote:On August 01 2012 21:50 An2quamaraN wrote:
Did Blizzard just crash e-sports? Am I missing something here?
All the tournaments games are custom games, right?
You can't play the game without patching, right?
Therefore, until the fix, there can't be no competitive matches of any sort? No, there's a workaround. See the post above yours. And this will probably get patched asap anyways. The work around is incorrect, Daybreak LE on the US server still suffers from the old patch data problem even if you create it through the Create Game interface and there may be others so it's a bit of a mine field. Not sure what to say. I literally just played a custom on Daybreak LE using this method and everything was fine. (And just played another custom with a friend to test. Everything's good. Make sure you don't have "Join Game" selected when you do this.) Tested it and the plot thickens: Launching it with Create Game... old patch Bookmarking it first then launching it with Create Game... new patch I just ran WCS Daybreak LE which was not bookmarked and that had the new patch data as well. I just realized that the create game menu only allows you to play blizzard maps. All custom maps go into the arcade where the patch data is definitely not being loaded correctly. So I take that back. This horks any competitions going on at the moment until they patch it. not WCS, WCS is fine, normal Daybreak LE is not. Yeah I ran both Daybreak LE and WCS Daybreak LE. Both worked. Bookmarked and non-bookmarked. I haven't had an instance where I've gotten the old patch data as long as I created the game via the Create Game menu. What method are you using to check? I'm just launching in as zerg and checking overlord speed.
Starcraft -> Custom Games -> Create Game -> (Select Map) -> Create Game -> Start Game
And then check OL speed + roach supply on larva. 0.59 and 2 respecitvely each time.
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And now that I'm futzing around with it, some arcade maps are fine too. Just spot-checked GSL Metropolis through the Arcade interface and everything seems to be in working order.
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On August 01 2012 22:19 Kambing wrote:
And now that I'm futzing around with it, some arcade maps are fine too. Just spot-checked GSL Metropolis through the Arcade interface and everything seems to be in working order.
Yeah I think it's completely unrelated, and judging by the fact that we're getting different results it might even be client-related, because I'm 100% sure I'm going through the same motions as you and getting 0.47 speed overlords and 3 range queens.
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On August 01 2012 22:21 Dingobloo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 22:19 Kambing wrote:
And now that I'm futzing around with it, some arcade maps are fine too. Just spot-checked GSL Metropolis through the Arcade interface and everything seems to be in working order. Yeah I think it's completely unrelated, and judging by the fact that we're getting different results it might even be client-related, because I'm 100% sure I'm going through the same motions as you and getting 0.47 speed overlords and 3 range queens.
o_O
Sec. Recording this so you can see exactly what I'm doing. That would hurt my brain a bit if it's client related.
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On August 01 2012 22:14 Rannasha wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 22:13 NexCa wrote:
Roaches are 1 Supply ? NICE, INSTA SWITCH TO ZERG XDDDDDDDDD That's fine, 5-rax reaper will kill zergs nice and easy with the old stats
haha, got me 
but seriously, hope Blizzard fix those problems within the next few days
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Nice. Now that I'm recording I got the broken version. Will be able to look back at the twitch footage to see what was different...
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http://www.twitch.tv/kambingsc/b/327012482
Ok, so it looks like when I created a custom game from the create game menu directly that it caused the old patch data to be used (0:08, 1:32) . This was repeatable until I switched the filter (to bookmarks) which caused the map to use the new patch data (2:25). At 3:25, I jump into Daybreak LE directly after clicking create game and it uses the old balance data. At 4:10, I click create game, switch the filter to Blizzard maps, and then I get the new data. Making one final new game at 5:30 with the filter already set to Blizzard maps gives me the new data.
Looking back, it seems like the popular filter s the one that is selected whenever I get the old data. Doing one more test explicitly selecting the game with the popular filter enabled gives me the old data. You want to check to see if you get the same behavior?
Select a game from Create Game with the Popular filter on vs. the Blizzard or Bookmarked filters on.
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On August 01 2012 22:38 Kambing wrote:http://www.twitch.tv/kambingsc/b/327012482Ok, so it looks like when I created a custom game from the create game menu directly that it caused the old patch data to be used (0:08, 1:32) . This was repeatable until I switched the filter (to bookmarks) which caused the map to use the new patch data (2:25). At 3:25, I jump into Daybreak LE directly after clicking create game and it uses the old balance data. At 4:10, I click create game, switch the filter to Blizzard maps, and then I get the new data. Making one final new game at 5:30 with the filter already set to Blizzard maps gives me the new data. Looking back, it seems like the popular filter s the one that is selected whenever I get the old data. Doing one more test explicitly selecting the game with the popular filter enabled gives me the old data. You want to check to see if you get the same behavior? Select a game from Create Game with the Popular filter on vs. the Blizzard or Bookmarked filters on.
Yes, accurate, going through popular gives me old data, going through blizzard maps goes through new data.
Edit: I have to leave soon, but I still want to test if searching has any affect, but If I don't reply it's just because I've had to leave.
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It's weird. I just tried this on Cloud Kingdom LE and it appears to work fine on all filters (at least, the popular one where Daybreak LE breaks). So it's a map + filter specific bug apparently.
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Okay so searching 100% of the time (With Daybreak LE) is giving me old data as well regardless of which filter I have on, are you able to recreate that? Because that's definitely a problem.
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Yeah, same behavior for me. The filter becomes Search Results when you search. So it seems that the:
Popular
Recently Played
Search Results
filters cause Daybreak LE to load with old patch data. Cloud Kingdom LE works fine under all three filters.
That's bizarre, but we at least know what the specific workaround is: don't use those filters if you play on Daybreak.
EDIT: And I need to run off to work too (late >_<). Another VOD of my tests to arrive at the result above:
http://www.twitch.tv/kambingsc/b/327014338
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Kinda wish they'd launched this the day of an MLG, would have been a hell of a thing to watch.
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