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On July 21 2012 09:23 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 09:17 The Final Boss wrote:
I wonder if EG picking up RaidCall will be the team's first move at moving away from SlayerS and trying to acquire MMA. If MMA leaves SlayerS on rather controversial grounds, EG may not really be able to pick him up without getting rid of their partnership with SlayerS; this might help give them even more financial support possibly to start their own EG team house in Korea if EG-SlayerS falls apart. But this awesome news, great to see more sponsors for the StarCraft scene. i don't think EG will risk its relationship with Slayers--and by proxy other korean teams--over MMA. too much risk, and little benefit.
Quantic was able to split with IM and move on to join Quantic-StarTale. EG provides even more monetary incentives for Korean teams especially with this new sponsorship. And a player like MMA is not only a GSL champion, but he is incredibly popular in the foreign scene and Korea. I hate to say it, but SlayerS is sort of falling apart and EG might decide to abandon ship with them in order to pick up MMA and move along. That's just a theory of what could happen, they could also be getting ready to acquire Stephano, perhaps.
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On July 21 2012 13:22 The Final Boss wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 09:23 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 21 2012 09:17 The Final Boss wrote:
I wonder if EG picking up RaidCall will be the team's first move at moving away from SlayerS and trying to acquire MMA. If MMA leaves SlayerS on rather controversial grounds, EG may not really be able to pick him up without getting rid of their partnership with SlayerS; this might help give them even more financial support possibly to start their own EG team house in Korea if EG-SlayerS falls apart. But this awesome news, great to see more sponsors for the StarCraft scene. i don't think EG will risk its relationship with Slayers--and by proxy other korean teams--over MMA. too much risk, and little benefit. Quantic was able to split with IM and move on to join Quantic-StarTale. EG provides even more monetary incentives for Korean teams especially with this new sponsorship. And a player like MMA is not only a GSL champion, but he is incredibly popular in the foreign scene and Korea. I hate to say it, but SlayerS is sort of falling apart and EG might decide to abandon ship with them in order to pick up MMA and move along. That's just a theory of what could happen, they could also be getting ready to acquire Stephano, perhaps.
i was referring to the fact that they wont take a player from a korean team while the player is under contract--not that they would break a relationship with a team. there was that whole debacle before over whether EG was stealing players from korean teams and everyone was in an uproar.
here it is:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=245970
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congrats EG
what will the player ID's be?
EGRC?
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On July 21 2012 13:22 The Final Boss wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 09:23 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 21 2012 09:17 The Final Boss wrote:
I wonder if EG picking up RaidCall will be the team's first move at moving away from SlayerS and trying to acquire MMA. If MMA leaves SlayerS on rather controversial grounds, EG may not really be able to pick him up without getting rid of their partnership with SlayerS; this might help give them even more financial support possibly to start their own EG team house in Korea if EG-SlayerS falls apart. But this awesome news, great to see more sponsors for the StarCraft scene. i don't think EG will risk its relationship with Slayers--and by proxy other korean teams--over MMA. too much risk, and little benefit. Quantic was able to split with IM and move on to join Quantic-StarTale. EG provides even more monetary incentives for Korean teams especially with this new sponsorship. And a player like MMA is not only a GSL champion, but he is incredibly popular in the foreign scene and Korea. I hate to say it, but SlayerS is sort of falling apart and EG might decide to abandon ship with them in order to pick up MMA and move along. That's just a theory of what could happen, they could also be getting ready to acquire Stephano, perhaps.
SlayerS is sort of falling apart? They're in the GSTL semi-finals mostly without MMA playing - they're also in the winners final of IPL TAC3 I think? Ace players get demoted to B team, it's not entirely uncommon, hell, pretty sure ealier this year(or maybe last year) Fantasy was demoted to SKT1's B team because of poor results. It's not a sign of falling apart at all -___-
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On July 21 2012 12:14 Surrealistic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 11:53 ensign_lee wrote:On July 21 2012 11:25 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Always nice to see the TL Forum's legendary maturity in their unambiguous support of the growth of the SC2 scene and the e-sport business.
Oh, wait. It devolved into EG bashing right from the get-go. Yes, let's shit on one of the few teams that manages to be a sustainable business in the e-sports world despite focusing purely on e-sports. It's funny how a name can poison the entire way you're perceived. I think there would be far less EG hate if their name was *evil* geniuses. It makes them easier to hate when you can think of them as "the bad guys". I think people have always disliked the "big time, hollywood" mentality. I don't know about other sports, but in football (sawker to our Americans) people dislike teams with a big bank, buying the best players and winning championship using that method alone. It does leave a bad taste though doesn't it? If Stephano leaves Millenium - to EG which is probably the only team with a bank to acquire him - their only asset, then Millenium are probably going to crumble and disappear into obscurity.
The analogy falls completely flat when you consider what other teams are actually paying these players.
Consider Thorzain and Stephano, both extremely top tier players who were/are considering leaving pro-SC2 entirely to pursue university education and a better career.
Consider Puma, who could easily be another "boring Korean" if EG hadn't covered his expenses to go to dozens of international tournaments. And now, according to people at live events, he's an extremely popular player.
We're not comparing a million dollar franchise to another million dollar franchise. We're comparing one profitable, mature business to ones that are just getting by. Whether you like it or not, EG is one of the very few organizations that allows players to pursue pro-gaming careers as actual careers.
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On July 21 2012 13:35 Dodgin wrote:
congrats EG
what will the player ID's be?
EGRC?
EG?
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On July 21 2012 13:53 imperator-xy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 13:35 Dodgin wrote:
congrats EG
what will the player ID's be?
EGRC? EG?
What part of title sponsor don't you get?
Anyway EG won't pick up MMA, and if they tried they would make sure it's ok with SlayerS first, there's a lot of value in SlayerS outside of LG-IM, SlayerS are one of the most marketable Korean teams there are and their ability to bring no names out of the blue is close to unrivaled, you don't risk that relationship over signing a slumping player.
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On July 21 2012 13:53 imperator-xy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 13:35 Dodgin wrote:
congrats EG
what will the player ID's be?
EGRC? EG?
Title sponsor typically means you put their name into your player ID for more exposure, like LG-IM.
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On July 21 2012 07:09 sickoota wrote:
Damn man the bussiness side of EG must be sick they keep getting sponsors despite horrendous results and polarizing (at best) personalities.
Well, results are important but I'm guessing not that much when you consider the sponsors. For example I know that Millenium is the team of Stephano, and Stephano is highly successful but I just can't name one Millenium sponsor. Nor can I for Fnatic or TeamEmpire or something. EG is very good at promoting their sponsors. I can name five maybe even more EG sponsors.
Results are great but even if theoretically you would be a very very good player, the competition is very high and it's really not possible to win or place high in tournaments when you consider Koreans. (Some exceptions like Stephano exist but that is because he is a very, very, very amazing player)
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On July 21 2012 10:30 VPVanek wrote:
I really don't like EG as a team, or company.
What is their model, to win?
What have you won as a team.. Nothing.
All of you're players have done absolutely nothing, and since joining usually get worse.
They have a team house, that from what it sounds like is just a place where you can play starcraft if you want, and then fuck off for the rest of the time.
Congrats RC, sponsor a team that isn't going anywhere, rather than a team like lovely liquid <33
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why are you upset? they get sponsors because sponsors benefit from sponsoring eg.
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On July 21 2012 08:12 Liquid`NonY wrote:
It's just that puffery may be legally okay but I don't believe it meets standards we ought to hold ourselves to on the forums. If a statement isn't meant to be taken seriously, it must have some value outside of its literal meaning in order to be worth our time, like humor.
The relationship a consumer has with an advertisement is very different from the relationship one of our forum members has with a post. When claims are made that can't be backed up, especially by people who are not veterans of our community, we call bullshit and get rid of them.
edit: In other words, if everyone thinks puffery is now a perfectly acceptable defense of claims made in posts, then you've all lost your fucking minds.
In typical nony fashion he will make a controversial statement that will be picked apart by the forum users only for him to ignore all of them and never respond. Then he might be asked about it on SoTG where he will assert that he is right and anyone who is wrong has "lost their fucking minds" or another beautiful and well thought out defense. And that will be the end of it. Same thing happened with disagreeing with dreamhack's map choices or basically almost any post he makes. It would be a lot better if you responded to people disagreeing with you directly, and, perhaps (maybe Im asking for too much here), without calling them names.
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Stop sponsoring EG and start sponsoring the other teams already :p DO NOT WANT
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On July 21 2012 22:27 Schelim wrote:
EGRCJYP inc
would be awesome to hear apollo say that name <3
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On July 21 2012 13:22 The Final Boss wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 09:23 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 21 2012 09:17 The Final Boss wrote:
I wonder if EG picking up RaidCall will be the team's first move at moving away from SlayerS and trying to acquire MMA. If MMA leaves SlayerS on rather controversial grounds, EG may not really be able to pick him up without getting rid of their partnership with SlayerS; this might help give them even more financial support possibly to start their own EG team house in Korea if EG-SlayerS falls apart. But this awesome news, great to see more sponsors for the StarCraft scene. i don't think EG will risk its relationship with Slayers--and by proxy other korean teams--over MMA. too much risk, and little benefit. Quantic was able to split with IM and move on to join Quantic-StarTale. EG provides even more monetary incentives for Korean teams especially with this new sponsorship. And a player like MMA is not only a GSL champion, but he is incredibly popular in the foreign scene and Korea. I hate to say it, but SlayerS is sort of falling apart and EG might decide to abandon ship with them in order to pick up MMA and move along. That's just a theory of what could happen, they could also be getting ready to acquire Stephano, perhaps.
They could pick up MMA. And potentially try and make a semi partnership so he could stay in the liquid house, after all huk is there, and mma seems like a friendly guy so i doubt this would be a problem from liquid side.
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This is great news! :D Although everytime i hear the name RaidCall I can't help but think of the bug spray "Raid" and think that EG is sponsoring Bug repellent >.< lol
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Welp the rich get richer. I don't like some of the decisions they have made, but they know how to make esports into a good business. Nicely done by eg!
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MCSL getting bigger is the very very best part of this. It is like a foreign proleague.
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