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On July 21 2012 11:25 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Always nice to see the TL Forum's legendary maturity in their unambiguous support of the growth of the SC2 scene and the e-sport business.
Oh, wait. It devolved into EG bashing right from the get-go. Yes, let's shit on one of the few teams that manages to be a sustainable business in the e-sports world despite focusing purely on e-sports.
It's funny how a name can poison the entire way you're perceived. I think there would be far less EG hate if their name was *evil* geniuses.
It makes them easier to hate when you can think of them as "the bad guys".
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Im wondering how much money we talking about. Proberly shitloads but they gonna need it if the rumors of a major contract to a high profile player are true
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Getting the ladycall will be worth EG growing as a team. Congrats!
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On July 21 2012 11:53 ensign_lee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 11:25 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Always nice to see the TL Forum's legendary maturity in their unambiguous support of the growth of the SC2 scene and the e-sport business.
Oh, wait. It devolved into EG bashing right from the get-go. Yes, let's shit on one of the few teams that manages to be a sustainable business in the e-sports world despite focusing purely on e-sports. It's funny how a name can poison the entire way you're perceived. I think there would be far less EG hate if their name was *evil* geniuses. It makes them easier to hate when you can think of them as "the bad guys".
I think people have always disliked the "big time, hollywood" mentality. I don't know about other sports, but in football (sawker to our Americans) people dislike teams with a big bank, buying the best players and winning championship using that method alone. It does leave a bad taste though doesn't it? If Stephano leaves Millenium - to EG which is probably the only team with a bank to acquire him - their only asset, then Millenium are probably going to crumble and disappear into obscurity.
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sounds cool, their tournament has always been worth the watch even for the medium prize size, now it should be even better :D
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On July 21 2012 12:14 Surrealistic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 11:53 ensign_lee wrote:On July 21 2012 11:25 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Always nice to see the TL Forum's legendary maturity in their unambiguous support of the growth of the SC2 scene and the e-sport business.
Oh, wait. It devolved into EG bashing right from the get-go. Yes, let's shit on one of the few teams that manages to be a sustainable business in the e-sports world despite focusing purely on e-sports. It's funny how a name can poison the entire way you're perceived. I think there would be far less EG hate if their name was *evil* geniuses. It makes them easier to hate when you can think of them as "the bad guys". I think people have always disliked the "big time, hollywood" mentality. I don't know about other sports, but in football (sawker to our Americans) people dislike teams with a big bank, buying the best players and winning championship using that method alone. It does leave a bad taste though doesn't it? If Stephano leaves Millenium - to EG which is probably the only team with a bank to acquire him - their only asset, then Millenium are probably going to crumble and disappear into obscurity.
a good analogy is the yankees, they might be the winning-est team in basball history but they basically just throw money at the best players to always have the best roster.
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I don't think there will be any unhappiness with EG's player pickup :D.
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Always good to see more companies providing support for esports 
On July 21 2012 12:00 Benjamin99 wrote:
Im wondering how much money we talking about. Proberly shitloads but they gonna need it if the rumors of a major contract to a high profile player are true
Where was this rumor started?
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On July 21 2012 12:14 Surrealistic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 11:53 ensign_lee wrote:On July 21 2012 11:25 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Always nice to see the TL Forum's legendary maturity in their unambiguous support of the growth of the SC2 scene and the e-sport business.
Oh, wait. It devolved into EG bashing right from the get-go. Yes, let's shit on one of the few teams that manages to be a sustainable business in the e-sports world despite focusing purely on e-sports. It's funny how a name can poison the entire way you're perceived. I think there would be far less EG hate if their name was *evil* geniuses. It makes them easier to hate when you can think of them as "the bad guys". I think people have always disliked the "big time, hollywood" mentality. I don't know about other sports, but in football (sawker to our Americans) people dislike teams with a big bank, buying the best players and winning championship using that method alone. It does leave a bad taste though doesn't it? If Stephano leaves Millenium - to EG which is probably the only team with a bank to acquire him - their only asset, then Millenium are probably going to crumble and disappear into obscurity.
No, Millenium is a very strong team. They got one of the biggest Esport sites in EU and got great players like Feast,Forgg. If they lose Stephano yea it would be a huge lose but they wont crumble and disappear into obscurity I can promise you that
On July 21 2012 12:24 8mmspikes wrote:Always good to see more companies providing support for esports Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 12:00 Benjamin99 wrote:
Im wondering how much money we talking about. Proberly shitloads but they gonna need it if the rumors of a major contract to a high profile player are true Where was this rumor started?
Pretty much since Stephano spend 2 weeks in the EG lair and then ofcourse Stephano latest interview with Slasher and Wheat. Nothing officially was sayd but it sure sounded like this was the case
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On July 21 2012 08:12 Liquid`NonY wrote:
It's just that puffery may be legally okay but I don't believe it meets standards we ought to hold ourselves to on the forums. If a statement isn't meant to be taken seriously, it must have some value outside of its literal meaning in order to be worth our time, like humor.
The relationship a consumer has with an advertisement is very different from the relationship one of our forum members has with a post. When claims are made that can't be backed up, especially by people who are not veterans of our community, we call bullshit and get rid of them.
edit: In other words, if everyone thinks puffery is now a perfectly acceptable defense of claims made in posts, then you've all lost your fucking minds.
O_O
It's marketing tactics. Legally, as we both agree, marketing does allow firms to stretch the boundaries on provided information. What do you want them to say?
I don't understand how it's "unacceptable" - EG is not the first to post full press releases on this forum (that contain overglamorous praises) nor will they be the last. Look at Liquid's sponsor page and you will see similar claims, although to a lesser extent.
Decided to post evidence:
The easiest way to organize your music.
Tagalicious uses advanced audio analysis technology to automatically correct the coverart and tags for your entire music collection. Quickly convert files and tracks with indecipherable names and labels to an organized library of songs.
Really?
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Wow, really amazed at how good the voice software industry's doing.. i mean sponsoring Fnatic is one thing, but becoming title sponsor for EG... o.O. This pretty much means their financial contribution to the team is more than Intel's or Steelseries'. The only voice over internet company i would have thought able of such feats is Skype i guess. I think this is either a pretty big investment for RC or i really don't know shit about how much money this kind of software brings in.
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On July 21 2012 12:29 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 08:12 Liquid`NonY wrote:
It's just that puffery may be legally okay but I don't believe it meets standards we ought to hold ourselves to on the forums. If a statement isn't meant to be taken seriously, it must have some value outside of its literal meaning in order to be worth our time, like humor.
The relationship a consumer has with an advertisement is very different from the relationship one of our forum members has with a post. When claims are made that can't be backed up, especially by people who are not veterans of our community, we call bullshit and get rid of them.
edit: In other words, if everyone thinks puffery is now a perfectly acceptable defense of claims made in posts, then you've all lost your fucking minds. O_O It's marketing tactics. Legally, as we both agree, marketing does allow firms to stretch the boundaries on provided information. What do you want them to say? I don't understand how it's "unacceptable" - EG is not the first to post full press releases on this forum (that contain overglamorous praises) nor will they be the last. Look at Liquid's sponsor page and you will see similar claims, although to a lesser extent. Decided to post evidence: Show nested quote +The easiest way to organize your music.
Tagalicious uses advanced audio analysis technology to automatically correct the coverart and tags for your entire music collection. Quickly convert files and tracks with indecipherable names and labels to an organized library of songs. Really?
It's too late, we've all lost our fucking minds.
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how did raidcall get so much moneys. dont most players still use vent.
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On July 21 2012 12:36 aintz wrote:
how did raidcall get so much moneys. dont most players still use vent.
Not in China and they got a few people there
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On July 21 2012 12:36 aintz wrote:
how did raidcall get so much moneys. dont most players still use vent.
RaidCall is huge in Asia apparently. This is what Dignitas.Newman said on the GD Show
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On July 21 2012 09:13 VPreboot wrote:
It is good to see EG continue to solidify their financial position, hopefully this means another Master's Cup, a few more EG players in Korea and maybe a few more pickups. EG, unlike a lot of other teams, has not really tried to nurture players from the ground up (look at complexity's academy or Quantic's acquisition of Vile for examples) and instead just grab the top players at the time. I want them to really try to get a few promising players and bring them into the Lair rather than just grab a hot player like Stephano or Illusion.
I think they tried with Axslav/Strifecro... Axslav has been a pretty successful player even after being cut, while Strifecro not so much.
To be fair they're still trying to grow Machine/Lz/etc. - the thing is, why grow them if you can afford to buy them? Nurturing players doesn't do anything for the brand anyway, except in the 1/100 chance that one of them turns out to be very good. For every Thorzain/Stephano, there are 100 players that don't pan out.
More power to EG if they can afford them - sure it's like the NY Yankees, so it's understandable that people dislike them. But it's a winning model.
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On July 21 2012 12:38 Simsallabin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 12:36 aintz wrote:
how did raidcall get so much moneys. dont most players still use vent. Not in China and they got a few people there
Just a few:D
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EG has so many damn sponsors lol
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Congratz, always great to see teams doing well.
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