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EG welcomes RaidCall as title sponsor! - Page 7

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ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
July 21 2012 02:53 GMT
#121
On July 21 2012 11:25 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Always nice to see the TL Forum's legendary maturity in their unambiguous support of the growth of the SC2 scene and the e-sport business.

Oh, wait. It devolved into EG bashing right from the get-go. Yes, let's shit on one of the few teams that manages to be a sustainable business in the e-sports world despite focusing purely on e-sports.


It's funny how a name can poison the entire way you're perceived. I think there would be far less EG hate if their name was *evil* geniuses.

It makes them easier to hate when you can think of them as "the bad guys".
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
July 21 2012 03:00 GMT
#122
Im wondering how much money we talking about. Proberly shitloads but they gonna need it if the rumors of a major contract to a high profile player are true
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
July 21 2012 03:08 GMT
#123
Getting the ladycall will be worth EG growing as a team. Congrats!
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 21 2012 03:08 GMT
#124
gratz
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Surrealistic
Profile Joined September 2009
311 Posts
July 21 2012 03:14 GMT
#125
On July 21 2012 11:53 ensign_lee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 11:25 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Always nice to see the TL Forum's legendary maturity in their unambiguous support of the growth of the SC2 scene and the e-sport business.

Oh, wait. It devolved into EG bashing right from the get-go. Yes, let's shit on one of the few teams that manages to be a sustainable business in the e-sports world despite focusing purely on e-sports.


It's funny how a name can poison the entire way you're perceived. I think there would be far less EG hate if their name was *evil* geniuses.

It makes them easier to hate when you can think of them as "the bad guys".

I think people have always disliked the "big time, hollywood" mentality. I don't know about other sports, but in football (sawker to our Americans) people dislike teams with a big bank, buying the best players and winning championship using that method alone. It does leave a bad taste though doesn't it? If Stephano leaves Millenium - to EG which is probably the only team with a bank to acquire him - their only asset, then Millenium are probably going to crumble and disappear into obscurity.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
July 21 2012 03:17 GMT
#126
sounds cool, their tournament has always been worth the watch even for the medium prize size, now it should be even better :D
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
July 21 2012 03:18 GMT
#127
On July 21 2012 12:14 Surrealistic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 11:53 ensign_lee wrote:
On July 21 2012 11:25 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Always nice to see the TL Forum's legendary maturity in their unambiguous support of the growth of the SC2 scene and the e-sport business.

Oh, wait. It devolved into EG bashing right from the get-go. Yes, let's shit on one of the few teams that manages to be a sustainable business in the e-sports world despite focusing purely on e-sports.


It's funny how a name can poison the entire way you're perceived. I think there would be far less EG hate if their name was *evil* geniuses.

It makes them easier to hate when you can think of them as "the bad guys".

I think people have always disliked the "big time, hollywood" mentality. I don't know about other sports, but in football (sawker to our Americans) people dislike teams with a big bank, buying the best players and winning championship using that method alone. It does leave a bad taste though doesn't it? If Stephano leaves Millenium - to EG which is probably the only team with a bank to acquire him - their only asset, then Millenium are probably going to crumble and disappear into obscurity.

a good analogy is the yankees, they might be the winning-est team in basball history but they basically just throw money at the best players to always have the best roster.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 21 2012 03:22 GMT
#128
I don't think there will be any unhappiness with EG's player pickup :D.
8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
July 21 2012 03:24 GMT
#129
Always good to see more companies providing support for esports

On July 21 2012 12:00 Benjamin99 wrote:
Im wondering how much money we talking about. Proberly shitloads but they gonna need it if the rumors of a major contract to a high profile player are true


Where was this rumor started?

Suppy fan | ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ WELL MET ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ | http://www.twitter.com/8mmspikes
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 03:28:25
July 21 2012 03:25 GMT
#130
On July 21 2012 12:14 Surrealistic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 11:53 ensign_lee wrote:
On July 21 2012 11:25 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Always nice to see the TL Forum's legendary maturity in their unambiguous support of the growth of the SC2 scene and the e-sport business.

Oh, wait. It devolved into EG bashing right from the get-go. Yes, let's shit on one of the few teams that manages to be a sustainable business in the e-sports world despite focusing purely on e-sports.


It's funny how a name can poison the entire way you're perceived. I think there would be far less EG hate if their name was *evil* geniuses.

It makes them easier to hate when you can think of them as "the bad guys".

I think people have always disliked the "big time, hollywood" mentality. I don't know about other sports, but in football (sawker to our Americans) people dislike teams with a big bank, buying the best players and winning championship using that method alone. It does leave a bad taste though doesn't it? If Stephano leaves Millenium - to EG which is probably the only team with a bank to acquire him - their only asset, then Millenium are probably going to crumble and disappear into obscurity.


No, Millenium is a very strong team. They got one of the biggest Esport sites in EU and got great players like Feast,Forgg. If they lose Stephano yea it would be a huge lose but they wont crumble and disappear into obscurity I can promise you that

On July 21 2012 12:24 8mmspikes wrote:
Always good to see more companies providing support for esports

Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 12:00 Benjamin99 wrote:
Im wondering how much money we talking about. Proberly shitloads but they gonna need it if the rumors of a major contract to a high profile player are true


Where was this rumor started?



Pretty much since Stephano spend 2 weeks in the EG lair and then ofcourse Stephano latest interview with Slasher and Wheat. Nothing officially was sayd but it sure sounded like this was the case
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 03:33:08
July 21 2012 03:29 GMT
#131
On July 21 2012 08:12 Liquid`NonY wrote:
It's just that puffery may be legally okay but I don't believe it meets standards we ought to hold ourselves to on the forums. If a statement isn't meant to be taken seriously, it must have some value outside of its literal meaning in order to be worth our time, like humor.

The relationship a consumer has with an advertisement is very different from the relationship one of our forum members has with a post. When claims are made that can't be backed up, especially by people who are not veterans of our community, we call bullshit and get rid of them.

edit: In other words, if everyone thinks puffery is now a perfectly acceptable defense of claims made in posts, then you've all lost your fucking minds.


O_O

It's marketing tactics. Legally, as we both agree, marketing does allow firms to stretch the boundaries on provided information. What do you want them to say?

I don't understand how it's "unacceptable" - EG is not the first to post full press releases on this forum (that contain overglamorous praises) nor will they be the last. Look at Liquid's sponsor page and you will see similar claims, although to a lesser extent.

Decided to post evidence:

The easiest way to organize your music.

Tagalicious uses advanced audio analysis technology to automatically correct the coverart and tags for your entire music collection. Quickly convert files and tracks with indecipherable names and labels to an organized library of songs.


Really?
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
July 21 2012 03:34 GMT
#132
Wow, really amazed at how good the voice software industry's doing.. i mean sponsoring Fnatic is one thing, but becoming title sponsor for EG... o.O. This pretty much means their financial contribution to the team is more than Intel's or Steelseries'. The only voice over internet company i would have thought able of such feats is Skype i guess. I think this is either a pretty big investment for RC or i really don't know shit about how much money this kind of software brings in.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
July 21 2012 03:35 GMT
#133
On July 21 2012 12:29 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 08:12 Liquid`NonY wrote:
It's just that puffery may be legally okay but I don't believe it meets standards we ought to hold ourselves to on the forums. If a statement isn't meant to be taken seriously, it must have some value outside of its literal meaning in order to be worth our time, like humor.

The relationship a consumer has with an advertisement is very different from the relationship one of our forum members has with a post. When claims are made that can't be backed up, especially by people who are not veterans of our community, we call bullshit and get rid of them.

edit: In other words, if everyone thinks puffery is now a perfectly acceptable defense of claims made in posts, then you've all lost your fucking minds.


O_O

It's marketing tactics. Legally, as we both agree, marketing does allow firms to stretch the boundaries on provided information. What do you want them to say?

I don't understand how it's "unacceptable" - EG is not the first to post full press releases on this forum (that contain overglamorous praises) nor will they be the last. Look at Liquid's sponsor page and you will see similar claims, although to a lesser extent.

Decided to post evidence:

Show nested quote +
The easiest way to organize your music.

Tagalicious uses advanced audio analysis technology to automatically correct the coverart and tags for your entire music collection. Quickly convert files and tracks with indecipherable names and labels to an organized library of songs.


Really?


It's too late, we've all lost our fucking minds.
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
July 21 2012 03:36 GMT
#134
how did raidcall get so much moneys. dont most players still use vent.
Simsallabin
Profile Joined June 2012
Nepal216 Posts
July 21 2012 03:38 GMT
#135
On July 21 2012 12:36 aintz wrote:
how did raidcall get so much moneys. dont most players still use vent.


Not in China and they got a few people there
Woop!
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 21 2012 03:40 GMT
#136
On July 21 2012 12:36 aintz wrote:
how did raidcall get so much moneys. dont most players still use vent.

RaidCall is huge in Asia apparently. This is what Dignitas.Newman said on the GD Show
www.superbeerbrothers.com
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
July 21 2012 03:42 GMT
#137
On July 21 2012 09:13 VPreboot wrote:
It is good to see EG continue to solidify their financial position, hopefully this means another Master's Cup, a few more EG players in Korea and maybe a few more pickups. EG, unlike a lot of other teams, has not really tried to nurture players from the ground up (look at complexity's academy or Quantic's acquisition of Vile for examples) and instead just grab the top players at the time. I want them to really try to get a few promising players and bring them into the Lair rather than just grab a hot player like Stephano or Illusion.


I think they tried with Axslav/Strifecro... Axslav has been a pretty successful player even after being cut, while Strifecro not so much.

To be fair they're still trying to grow Machine/Lz/etc. - the thing is, why grow them if you can afford to buy them? Nurturing players doesn't do anything for the brand anyway, except in the 1/100 chance that one of them turns out to be very good. For every Thorzain/Stephano, there are 100 players that don't pan out.

More power to EG if they can afford them - sure it's like the NY Yankees, so it's understandable that people dislike them. But it's a winning model.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
July 21 2012 03:42 GMT
#138
On July 21 2012 12:38 Simsallabin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 12:36 aintz wrote:
how did raidcall get so much moneys. dont most players still use vent.


Not in China and they got a few people there


Just a few:D
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
July 21 2012 04:08 GMT
#139
EG has so many damn sponsors lol
eSports for life.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
July 21 2012 04:11 GMT
#140
Congratz, always great to see teams doing well.
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