Progamers selling account leveling services - Page 15

On July 17 2012 01:07 Cubu wrote:

Read the OP please.

On July 17 2012 01:40 aRyuujin wrote:
i have no problem with it. It basically acts like a smurf for the pro, and its a way for them to make money. Keep trucking naama

On July 17 2012 01:43 uikos wrote:
To those who don't care, let me ask you this: How is this /any/ different from paying someone to take your SATs for you? It's vaguely similar to become a professional gamer. There are many different ways to get exposure in the Starcraft scene, and one of the ways is to work your way to becoming GM. At the very least, it gives local recognition.

Regarding the SAT-analogy: YES, there's a smart kid who probably deserves to have more money. YES, these tests don't really mean much anyways (we all know kids who are extremely brilliant but just didn't score well on the SATs). YES, only idiots would pay for a service like this. YES, these tests are only a fraction of what you need to achieve your goal (in the case of Starcraft: becoming profession. In the case of education: getting into a good college). And YES, a lot of us (college-kids) have thought about tutoring high school kids for quick-money, and we just need to wave our SAT scores around to convince others we're a qualified tutor.

But would you really not mind if this was a common phenomeon?
And if you do (and I'll imagine that most of us would mind), how is selling GM accounts that drastically different from offering to take someone else's SAT? Is it ridicious to want a more legitimate Starcraft ladder?

I (obviously) don't know how an ideal GM system would be implemented (with updating, and MMR-decay and whatnot). But that being said, takes one mindset to say "An ideal GM is hard to make," and a completely different mindset to say "Well the GM system is broken anyways, so who the fuck cares?" And I seriously hope that everyone who said they were part of the latter truely meant to say they were part of the former.

On July 17 2012 01:43 uikos wrote:
To those who don't care, let me ask you this: How is this /any/ different from paying someone to take your SATs for you? It's vaguely similar to become a professional gamer. There are many different ways to get exposure in the Starcraft scene, and one of the ways is to work your way to becoming GM. At the very least, it gives local recognition.

Regarding the SAT-analogy: YES, there's a smart kid who probably deserves to have more money. YES, these tests don't really mean much anyways (we all know kids who are extremely brilliant but just didn't score well on the SATs). YES, only idiots would pay for a service like this. YES, these tests are only a fraction of what you need to achieve your goal (in the case of Starcraft: becoming profession. In the case of education: getting into a good college). And YES, a lot of us (college-kids) have thought about tutoring high school kids for quick-money, and we just need to wave our SAT scores around to convince others we're a qualified tutor.

But would you really not mind if this was a common phenomeon?
And if you do (and I'll imagine that most of us would mind), how is selling GM accounts that drastically different from offering to take someone else's SAT? Is it ridicious to want a more legitimate Starcraft ladder?

I (obviously) don't know how an ideal GM system would be implemented (with updating, and MMR-decay and whatnot). But that being said, takes one mindset to say "An ideal GM is hard to make," and a completely different mindset to say "Well the GM system is broken anyways, so who the fuck cares?" And I seriously hope that everyone who said they were part of the latter truely meant to say they were part of the former.

On July 16 2012 16:41 Le BucheRON wrote:
having someone level your account is just sad. Stupid and sad. That's all. No big deal.

On July 17 2012 01:45 Roxor9999 wrote:

Because nobody cares about your ladder rank except for yourself.

On July 17 2012 01:43 uikos wrote:
To those who don't care, let me ask you this: How is this /any/ different from paying someone to take your SATs for you? It's vaguely similar to become a professional gamer. There are many different ways to get exposure in the Starcraft scene, and one of the ways is to work your way to becoming GM. At the very least, it gives local recognition.

Regarding the SAT-analogy: YES, there's a smart kid who probably deserves to have more money. YES, these tests don't really mean much anyways (we all know kids who are extremely brilliant but just didn't score well on the SATs). YES, only idiots would pay for a service like this. YES, these tests are only a fraction of what you need to achieve your goal (in the case of Starcraft: becoming profession. In the case of education: getting into a good college). And YES, a lot of us (college-kids) have thought about tutoring high school kids for quick-money, and we just need to wave our SAT scores around to convince others we're a qualified tutor.

But would you really not mind if this was a common phenomeon?
And if you do (and I'll imagine that most of us would mind), how is selling GM accounts that drastically different from offering to take someone else's SAT? Is it ridicious to want a more legitimate Starcraft ladder?

I (obviously) don't know how an ideal GM system would be implemented (with updating, and MMR-decay and whatnot). But that being said, takes one mindset to say "An ideal GM is hard to make," and a completely different mindset to say "Well the GM system is broken anyways, so who the fuck cares?" And I seriously hope that everyone who said they were part of the latter truely meant to say they were part of the former.

On July 17 2012 01:56 ilbh wrote:
there are people legitimately struggling to get into GM and there is also a Blizzard tournament for GM players.

so, how is it not a big deal?

On July 17 2012 01:43 uikos wrote:
To those who don't care, let me ask you this: How is this /any/ different from paying someone to take your SATs for you? It's vaguely similar to become a professional gamer. There are many different ways to get exposure in the Starcraft scene, and one of the ways is to work your way to becoming GM. At the very least, it gives local recognition.

Regarding the SAT-analogy: YES, there's a smart kid who probably deserves to have more money. YES, these tests don't really mean much anyways (we all know kids who are extremely brilliant but just didn't score well on the SATs). YES, only idiots would pay for a service like this. YES, these tests are only a fraction of what you need to achieve your goal (in the case of Starcraft: becoming profession. In the case of education: getting into a good college). And YES, a lot of us (college-kids) have thought about tutoring high school kids for quick-money, and we just need to wave our SAT scores around to convince others we're a qualified tutor.

But would you really not mind if this was a common phenomeon?
And if you do (and I'll imagine that most of us would mind), how is selling GM accounts that drastically different from offering to take someone else's SAT? Is it ridicious to want a more legitimate Starcraft ladder?

I (obviously) don't know how an ideal GM system would be implemented (with updating, and MMR-decay and whatnot). But that being said, takes one mindset to say "An ideal GM is hard to make," and a completely different mindset to say "Well the GM system is broken anyways, so who the fuck cares?" And I seriously hope that everyone who said they were part of the latter truely meant to say they were part of the former.