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gun.slinger
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada258 Posts
July 16 2012 14:46 GMT
#241
Thanks a lot for dropping some names, make it really easier for a us to witchhunt!
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ZwuckeL
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany563 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 14:53:30
July 16 2012 14:53 GMT
#242
There is no difference between a pro-gamer leveling another guy's account for money or playing a new account from scratch on his own. The first 20 games will get noobs crushed in both cases. So what's the deal? OP sounds like some bored attention seeking kid
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
July 16 2012 14:54 GMT
#243
this shit took the halo matchmaking, which was already pure garbage, and made it completely and totally meaningless

not only does result in the individual getting a grossly inflated rank, it also artificially inflates the rank of anyone who plays a game against this person, due to them scoring huge points off their MMR

end result is that if this ever becomes a true epidemic, like it did in halo, master league will suddenly become meaningless

may a swift hammer crack the skulls of all professionals who do this shit
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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 15:01:49
July 16 2012 14:59 GMT
#244
You know... ST_Rainbow have the ads for powerleveling on his Stream for forever...

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I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Roxor9999
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands771 Posts
July 16 2012 15:01 GMT
#245
On July 16 2012 23:54 Zanno wrote:
this shit took the halo matchmaking, which was already pure garbage, and made it completely and totally meaningless

not only does result in the individual getting a grossly inflated rank, it also artificially inflates the rank of anyone who plays a game against this person, due to them scoring huge points off their MMR

end result is that if this ever becomes a true epidemic, like it did in halo, master league will suddenly become meaningless

may a swift hammer crack the skulls of all professionals who do this shit

Except for that will only happen if more then 50% of the player base does this.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
July 16 2012 15:07 GMT
#246
On July 16 2012 23:59 ragz_gt wrote:
You know... ST_Rainbow have the ads for powerleveling on his Stream for forever...

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lol i was just about to post this...
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
July 16 2012 15:08 GMT
#247
Frankly, as far as establishing Top 200 players goes, GM is a total joke, which is totally the fault of Blizzard for implementing it the way they did. Aside from that, I find it very difficult to care about this happening. I don't really see anyone getting hurt by this, and if a bunch of idiots want to donate some money to pros who often need it, then I'm not going to stop them.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 16 2012 15:11 GMT
#248
It's not a problem at all. As for your reasons:

1) Who cares about the EULA? I mean, really?

2) This no more hurts players than pros having 5 GM accounts hurts players.

3) Guilty by association? Lol.

4) Not really a problem with account levelling itself.

5) Baseless speculation

Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
July 16 2012 15:12 GMT
#249
On July 16 2012 23:54 Zanno wrote:
this shit took the halo matchmaking, which was already pure garbage, and made it completely and totally meaningless

not only does result in the individual getting a grossly inflated rank, it also artificially inflates the rank of anyone who plays a game against this person, due to them scoring huge points off their MMR

end result is that if this ever becomes a true epidemic, like it did in halo, master league will suddenly become meaningless

may a swift hammer crack the skulls of all professionals who do this shit


Im trying to figure out which halo system you are referring to. Halo Reach uses a hidden MMR system with no real ranks but its arena is closest to the blizzard ranking system (it also is terrible) but the way your post talks about it it seems like you are referring to the 2-3 matchmaking system which for those who dont know is a rank 1-50 style system where if you lose you go down and if you win you go up which as a whole was the best MM system ive ever played on a game.

The problem with having a cool reward at the top is that people will do whatever it takes to get it (including hacking) but preventing that is the job of the game company. The beauty of Halo's system (specifically 2) and to a lesser extent SC2's matchmaking system is that you have a clear goal. Halo's system was simpler in setting a goal (its a lot easier to try to gain 5 levels than go up a league) but the ability to have that goal keeps you playing and aiming for it and if anythign is the reason there are so many leagues and I wouldnt be surprised if there were more in HotS.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
July 16 2012 15:13 GMT
#250
On July 16 2012 23:44 Daniel C wrote:
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On July 16 2012 23:41 Roxor9999 wrote:
On July 16 2012 23:38 Daniel C wrote:
On July 16 2012 23:35 Roxor9999 wrote:
On July 16 2012 23:28 docvoc wrote:
I personally think the main thing is that this hurts the new up and coming pros, we are now just creating systems to allow players like col.Sasquatch to come about, players that need a bit of development in a big clan type scenario that could potentialliy be great and equalize the two scenes, doing this prevents the GM recognition and prevents new blood in the scene, other than that, this isn't much of an issue imo because idiots do stupid things and thats their prerogative, since when have we cared a ton about the terms of service, we have tons of mods on this site that are immensely helpful, and also break the terms of service.

You can still be good even if this happens. That is kind of a stupid argument you gave.

It's not. "You can still be good even if this happens." does not counter his argument.

His argument ''this prevents up and coming players from being recognized'' . It's not like gm gives you any recognition winning tournaments does.

Alright, so it doesn't "prevent it", my bad. It doesn't lower your chances to be recognized though. Sure, winning tournaments gives more recognition. But still, I don't see how you can argue that it's beneficial to allow it to continue. The most you can say is that it doesn't matter. Not everyone agrees though.

I bet most people who got account leveled up to GM will only hold for 1,2 seasons at max. So if you "GM spot" "accidentally" got kicked out because of that dude, you will be able to get it back in 3 month season anyway. If a player forever can't reach that GM spot, then I don't think he's categorized as upcoming player....

200 spots in GM fluctuates too much every seasons, you see new names popped up every time. The only way you can be recognized in GM is to hold GM spot for a long period of time.
xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
July 16 2012 15:14 GMT
#251
There is nothing wrong with Professional players leveling for somebody else. In the end, if you pay somebody to level for you, but you are not at that skill level, you will drop back to your true ranking.

Also, the people that claim it prevents up and coming players from being noticed is hogwash. Pros already have multiple accounts in GM.

If anything, this provides a little extra cash for Pros. Professional SC2 players do not make much money. Let them make a little extra change because they are giving up their careers to be a pro gamer.
Leyra
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1222 Posts
July 16 2012 15:19 GMT
#252
I don't get why someone is dumb enough to pay for this, but even more I don't get why anyone else cares, lol.
Gtoad
Profile Joined October 2011
United States90 Posts
July 16 2012 15:20 GMT
#253
Where this would really be funny if they have one of those blizzard tournaments which pull invites from the gm pool on ladder....and then have some kid who got boosted get invited. haha
To succeed you must fail, many many times.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
July 16 2012 15:23 GMT
#254
On July 17 2012 00:19 Leyra wrote:
I don't get why someone is dumb enough to pay for this, but even more I don't get why anyone else cares, lol.


People will pay for a rank they didnt earn despite the fact that they know they wont keep it. The people who buy these are either convinced that they really are that good they just cant break thru the "lowbie wall" or they just want it so they can say they have it which is sort of a waste of money to me but who was I to judge.
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 15:24:55
July 16 2012 15:24 GMT
#255
On July 16 2012 23:54 Zanno wrote:
this shit took the halo matchmaking, which was already pure garbage, and made it completely and totally meaningless

not only does result in the individual getting a grossly inflated rank, it also artificially inflates the rank of anyone who plays a game against this person, due to them scoring huge points off their MMR

end result is that if this ever becomes a true epidemic, like it did in halo, master league will suddenly become meaningless

may a swift hammer crack the skulls of all professionals who do this shit


Existence of all-ins made masters fairly meaningless long before.
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
July 16 2012 15:25 GMT
#256
On July 17 2012 00:23 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 00:19 Leyra wrote:
I don't get why someone is dumb enough to pay for this, but even more I don't get why anyone else cares, lol.


People will pay for a rank they didnt earn despite the fact that they know they wont keep it. The people who buy these are either convinced that they really are that good they just cant break thru the "lowbie wall" or they just want it so they can say they have it which is sort of a waste of money to me but who was I to judge.


"lowbie wall"? i would understand that if this was League of Legends or any other 5v5 game where you get matched with randoms and cant do much alone, but in sc2? LMAO do people like that realy exist
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
July 16 2012 15:26 GMT
#257
You have no proof at all. This thread is just stupid. Even if it was Naama playing, you have no idea if he claims money for it or not.
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Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
July 16 2012 15:27 GMT
#258
On July 16 2012 23:38 alderamin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 23:20 GreEny K wrote:
On July 16 2012 16:36 alderamin wrote:
It is ladder abuse and thus cheating. In the past the community has tried to ban people who ladder abuse and cheat from all tournaments for a period of time..
And Kespa even banned people for life. Of course Blizzard will ban those accounts too.


Who has KeSPA banned for this? Nobody comes to mind, and I've been watching SC for a while.



Calling deliberate misreading on this.

KeSPA banned people for life for cheating. TL and foreigner community banned people for cheating through ladder abuse. Just abusing 1 game = 1 year ban.

TL ladder abuse bans were for a tournament qualifier ladder.

That said, anyone trying to use a rank they didn't earn as a credential deserves to get called out.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 16 2012 15:29 GMT
#259
On July 17 2012 00:26 nkr wrote:
You have no proof at all. This thread is just stupid. Even if it was Naama playing, you have no idea if he claims money for it or not.


Well I'd say Rainbow's stream comment is a pretty solid proof. Though I don't think it's that bad. Probably against rule but not hurting anyone really.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
July 16 2012 15:30 GMT
#260
On July 17 2012 00:29 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 00:26 nkr wrote:
You have no proof at all. This thread is just stupid. Even if it was Naama playing, you have no idea if he claims money for it or not.


Well I'd say Rainbow's stream comment is a pretty solid proof. Though I don't think it's that bad. Probably against rule but not hurting anyone really.


I am more refering to that he is calling out Naama in the first half of his thread, without any solid proof.
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