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Pimpmuckl
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany528 Posts
July 16 2012 14:05 GMT
#221
I don't have a really big problem with it. Especially since there is a way bigger problem which needs to be fixed first (and as said i don't think it really is a problem), the cheaters.
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SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 16 2012 14:06 GMT
#222
On July 16 2012 22:46 GinDo wrote:
Not a big deal. GM doesn't really bring recognition, tournament results do.


Of course highmaster/gm brings recognition you get to play all the good players up in the ladder. Which streams occasionally which also makes people see ur name all the time. And by getting up there improves ur skill quite a lot and of course it helps quite a lot getting into GM. There are so many in the high masters ladder that struggles to get into GM.
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Skillver
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria1309 Posts
July 16 2012 14:06 GMT
#223
What's the problem with it? It's done in nearly every game. People love their e-penis. But I really don't see the problem with it.
Prox
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands174 Posts
July 16 2012 14:13 GMT
#224
Pointless witch hunt. It's barely hurting anyone, next season theyll be out of GM if that is what you are worried about. All your arguments are poor, the accusation based on nothing is pathetic and besides, many people share accounts especially cross continent..

Take this thread down please
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Nerski
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1095 Posts
July 16 2012 14:13 GMT
#225
I don't buy pros need money as an excuse to do this for starters. That'd be like saying a guy who shoots someone needed the money so it's ok.

Past that however, it's not like we as a community can police this sort of thing. So blizzard either bans the power leveled accounts or doesn't and that's end of story. On the bright side it's not easy to get into GM so it's not like any pro could do it with 5+ accounts per season easily.
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Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
July 16 2012 14:14 GMT
#226
Who would want to pay for something like that in THIS game though? There really isn't anywhere to show off, and if you play above your level you'll get stomped. Maybe they want to post on SC2 forums without fear of getting called bronze noob?
spbelky
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States623 Posts
July 16 2012 14:20 GMT
#227
How much money can you possibly make off this? I can't imagine the market of demand for this is very large... and I have a hard time believing people would pay enough money to make this worth the time it takes. I could be wrong I guess. Although I am very curious how much money this generally costs. Wouldn't be a bad gig for those with the skill to do it.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 16 2012 14:20 GMT
#228
On July 16 2012 16:36 alderamin wrote:
It is ladder abuse and thus cheating. In the past the community has tried to ban people who ladder abuse and cheat from all tournaments for a period of time..
And Kespa even banned people for life. Of course Blizzard will ban those accounts too.


Who has KeSPA banned for this? Nobody comes to mind, and I've been watching SC for a while.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 14:24:37
July 16 2012 14:22 GMT
#229
On July 16 2012 22:55 Equity213 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 16:47 DYEAlabaster wrote:
Idiots supplementing pro gamer's meagre income? Sounds like a good thing to me...

Sidenote- why could players lose their jobs? Someone mentioned forGG streamed it... while he was teamless?


1 - Its against EULA
2 - Progamers knew what kind of money they would be making when they got into it. Dont like being poor? Go get a real job or play poker. Theres no sympathy from me.


someones upset for being a low ranking player ^^


On July 16 2012 23:20 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 16:36 alderamin wrote:
It is ladder abuse and thus cheating. In the past the community has tried to ban people who ladder abuse and cheat from all tournaments for a period of time..
And Kespa even banned people for life. Of course Blizzard will ban those accounts too.


Who has KeSPA banned for this? Nobody comes to mind, and I've been watching SC for a while.


They haven't banned anyone for leveling ever... Kespa atleast,
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kenkou
Profile Joined September 2010
United States235 Posts
July 16 2012 14:23 GMT
#230
I blame the GM system for allowing these players to stay in GM. If they made GM current top 200 MMR players, then we wouldn't see these people stay up there for long at all. With the current system, the guy could literally be bronze league, and as long as he loses enough he'll start playing people that is his skill level to use up his bonus pool, staying in GM for one whole season.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8624 Posts
July 16 2012 14:24 GMT
#231
If there are people who pay for this kind of "service"... let them throw their money away for fake ladder kudos.

This should be the least of our concerns as long as there are hackers around - that REALLY hurts esports and the competitive spirit surrounding it.
in the age of "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV" leadership.
DougJDempsey
Profile Joined April 2010
747 Posts
July 16 2012 14:24 GMT
#232
On July 16 2012 22:55 Equity213 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 16:47 DYEAlabaster wrote:
Idiots supplementing pro gamer's meagre income? Sounds like a good thing to me...

Sidenote- why could players lose their jobs? Someone mentioned forGG streamed it... while he was teamless?


1 - Its against EULA
2 - Progamers knew what kind of money they would be making when they got into it. Dont like being poor? Go get a real job or play poker. Theres no sympathy from me.


get off your high horse what gives you the right to tell them what to do/decide the rules for them? i hope they continue just because of people like you.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
July 16 2012 14:28 GMT
#233
I personally think the main thing is that this hurts the new up and coming pros, we are now just creating systems to allow players like col.Sasquatch to come about, players that need a bit of development in a big clan type scenario that could potentialliy be great and equalize the two scenes, doing this prevents the GM recognition and prevents new blood in the scene, other than that, this isn't much of an issue imo because idiots do stupid things and thats their prerogative, since when have we cared a ton about the terms of service, we have tons of mods on this site that are immensely helpful, and also break the terms of service.
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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
July 16 2012 14:34 GMT
#234
I didn't know we really cared that much about GM anyways. Ever since the fiasco where multiple progamers didn't get into GM, GM sort of stopped mattering, at least in my eyes.
As for the topic of the thread, I don't really care about account leveling provided the progamer doing it really needs the money, which is probably not a rare thing. Supporting the hacking scene isn't really an issue, because it should already be able to support itself based on the consumer base for its hacks. In addition, hacks are so easy to get that the entire consumer base should be able to get their hands on a hack, so additional funds probably shouldn't matter in that area, either.
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Roxor9999
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands771 Posts
July 16 2012 14:35 GMT
#235
On July 16 2012 23:28 docvoc wrote:
I personally think the main thing is that this hurts the new up and coming pros, we are now just creating systems to allow players like col.Sasquatch to come about, players that need a bit of development in a big clan type scenario that could potentialliy be great and equalize the two scenes, doing this prevents the GM recognition and prevents new blood in the scene, other than that, this isn't much of an issue imo because idiots do stupid things and thats their prerogative, since when have we cared a ton about the terms of service, we have tons of mods on this site that are immensely helpful, and also break the terms of service.

You can still be good even if this happens. That is kind of a stupid argument you gave.
mrhobbers
Profile Joined August 2010
109 Posts
July 16 2012 14:38 GMT
#236
How can anyone care about this?
alderamin
Profile Joined June 2012
80 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 14:39:14
July 16 2012 14:38 GMT
#237
On July 16 2012 23:20 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 16:36 alderamin wrote:
It is ladder abuse and thus cheating. In the past the community has tried to ban people who ladder abuse and cheat from all tournaments for a period of time..
And Kespa even banned people for life. Of course Blizzard will ban those accounts too.


Who has KeSPA banned for this? Nobody comes to mind, and I've been watching SC for a while.



Calling deliberate misreading on this.

KeSPA banned people for life for cheating. TL and foreigner community banned people for cheating through ladder abuse. Just abusing 1 game = 1 year ban.
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
July 16 2012 14:38 GMT
#238
On July 16 2012 23:35 Roxor9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 23:28 docvoc wrote:
I personally think the main thing is that this hurts the new up and coming pros, we are now just creating systems to allow players like col.Sasquatch to come about, players that need a bit of development in a big clan type scenario that could potentialliy be great and equalize the two scenes, doing this prevents the GM recognition and prevents new blood in the scene, other than that, this isn't much of an issue imo because idiots do stupid things and thats their prerogative, since when have we cared a ton about the terms of service, we have tons of mods on this site that are immensely helpful, and also break the terms of service.

You can still be good even if this happens. That is kind of a stupid argument you gave.

It's not. "You can still be good even if this happens." does not counter his argument.
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
Roxor9999
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands771 Posts
July 16 2012 14:41 GMT
#239
On July 16 2012 23:38 Daniel C wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 23:35 Roxor9999 wrote:
On July 16 2012 23:28 docvoc wrote:
I personally think the main thing is that this hurts the new up and coming pros, we are now just creating systems to allow players like col.Sasquatch to come about, players that need a bit of development in a big clan type scenario that could potentialliy be great and equalize the two scenes, doing this prevents the GM recognition and prevents new blood in the scene, other than that, this isn't much of an issue imo because idiots do stupid things and thats their prerogative, since when have we cared a ton about the terms of service, we have tons of mods on this site that are immensely helpful, and also break the terms of service.

You can still be good even if this happens. That is kind of a stupid argument you gave.

It's not. "You can still be good even if this happens." does not counter his argument.

His argument ''this prevents up and coming players from being recognized'' . It's not like gm gives you any recognition winning tournaments does.
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
July 16 2012 14:44 GMT
#240
On July 16 2012 23:41 Roxor9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 23:38 Daniel C wrote:
On July 16 2012 23:35 Roxor9999 wrote:
On July 16 2012 23:28 docvoc wrote:
I personally think the main thing is that this hurts the new up and coming pros, we are now just creating systems to allow players like col.Sasquatch to come about, players that need a bit of development in a big clan type scenario that could potentialliy be great and equalize the two scenes, doing this prevents the GM recognition and prevents new blood in the scene, other than that, this isn't much of an issue imo because idiots do stupid things and thats their prerogative, since when have we cared a ton about the terms of service, we have tons of mods on this site that are immensely helpful, and also break the terms of service.

You can still be good even if this happens. That is kind of a stupid argument you gave.

It's not. "You can still be good even if this happens." does not counter his argument.

His argument ''this prevents up and coming players from being recognized'' . It's not like gm gives you any recognition winning tournaments does.

Alright, so it doesn't "prevent it", my bad. It doesn't lower your chances to be recognized though. Sure, winning tournaments gives more recognition. But still, I don't see how you can argue that it's beneficial to allow it to continue. The most you can say is that it doesn't matter. Not everyone agrees though.
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
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