Progamers selling account leveling services - Page 12
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							Pimpmuckl
							
							
						 
						Germany528 Posts
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							SilSol
							
							
						 
						Sweden2744 Posts
						 On July 16 2012 22:46 GinDo wrote: Not a big deal. GM doesn't really bring recognition, tournament results do. Of course highmaster/gm brings recognition you get to play all the good players up in the ladder. Which streams occasionally which also makes people see ur name all the time. And by getting up there improves ur skill quite a lot and of course it helps quite a lot getting into GM. There are so many in the high masters ladder that struggles to get into GM. | ||
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							Skillver
							
							
						 
						Austria1309 Posts
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							Prox
							
							
						 
						Netherlands174 Posts
						 Take this thread down please | ||
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							Nerski
							
							
						 
						United States1095 Posts
						 Past that however, it's not like we as a community can police this sort of thing. So blizzard either bans the power leveled accounts or doesn't and that's end of story. On the bright side it's not easy to get into GM so it's not like any pro could do it with 5+ accounts per season easily. | ||
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							Gentso
							
							
						 
						United States2218 Posts
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						United States623 Posts
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							GreEny K
							
							
						 
						Germany7312 Posts
						 On July 16 2012 16:36 alderamin wrote: It is ladder abuse and thus cheating. In the past the community has tried to ban people who ladder abuse and cheat from all tournaments for a period of time.. And Kespa even banned people for life. Of course Blizzard will ban those accounts too. Who has KeSPA banned for this? Nobody comes to mind, and I've been watching SC for a while. | ||
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							NeMeSiS3
							
							
						 
						Canada2972 Posts
						 On July 16 2012 22:55 Equity213 wrote: 1 - Its against EULA 2 - Progamers knew what kind of money they would be making when they got into it. Dont like being poor? Go get a real job or play poker. Theres no sympathy from me. someones upset for being a low ranking player ^^ On July 16 2012 23:20 GreEny K wrote: Who has KeSPA banned for this? Nobody comes to mind, and I've been watching SC for a while. They haven't banned anyone for leveling ever... Kespa atleast, | ||
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							kenkou
							
							
						 
						United States235 Posts
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							Doublemint
							
							
						 
						Austria8624 Posts
						 This should be the least of our concerns as long as there are hackers around - that REALLY hurts esports and the competitive spirit surrounding it. | ||
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							DougJDempsey
							
							
						 
						747 Posts
						 On July 16 2012 22:55 Equity213 wrote: 1 - Its against EULA 2 - Progamers knew what kind of money they would be making when they got into it. Dont like being poor? Go get a real job or play poker. Theres no sympathy from me. get off your high horse what gives you the right to tell them what to do/decide the rules for them? i hope they continue just because of people like you. | ||
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							docvoc
							
							
						 
						United States5491 Posts
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							AnachronisticAnarchy
							
							
						 
						United States2957 Posts
						 As for the topic of the thread, I don't really care about account leveling provided the progamer doing it really needs the money, which is probably not a rare thing. Supporting the hacking scene isn't really an issue, because it should already be able to support itself based on the consumer base for its hacks. In addition, hacks are so easy to get that the entire consumer base should be able to get their hands on a hack, so additional funds probably shouldn't matter in that area, either. | ||
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							Roxor9999
							
							
						 
						Netherlands771 Posts
						 On July 16 2012 23:28 docvoc wrote: I personally think the main thing is that this hurts the new up and coming pros, we are now just creating systems to allow players like col.Sasquatch to come about, players that need a bit of development in a big clan type scenario that could potentialliy be great and equalize the two scenes, doing this prevents the GM recognition and prevents new blood in the scene, other than that, this isn't much of an issue imo because idiots do stupid things and thats their prerogative, since when have we cared a ton about the terms of service, we have tons of mods on this site that are immensely helpful, and also break the terms of service. You can still be good even if this happens. That is kind of a stupid argument you gave. | ||
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							mrhobbers
							
							
						 
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							alderamin
							
							
						 
						80 Posts
						 On July 16 2012 23:20 GreEny K wrote: Who has KeSPA banned for this? Nobody comes to mind, and I've been watching SC for a while. Calling deliberate misreading on this. KeSPA banned people for life for cheating. TL and foreigner community banned people for cheating through ladder abuse. Just abusing 1 game = 1 year ban. | ||
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							Daniel C
							
							
						 
						Hong Kong1606 Posts
						 On July 16 2012 23:35 Roxor9999 wrote: You can still be good even if this happens. That is kind of a stupid argument you gave. It's not. "You can still be good even if this happens." does not counter his argument. | ||
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							Roxor9999
							
							
						 
						Netherlands771 Posts
						 On July 16 2012 23:38 Daniel C wrote: It's not. "You can still be good even if this happens." does not counter his argument. His argument ''this prevents up and coming players from being recognized'' . It's not like gm gives you any recognition winning tournaments does. | ||
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							Daniel C
							
							
						 
						Hong Kong1606 Posts
						 On July 16 2012 23:41 Roxor9999 wrote: His argument ''this prevents up and coming players from being recognized'' . It's not like gm gives you any recognition winning tournaments does. Alright, so it doesn't "prevent it", my bad. It doesn't lower your chances to be recognized though. Sure, winning tournaments gives more recognition. But still, I don't see how you can argue that it's beneficial to allow it to continue. The most you can say is that it doesn't matter. Not everyone agrees though. | ||
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