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Pjorren
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden777 Posts
June 15 2012 21:26 GMT
#201
I found a nice schedule if anyone are interested.

http://open.dreamhack.se/dreamhack-tv/
Araneae
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway100 Posts
June 15 2012 21:57 GMT
#202
hope lizalfo beats naniwa :D
Sporadic44
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States533 Posts
June 15 2012 22:05 GMT
#203
will be a sick tournament as always. <3 dreamhack
"Opportunities multiply as they are seized."
Mikku
Profile Joined June 2012
Czech Republic58 Posts
June 15 2012 22:14 GMT
#204
MVPKeeN will shine this time.
Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
June 15 2012 22:17 GMT
#205
Watch out for Zanubis guys. I predict an upset
Liquipedia
Kbafewx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States16 Posts
June 15 2012 22:48 GMT
#206
lets go dreamhack!
ZERG.
Motoorhead
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland67 Posts
June 15 2012 22:59 GMT
#207
On June 16 2012 04:17 MonkSEA wrote:

So what you're trying to say is that you like Dreamhack being a "pro foreign" tournament where there is really only a handful of "pro" players even attending? Dreamhack to me is just a proving ground for amateurs. I really don't want diamond/master level players duking it out with players that are incredibly better then they are.

Enjoy your amateurs getting destroyed in group stages. I'd rather just watch the couple top level players that are going to make the semi finals. I find no entertainment in bad play.


There is like 40 "pro players" going to play in DH. I wouldnt call it handful.

You discredit a tournament because there is some unknown players attending?
I can say exaclty the same about open bracket in MLG.
Its funny u say about skill gap when in MLG its even worse.

And its also funny most of the people complaining is either American or Australian,
I understand you have no one decent to cheer for from your country, so you want koreans to play - watch MLG instead.
If you never stop - failure is not an option.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
June 15 2012 23:00 GMT
#208
On June 16 2012 07:59 Motoorhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 04:17 MonkSEA wrote:

So what you're trying to say is that you like Dreamhack being a "pro foreign" tournament where there is really only a handful of "pro" players even attending? Dreamhack to me is just a proving ground for amateurs. I really don't want diamond/master level players duking it out with players that are incredibly better then they are.

Enjoy your amateurs getting destroyed in group stages. I'd rather just watch the couple top level players that are going to make the semi finals. I find no entertainment in bad play.


There is like 40 "pro players" going to play in DH. I wouldnt call it handful.

You discredit a tournament because there is some unknown players attending?
I can say exaclty the same about open bracket in MLG.
Its funny u say about skill gap when in MLG its even worse.

And its also funny most of the people complaining is either American or Australian,
I understand you have no one decent to cheer for from your country, so you want koreans to play - watch MLG instead.


America is far more successful at this game than Poland.
Amlitzer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States471 Posts
June 15 2012 23:01 GMT
#209
Thirty-two groups? Hot damn that is a lot. I didn't even bother to watch the last dreamhack due to the lackluster roster, but this looks like an improvement.
"Not even justice, I want to get truth!"
elsezilla
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands30 Posts
June 15 2012 23:14 GMT
#210
On June 16 2012 08:00 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 07:59 Motoorhead wrote:
On June 16 2012 04:17 MonkSEA wrote:

So what you're trying to say is that you like Dreamhack being a "pro foreign" tournament where there is really only a handful of "pro" players even attending? Dreamhack to me is just a proving ground for amateurs. I really don't want diamond/master level players duking it out with players that are incredibly better then they are.

Enjoy your amateurs getting destroyed in group stages. I'd rather just watch the couple top level players that are going to make the semi finals. I find no entertainment in bad play.


There is like 40 "pro players" going to play in DH. I wouldnt call it handful.

You discredit a tournament because there is some unknown players attending?
I can say exaclty the same about open bracket in MLG.
Its funny u say about skill gap when in MLG its even worse.

And its also funny most of the people complaining is either American or Australian,
I understand you have no one decent to cheer for from your country, so you want koreans to play - watch MLG instead.


America is far more successful at this game than Poland.

What does the success-level in sc2 compared between Poland and "America" have to do with anything? Did you not read his comment?
Ik ben de speelgoed
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
June 15 2012 23:17 GMT
#211
On June 16 2012 08:00 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 07:59 Motoorhead wrote:
On June 16 2012 04:17 MonkSEA wrote:

So what you're trying to say is that you like Dreamhack being a "pro foreign" tournament where there is really only a handful of "pro" players even attending? Dreamhack to me is just a proving ground for amateurs. I really don't want diamond/master level players duking it out with players that are incredibly better then they are.

Enjoy your amateurs getting destroyed in group stages. I'd rather just watch the couple top level players that are going to make the semi finals. I find no entertainment in bad play.


There is like 40 "pro players" going to play in DH. I wouldnt call it handful.

You discredit a tournament because there is some unknown players attending?
I can say exaclty the same about open bracket in MLG.
Its funny u say about skill gap when in MLG its even worse.

And its also funny most of the people complaining is either American or Australian,
I understand you have no one decent to cheer for from your country, so you want koreans to play - watch MLG instead.


America is far more successful at this game than Poland.


Successful? Maybe, depends how you look at it but Mana, Nerchio, Diestar, Tefel vs Idra, Sheth, Illusion, Vibe or?.... i would put my money on Poland there atm. Not that it matters, he doesn't claim Poland is better or what ever so i dont really get your point.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 23:21:14
June 15 2012 23:19 GMT
#212
On June 16 2012 04:17 MonkSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 21:21 Motoorhead wrote:
On June 15 2012 10:57 Canucklehead wrote:
On June 15 2012 10:50 Duravi wrote:
This line up is laughable compared to MLG. I understand Dreamhack wants to be "fair" to everyone and not pay for some people to come and not for others, but it is a very stupid philosophy from an entertainment perspective.


I agree. I don't get excited for dreamhacks due to the lack of top koreans. The last dreamhack had one of the worst lineup I've seen in a long time, not only due to lack of koreans, but barely any top foreign pros attended too. I read socke doesn't attend cause only top 4 get money, so he doesn't feel it's worth it.

I remember watching some dreamhacks last year as those seemed to get some good koreans, I think. However, the player quality has dropped a lot this year. I may watch the finals depending on who is in it, but as a tournament, dreamhack isn't very interesting to me.



I disagree with you.

I actually like that Dreamhack doesnt pretend to be another MLG with all the korean superstars. If i want to see the very best koreans i would rather watch GSL.



So what you're trying to say is that you like Dreamhack being a "pro foreign" tournament where there is really only a handful of "pro" players even attending? Dreamhack to me is just a proving ground for amateurs. I really don't want diamond/master level players duking it out with players that are incredibly better then they are.

Enjoy your amateurs getting destroyed in group stages. I'd rather just watch the couple top level players that are going to make the semi finals. I find no entertainment in bad play.

No one is forcing you to watch this Again some people doesn't seem to understand how Dreamhack is operating.

Dreamhack is a computer/digital festival, Its purpose is to provide entertainment in which the public is encouraged to take a part of the events which includes the various competitions. The participation from the visitors at the festival is a core element of Dreamhack. This is what the sponsors expects and the reason why Dreamhack exists. The upcomers/locals/ semi pro/ novelties are just just as important as the "superstars". And again, if you don't like it then simply don't watch it.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
mec
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden192 Posts
June 15 2012 23:19 GMT
#213
On June 16 2012 08:00 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 07:59 Motoorhead wrote:
On June 16 2012 04:17 MonkSEA wrote:

So what you're trying to say is that you like Dreamhack being a "pro foreign" tournament where there is really only a handful of "pro" players even attending? Dreamhack to me is just a proving ground for amateurs. I really don't want diamond/master level players duking it out with players that are incredibly better then they are.

Enjoy your amateurs getting destroyed in group stages. I'd rather just watch the couple top level players that are going to make the semi finals. I find no entertainment in bad play.


There is like 40 "pro players" going to play in DH. I wouldnt call it handful.

You discredit a tournament because there is some unknown players attending?
I can say exaclty the same about open bracket in MLG.
Its funny u say about skill gap when in MLG its even worse.

And its also funny most of the people complaining is either American or Australian,
I understand you have no one decent to cheer for from your country, so you want koreans to play - watch MLG instead.


America is far more successful at this game than Poland.


And still the top 3 from Poland (Nerchio, MaNa and DieStar) would beat the top 3 from US of A.
GoonFFS
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark323 Posts
June 15 2012 23:51 GMT
#214
lokacitron from TeamYAO has this tourney imo
http://konvictgaming.com/ -> @KrugerFFS
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 00:48:13
June 16 2012 00:46 GMT
#215
is mini the BW player or is that a TLPD fail ?

EDIT : Yeah it's not mini
MigzR
Profile Joined October 2011
Portugal89 Posts
June 16 2012 00:48 GMT
#216
Dragon fighting!
Jaegeru
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom676 Posts
June 16 2012 01:39 GMT
#217
Groups should be pretty straight forwards for all of the pro players, there is a clear favourite in each group to make it through.
MVP on winning his Fourth GSL - "Yeah I know the routine, take the flowers and cheque, I will kiss the trophy for the photo"
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
June 16 2012 02:14 GMT
#218
On June 16 2012 09:48 MigzR wrote:
Dragon fighting!


Yeps:D Defiantly a player ill watch closely I think he have improved alot recently and hopefully he can do a good showing. Dont expect him to win or go top 16 or anything but hopefully he can pass the first group!
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Weson
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Iceland1032 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 06:41:34
June 16 2012 06:33 GMT
#219
On June 16 2012 08:19 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 04:17 MonkSEA wrote:
On June 15 2012 21:21 Motoorhead wrote:
On June 15 2012 10:57 Canucklehead wrote:
On June 15 2012 10:50 Duravi wrote:
This line up is laughable compared to MLG. I understand Dreamhack wants to be "fair" to everyone and not pay for some people to come and not for others, but it is a very stupid philosophy from an entertainment perspective.


I agree. I don't get excited for dreamhacks due to the lack of top koreans. The last dreamhack had one of the worst lineup I've seen in a long time, not only due to lack of koreans, but barely any top foreign pros attended too. I read socke doesn't attend cause only top 4 get money, so he doesn't feel it's worth it.

I remember watching some dreamhacks last year as those seemed to get some good koreans, I think. However, the player quality has dropped a lot this year. I may watch the finals depending on who is in it, but as a tournament, dreamhack isn't very interesting to me.



I disagree with you.

I actually like that Dreamhack doesnt pretend to be another MLG with all the korean superstars. If i want to see the very best koreans i would rather watch GSL.



So what you're trying to say is that you like Dreamhack being a "pro foreign" tournament where there is really only a handful of "pro" players even attending? Dreamhack to me is just a proving ground for amateurs. I really don't want diamond/master level players duking it out with players that are incredibly better then they are.

Enjoy your amateurs getting destroyed in group stages. I'd rather just watch the couple top level players that are going to make the semi finals. I find no entertainment in bad play.

No one is forcing you to watch this Again some people doesn't seem to understand how Dreamhack is operating.

Dreamhack is a computer/digital festival, Its purpose is to provide entertainment in which the public is encouraged to take a part of the events which includes the various competitions. The participation from the visitors at the festival is a core element of Dreamhack. This is what the sponsors expects and the reason why Dreamhack exists. The upcomers/locals/ semi pro/ novelties are just just as important as the "superstars". And again, if you don't like it then simply don't watch it.

Or... You can choose only to watch the final day when all the amateurs have been eliminated (hopefully not). Again none is forcing you to watch.

OMAGAD, these amateurs are in this tournament and i have to watch them? Why? Why do they have to have a tournament to go to and be e-famous for a second? Why? Why dont they just do like MLG and... pretty much every fucking tournament out there, providing the same players. Resuting in the same finals and giving money to the same people. Why dont they do that? Why do Dreamhack have to have a open tournament? Whats that BTW? NVM it sucks!! ... STFU
"!@€#" - as some guy said
AKomrade
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States582 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 06:46:28
June 16 2012 06:46 GMT
#220
Can't wait. Stockholm was fantastic.

Isn't QXC the only MURICAN player? Or are we able to count Thorzain yet?
ALL HAIL THE KING IN THE NORTH! HAIL! HAIL!
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