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iAmiAnC
United Kingdom317 Posts
 Hopefully in the expansion TvZ and TvP will stop being a race against time to win the game quickly before it becomes unmanagable. Even if they balance it 50/50 in WoL (Terran early game success vs Zerg/Protoss ability to survive and win the game) it still isn't particularly fun or interesting having phases in the game where one race is so much stronger than the other. | ||
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
On June 19 2012 00:02 iAmiAnC wrote: Perhaps its time for the sad Marine or Marauder fan club? not according to code s  | ||
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iAmiAnC
United Kingdom317 Posts
Well I'm looking forward to seeing how MKP and Maru do in their groups, that will be a big indication for me at least. Considering the sad zealot fanclub was full of people bemoaning earth shattering results like Tester falling out of code A (oh wait he wasn't practising), it isn't much of a stretch really... From my brief look through this months TLPD we're also heading towards Terran overall winrates on par, or worse than the Protoss results at the time of that thread too... | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4532 Posts
On June 18 2012 23:46 TeeTS wrote: So I expect you are a pro, so you can evaluate the movements of hero. It's wrong to say Hero's play was simple. But it's also wrong to overestimate every little move a (pro) player makes during a game. This insane glorification of banal moves really pisses me off. As if a nexus cancel is somewhat new or insanely creative these days. This stuff has been around forever. yeah it was a well executed 2base timing attack. But that's what you should expect at the very least from a (code s) pro player. This is nothing you should go crazy about.... -_- haha, i guess mypost came across a little condescending but i don't like whiners. especially when they take things for gratned | ||
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Tsuki.eu
Portugal1049 Posts
On June 08 2012 03:04 imperator-xy wrote: terran has been overpowered for nearly 2 years now, so bad terrans are extremely overestimated nowadays the process we see now is just putting everyone to the place he should have been in during the last months not worth it. (edit) | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On June 19 2012 00:13 iAmiAnC wrote: Well I'm looking forward to seeing how MKP and Maru do in their groups, that will be a big indication for me at least. Considering the sad zealot fanclub was full of people bemoaning earth shattering results like Tester falling out of code A (oh wait he wasn't practising), it isn't much of a stretch really... From my brief look through this months TLPD we're also heading towards Terran overall winrates on par, or worse than the Protoss results at the time of that thread too... I think that while there might have been a couple of morons doing that, the sad zealot fanclub was based on the continual domination against Protoss in tournaments around the world, and particularly in the GSL at the highest level of play, for a substantial period of time. | ||
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SoniC_eu
Denmark1008 Posts
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Sroobz
United States1377 Posts
On June 19 2012 00:29 SoniC_eu wrote: As a Terran in EU I have given up on ladder in season 8. I don't mind the former patches TBH, and could see the point. But the recent ghost nerf and queen buff don't make much sense when you look at them tgthr. If you nerf early and mid game terran (reactor helions opening not as viable) and then nerf late game terran (with ghost nerf) then when exactly is terran supposed to shine, except with ultra cheeses in very early game? Mind you creep spread is insane currently with the current buff to queens. Terrans need to adapt somehow, but I don't know exactly how? Anyone have an answer? I am currently in diamond MMR... I just don't get it dude...sc2 is ruined for me too | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On June 18 2012 22:50 scypio wrote: Hero just rolfstomped Taeja 2:0 with a simple 2-base colo on that "asymmetrically imbalanced map" Cloud Kingdom. So there will be exactly 0 terrans in DHS ro8. Well, I guess I'll watch GSL code S this evening... feels like the last stand. There were no zergs in round 8 of GSL code S previous GSL. | ||
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TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
On June 19 2012 00:32 Assirra wrote: There were no zergs in round 8 of GSL code S previous GSL. And the reason for that were Zerg going 1-7 against protoss in that particular season, while being at 50% against Terran. So you'd say that a zerg buff that aims at ZvT was the right solution for that problem? | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On June 19 2012 00:38 TeeTS wrote: And the reason for that were Zerg going 1-7 against protoss in that particular season, while being at 50% against Terran. So you'd say that a zerg buff that aims at ZvT was the right solution for that problem? Sigh, i am not saying that. Also, since when the zerg buffs have something to do with a protoss beating a terran? The post i quoted had NOTHING to do with the current buff. | ||
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Huragius
Lithuania1506 Posts
On June 19 2012 00:29 SoniC_eu wrote: As a Terran in EU I have given up on ladder in season 8. I don't mind the former patches TBH, and could see the point. But the recent ghost nerf and queen buff don't make much sense when you look at them tgthr. If you nerf early and mid game terran (reactor helions opening not as viable) and then nerf late game terran (with ghost nerf) then when exactly is terran supposed to shine, except with ultra cheeses in very early game? Mind you creep spread is insane currently with the current buff to queens. Terrans need to adapt somehow, but I don't know exactly how? Anyone have an answer? I am currently in diamond MMR... I stopped laddering after queen buff as well. Playing terran was just not fun. Didn't understand the idea of all those nerfs/buffs... MMR was something like high masters at that point. | ||
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3454 Posts
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CaptainCrush
United States785 Posts
On June 19 2012 01:01 monkybone wrote: Yeah, the patch was severe. But stop playing? Are you crazy? I stopped playing too, terran is really just not a fun race anymore... Their idea of balance is getting a little absurd. | ||
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Stress
United States980 Posts
On June 19 2012 01:01 monkybone wrote: Yeah, the patch was severe. But stop playing? Are you crazy? If you play Terran on NA/EU it is completely awful. I get TvZ as probably damn near 50% of my matches and it is full of roach/ling/bling all-ins(that can be somewhat macro'd out of) or insane creep spread into late game TvZ which is extremely rough for the Terran unless you have MMA type multitasking. It isn't fun feeling hopeless in about 50% of the games you play. Now if you have a KR account, like I do, there isn't near as many Zergs and ladder is more enjoyable(although there has been a recently influx of Zerg on that server, imo). I can understand why a lot of Terrans don't want to play anymore, especially if you happened to be a mid-high masters player before the patch. | ||
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Deleted User 137586
7859 Posts
On June 19 2012 00:29 SeaSwift wrote: I think that while there might have been a couple of morons doing that, the sad zealot fanclub was based on the continual domination against Protoss in tournaments around the world, and particularly in the GSL at the highest level of play, for a substantial period of time. Actually the original article (here) mostly bases its argumentation around MC's slump (that in terms of his results, has continued to this day). | ||
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][Primarch][
Sweden302 Posts
On June 19 2012 01:09 CaptainCrush wrote: I stopped playing too, terran is really just not a fun race anymore... Their idea of balance is getting a little absurd. Yeah I feel you guys, it's getting really sad. Well at least the Z and P dudes are having fun laughing their asses of at us. | ||
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Sroobz
United States1377 Posts
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Account252508
3454 Posts
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Vash_SC2
United States122 Posts
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