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RIP BW =( no bickering please!
Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
June 06 2012 14:19 GMT
#541
On June 06 2012 09:24 Holgerius wrote:
Such depressing news. I mean, it's great for the Sc2 community, but it officially marks the death of pro BW.


Well, the funny thing is that this wasn't something the SC2 community (myself included) was waiting or looking forward to. My reaction is very much mild confusion. Well, it might be cool, on the other hand we have so many goddam tournaments and leagues around already.

I am actually astonished that "the" BW is actually coming to an end. I never knew much about it, other than that it was really big. I guess they just weren't taking in so much revenue after all.

The SC2 tournament field is going to be a very tough field to compete in, and it'll only get tougher. I am actually looking forward to what the rest of 2012 brings with quite some interest.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
June 06 2012 14:19 GMT
#542
well..

shit..

The king's dead. Long live the king (???)
T H C makes ppl happy
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 14:23:58
June 06 2012 14:20 GMT
#543
Oh well, guess i'll post only in the LoL section rather than watch the OSL evolve into this garbage.
Hopefully we can keep our BW team signatures though -_-.

RIP BW.

On June 06 2012 19:32 Fleuria wrote:
a sc2 player finally maybe winning a starleague?!?!


I doubt anyone is going to acknowledge them winning the OSL. Since it's not BW and they already have the GSL.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
June 06 2012 14:22 GMT
#544
We have to move on! tho its very sad T.T
AKMU / IU
Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
June 06 2012 14:24 GMT
#545
Finally a chance for BW gamers to prove themselves in SC2 against current pros.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 14:27:19
June 06 2012 14:24 GMT
#546
On June 06 2012 22:43 jpak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 22:37 supernovamaniac wrote:
On June 06 2012 22:28 Vul wrote:
On June 06 2012 21:51 jpak wrote:
On June 06 2012 21:44 blubbdavid wrote:
That picture is the future of LoL


[image loading]

It's already happening! And that's the first major LoL tournament in Korea.


Those chairs look pretty empty to me, they're full near the front, but once you get to the middle and back it's like one person for every two or three chairs.

Still larger than SC2 in Korea.


Guess what? GSL Code S finals were going on at the same time.

Guess which one got more attention.

Edit: Let me give you some statistics about that finals.

Source: DES

1. It got up 2.219% of males aged 19-24.
2. During the final, for almost an hour, it got an average of 1.861% of viewers and was the 2nd most watched program during that time.
3. People started lining up from 7 o'clock in the morning, and almost 8000 people maxed out the stadium.
4. During the finals, ongamenet became one of the most searched words on various Korean portal sites.


I don't think anyone will argue LoL is bigger than SC2 in Korea at the moment, but the Code S finals did have 2,000 people in the arena. It also has 700,000 VoD views on the GOMTV site. That's pretty damn good for a tournament that isn't on television in Korea and is primarily online. Also Squirtle and MVP, if I remember, were one of the most popular searches on a Korean portal site while the finals were going on.

I think this is smart by OGN. By announcing this is the LAST CHAMPION in Brood War history, even if the finals are hyvaa vs. Shine, they'll probably draw a 10,000+ crowd if they decide to go to a big venue. The hype and the legends match beforehand will make it one of the biggest finals they've ever had.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
June 06 2012 14:25 GMT
#547
On June 06 2012 22:11 blubbdavid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 22:08 Oerbaa wrote:
Are foreigners allowed to compete in the OSL, or is it purely Koreans ?

They will be allowed. The more interesting question is: Will they be able to qualify?


More like, will they be willing to go all out for it.

There's plenty of tournaments out there with very GSL level price money. There exists a continuing spectre of the foreigners simply not seeing GSL as worth it: It takes a lot of time (2 months per tournament), have to live in Korea, gets in the way of other tournaments. Is a huge amount of effort, because everyone has such long practise times to prepare for each set of games.

A few foreigners have made an appearance at the GSL, but it's been more a trickle than a splash. I see no reason why the OSL would not be 100% koreans.
CrtBalorda
Profile Joined December 2011
Slovenia704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 14:27:25
June 06 2012 14:25 GMT
#548
Well I loved starcraft 1, I love the concept of starcraft in general. But now bw is officaly dead. So it is starcraft 2s job now to carry my passion. Sure hope it sucsseds and beats its former in terms of skill and enertainment. That is a very tall order though that I somehow doubt it is going to achive.

Even so if starcraft is to be officaly over for me and some of us, at least in the playing aspect, there are other skillfull games out there. And there are also other things in life I found

Also the guys that think sc2 isnt hard enough compared to sc1 you are ther good guys. You guys help e-sports be a sport and not some platform for companies to advartise their shit on cuz the players will watch it. If the future of e-sports are games like LoL then that is not a sport. Bacouse noone will watch that without playing it. And people watch football even though they dont play it. Also there is to little skill involved.

You are e-sports

We are e-sports (said in harbingers voice)
4th August 2012...Never forget.....
Shadow_Dog
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada427 Posts
June 06 2012 14:27 GMT
#549
Well, I'm just glad that there is no progamer license anymore.
Inertia_EU
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom513 Posts
June 06 2012 14:31 GMT
#550
It's over. I got teary.
SilverWolfe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada173 Posts
June 06 2012 14:31 GMT
#551
So happy this is happening. It's just ridiculous to keep the current BW pros practising two games. We can finally see their true skill level in SC2 if they're just solely practising it.

Ideally I'd like it if BW and SC2 continued on as different games because clearly the BW players are superior and downright incredible at BW compared to SC2 players who usually quit it to try a newer game. I guess it's just the climate of e-sports now with more LoL primarily and also SC2 being more popular while people are just less interested in BW.
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 14:35:58
June 06 2012 14:34 GMT
#552
BW is not officially dead; only the Kespa-sanctioned leagues. And that fact sucks, it brought many of the best games to our screens for years.

Oh well, at least I can enjoy the amateur scenes (Sziky vs. Pusan was good) and the foreign league resurgence.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
AsymptoticClimax
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom249 Posts
June 06 2012 14:38 GMT
#553
This is awesome for sc2, finally we can show Korea how great sc2 is!
as for bw, meh.
i wish my motherboard would find a fatherboard so i could have anotherboard
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
June 06 2012 14:44 GMT
#554
Mixed feelings... Even if I'm not a long-time BW fan I feel kinda sad, but the good point is now Mvp will be able to win OSLs and after he wins two or three we'll be able to eventually call him the first sc2 bonjwa XD
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
June 06 2012 14:47 GMT
#555
On June 06 2012 23:20 arb wrote:
Oh well, guess i'll post only in the LoL section rather than watch the OSL evolve into this garbage.
Hopefully we can keep our BW team signatures though -_-.

RIP BW.

Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 19:32 Fleuria wrote:
a sc2 player finally maybe winning a starleague?!?!


I doubt anyone is going to acknowledge them winning the OSL. Since it's not BW and they already have the GSL.


GSL is not the same as OSL, though. There were 9 seasons of GSL in 2011, and I believe there will be 6 in 2012. Pretty different form a twice-a-year event (or is it three OSLs a year?)
Dranak
Profile Joined July 2011
United States464 Posts
June 06 2012 14:49 GMT
#556
On June 06 2012 23:19 Kontys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 09:24 Holgerius wrote:
Such depressing news. I mean, it's great for the Sc2 community, but it officially marks the death of pro BW.


Well, the funny thing is that this wasn't something the SC2 community (myself included) was waiting or looking forward to. My reaction is very much mild confusion. Well, it might be cool, on the other hand we have so many goddam tournaments and leagues around already.

I am actually astonished that "the" BW is actually coming to an end. I never knew much about it, other than that it was really big. I guess they just weren't taking in so much revenue after all.

The SC2 tournament field is going to be a very tough field to compete in, and it'll only get tougher. I am actually looking forward to what the rest of 2012 brings with quite some interest.


As a SC2 fan, I'm more disappointed by the end of professional BW than anything else. SC2 is already flooded with players and events, and while it may be cool to see BW players try to establish themselves in SC2, that's not worth the end of BW.

synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
June 06 2012 14:50 GMT
#557
Shit... goodbye BW

I wonder if there will be seeding from the current OSL...
:)
QNdie
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland210 Posts
June 06 2012 14:53 GMT
#558
Can't believe this is the end of BW Sad moment, although its going to be nice seeing a second sc2 tournament in korea and how the KeSPA situation (i.e. how controlling players will carry over to sc2) will look like in some time.
KgKris
Profile Joined April 2011
United States164 Posts
June 06 2012 14:54 GMT
#559
WHO WILL BE CASTING?

User was warned for this post
"The spider comes."
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 14:56:51
June 06 2012 14:56 GMT
#560
nvm
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