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RIP BW =( no bickering please!
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
June 06 2012 14:57 GMT
#561
I have really mixed feelings because I don't think this was a natural progression of events. SC2 didn't really succeed BW in any material way, by getting more viewers or being the more popular game (in korea). It seemed to all have happened in back rooms between Blizzard and Kespa.

SC2 just isn't that popular in Korea, I feel this transition at this time is a move from Blizzard rather than Kespa thinking it's the right time to switch. BW is waning but still more popular, and SC2 is not the thing that's growing in Korea, it's LoL.

I feel like for Kespa this is more opportunistic than anything. Take Blizzard's money for SC2, all the while they really have their sights set on the expansion of LoL.

Maybe I'm wrong but that's the vibe I get. BW is slowly dying, I accept that, and instead of a slow decay they grab some Blizzard money, and pretend to make an effort with SC2.
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
June 06 2012 14:57 GMT
#562
Wow that was sudden. =\

I want to see how the KesPA players play still before I get excited over this.
CLG/Liquid ~~ youtube.com/reddedgaming
Bareleon
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
371 Posts
June 06 2012 15:13 GMT
#563
Great for SC2 fans like me. Sorry for those that like to stick with BW. But you guys had it for years, its only fair that its our turn now, right?
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
June 06 2012 15:15 GMT
#564
prize pool and player pool? As they are unknown ill stick to the 96%...
I'm Quotable (IQ)
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria923 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 15:16:35
June 06 2012 15:16 GMT
#565
Well I am excited to see GSL players vs kespa players, but still sad for all the bw fans
Livin' this life like it was written.
Bareleon
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
371 Posts
June 06 2012 15:16 GMT
#566
Also, can we please stop with the "SC2 is not as popular as BW" thing? Dont you know what your saying??? How come you did not say SC1 (not BW)? Why cant you wait till at least one expo comes out for sc2? Then we can see how popular it can become. Of course it wont be popular yet, just like how BW was more popular than non-BW. When hots comes out, I am sure it will become much more popular.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
June 06 2012 15:19 GMT
#567
On June 07 2012 00:16 Bareleon wrote:
Also, can we please stop with the "SC2 is not as popular as BW" thing? Dont you know what your saying??? How come you did not say SC1 (not BW)? Why cant you wait till at least one expo comes out for sc2? Then we can see how popular it can become. Of course it wont be popular yet, just like how BW was more popular than non-BW. When hots comes out, I am sure it will become much more popular.


Okay nostradamus 2.0 I will take you word on it .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
June 06 2012 15:22 GMT
#568
On June 06 2012 23:57 floor exercise wrote:
I have really mixed feelings because I don't think this was a natural progression of events. SC2 didn't really succeed BW in any material way, by getting more viewers or being the more popular game (in korea). It seemed to all have happened in back rooms between Blizzard and Kespa.

SC2 just isn't that popular in Korea, I feel this transition at this time is a move from Blizzard rather than Kespa thinking it's the right time to switch. BW is waning but still more popular, and SC2 is not the thing that's growing in Korea, it's LoL.

I feel like for Kespa this is more opportunistic than anything. Take Blizzard's money for SC2, all the while they really have their sights set on the expansion of LoL.

Maybe I'm wrong but that's the vibe I get. BW is slowly dying, I accept that, and instead of a slow decay they grab some Blizzard money, and pretend to make an effort with SC2.

You're not that far off.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
June 06 2012 15:23 GMT
#569
So there may be some foreigners trying out for the next StarLeague? Cool! If the competition is just BW players the standard won't be as high as GSL yet as BW players are still getting up to speed with SC2. Any idea on the prize-money, qualification system and tournament format?

Stephano is going to Korea fairly soon. Presumably to GSL but he may give this a go depending on scheduling.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 15:30:13
June 06 2012 15:25 GMT
#570
On June 07 2012 00:15 archonOOid wrote:
prize pool and player pool? As they are unknown ill stick to the 96%...


the OSL was never about the money , its always been about the prestige.

This is the tournament that almost every single korean and even foreigner player you like spent their early years of starcraft dreaming about winning.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
June 06 2012 15:25 GMT
#571
On June 07 2012 00:23 revel8 wrote:
So there may be some foreigners trying out for the next StarLeague? Cool! If the competition is just BW players the standard won't be as high as GSL yet as BW players are still getting up to speed with SC2. Any idea on the prize-money, qualification system and tournament format?

Stephano is going to Korea fairly soon. Presumably to GSL but he may give this a go depending on scheduling.


Oh yes plz, Stephano winning the first sc2 OSL, a la Grrrr...
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
June 06 2012 15:28 GMT
#572
On June 07 2012 00:25 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 00:15 archonOOid wrote:
prize pool and player pool? As they are unknown ill stick to the 96%...


nobody cares about the prize pool of the OSL, its always been about the prestige.


You may be correct but SC2 has tournaments with cash prizes - like GSL. So to compete with those tournaments, money becomes an issue. Talent follows the money. That might be towards OSL or away.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 06 2012 15:30 GMT
#573
On June 07 2012 00:16 Bareleon wrote:
Also, can we please stop with the "SC2 is not as popular as BW" thing? Dont you know what your saying??? How come you did not say SC1 (not BW)? Why cant you wait till at least one expo comes out for sc2? Then we can see how popular it can become. Of course it wont be popular yet, just like how BW was more popular than non-BW. When hots comes out, I am sure it will become much more popular.

Broodwar came so soon after SC1 that people dont even acknowledge SC1 for the most part.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 15:33:22
June 06 2012 15:33 GMT
#574
--- Nuked ---
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 15:36:24
June 06 2012 15:35 GMT
#575
On June 07 2012 00:28 revel8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 00:25 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 07 2012 00:15 archonOOid wrote:
prize pool and player pool? As they are unknown ill stick to the 96%...


nobody cares about the prize pool of the OSL, its always been about the prestige.


You may be correct but SC2 has tournaments with cash prizes - like GSL. So to compete with those tournaments, money becomes an issue. Talent follows the money. That might be towards OSL or away.

40 million Won for the winner and 20 million Won for the runner-up. The other players who make it into the OSL get prize money too. Players also get bonus payments from their teams if they do well.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
June 06 2012 15:35 GMT
#576
Very exciting news. Looking forward to seeing if any elephants avoid getting poached by the established GSL stars.
Golbat
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States499 Posts
June 06 2012 15:38 GMT
#577
It's sad to see Brood War go. I only got to the scene right at the end, but I wish I had been here longer. I can only hope that a glorious foreigner victory is the result of the very first SC2 OSL.
Like why do u use an oven instead of a fire? Coz its fucking better at cooking, that doesnt mean you want the shit to burn.
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
June 06 2012 15:41 GMT
#578
On June 07 2012 00:35 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 00:28 revel8 wrote:
On June 07 2012 00:25 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 07 2012 00:15 archonOOid wrote:
prize pool and player pool? As they are unknown ill stick to the 96%...


nobody cares about the prize pool of the OSL, its always been about the prestige.


You may be correct but SC2 has tournaments with cash prizes - like GSL. So to compete with those tournaments, money becomes an issue. Talent follows the money. That might be towards OSL or away.

40 million Won for the winner and 20 million Won for the runner-up. The other players who make it into the OSL get prize money too. Players also get bonus payments from their teams if they do well.


OK, thank you.

So that is ~ 34,000 USD for the winner plus half that for the runner up. Significant prize money.
murphs
Profile Joined April 2011
Ireland417 Posts
June 06 2012 15:42 GMT
#579
On June 06 2012 23:20 arb wrote:
Oh well, guess i'll post only in the LoL section rather than watch the OSL evolve into this garbage.
Hopefully we can keep our BW team signatures though -_-.

RIP BW.

Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 19:32 Fleuria wrote:
a sc2 player finally maybe winning a starleague?!?!


I doubt anyone is going to acknowledge them winning the OSL. Since it's not BW and they already have the GSL.



If I posted something like this in the BW section attacking BW I would be perma banned and would probably have a parcel bomb mailed to me from TL HQ.

Fuck you.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
June 06 2012 15:42 GMT
#580
On June 07 2012 00:41 revel8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 00:35 Ryo wrote:
On June 07 2012 00:28 revel8 wrote:
On June 07 2012 00:25 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 07 2012 00:15 archonOOid wrote:
prize pool and player pool? As they are unknown ill stick to the 96%...


nobody cares about the prize pool of the OSL, its always been about the prestige.


You may be correct but SC2 has tournaments with cash prizes - like GSL. So to compete with those tournaments, money becomes an issue. Talent follows the money. That might be towards OSL or away.

40 million Won for the winner and 20 million Won for the runner-up. The other players who make it into the OSL get prize money too. Players also get bonus payments from their teams if they do well.


OK, thank you.

So that is ~ 34,000 USD for the winner plus half that for the runner up. Significant prize money.

Yes, it's a decent prize, but OSL has always been about prestige, not about money. Flash, for example, made pretty much 10x an OSL prize on a yearly basis, and yet he still wanted to win them because it was prestigious. It's just like how professional sports teams want to win trophy X even though the bonus from it might be less than their actual salary. Being crowned world champion is a pretty big deal, and that's sorta like what OSLs were in BW.
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