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WetSocks
United States953 Posts
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BronzeKnee
United States5224 Posts
On June 06 2012 14:52 Caihead wrote: What? It has nothing to do with what it sounds like after it's been relayed through 2 different people who might be lying, it's just standard procedure when accusations and threats come out for players / representatives that the organization be first concerned about their safety, then the validity of the claims. Same thing works in law, when a person recieves allogations of a crime and threats of violence the law has to protect him first before trial and prosecution. Well that makes sense when you look at it from the legal point of view. I was viewing it from an economic point of view, as in the why bother spending time (read: money) on something when that may not happen, when you could be spending your time on finding out if it should happen. Point taken. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10376 Posts
On June 06 2012 14:51 kmh wrote: Well, this is pretty obvious. The blink action sequence is EXACTLY identical to every other blink hacker out there. The blink hack used by blink hackers has a very unique and obvious fingerprint. It generates the following sequence of actiosn:
With this in mind, let's look at the actions in the replay: + Show Spoiler + 10:41 HRGzack Deselect all 10:41 HRGzack Blink (Stalker); target: x=28.9,y=129.1 10:41 HRGzack Attack; target: x=22.5,y=123.3 10:41 HRGzack Select Sentry x6 (304ac,e051c,50548,2056c,10694,20868), Stalker x17 (30420,30460,90538,205c4,205cc,210608,20650,1079c,107a4,107a8,207d0,2080c,20818,20820,20858,1086c,10894), Colossus (30768), Immortal x2 (20688,1070c) -- 10:42 HRGzack Deselect all 10:42 HRGzack Blink (Stalker); target: x=29.8,y=133.3 10:42 HRGzack Attack; target: x=23.7,y=127.5 10:42 HRGzack Select Sentry x6 (304ac,e051c,50548,2056c,10694,20868), Stalker x17 (30420,30460,90538,205c4,205cc,210608,20650,1079c,107a4,107a8,207d0,2080c,20810,20818,20820,20858,1086c), Colossus (30768), Immortal x2 (20688,1070c) -- 10:43 HRGzack Deselect all 10:43 HRGzack Blink (Stalker); target: x=31.6,y=130.1 10:43 HRGzack Attack; target: x=23.7,y=127.1 10:43 HRGzack Select Sentry x6 (304ac,e051c,50548,2056c,10694,20868), Stalker x17 (30460,90538,205c4,205cc,210608,20650,1079c,107a4,107a8,207d0,2080c,20810,20818,20820,20858,1086c,10894), Colossus (30768), Immortal x2 (20688,1070c) --- 10:44 HRGzack Deselect all 10:44 HRGzack Blink (Stalker); target: x=30.5,y=126.8 10:44 HRGzack Attack; target: x=24.5,y=127.9 10:44 HRGzack Select Sentry x6 (304ac,e051c,50548,2056c,10694,20868), Stalker x17 (30420,30460,90538,205c4,205cc,210608,20650,1079c,107a4,107a8,207d0,2080c,20810,20818,20858,1086c,10894), Colossus (30768), Immortal x2 (20688,1070c) --- And once again, as a reminder, let's look at what human code S blink stalker micro looks like: + Show Spoiler [squirtle] + 13:59 StarTale Select Stalker x3 (10830,10834,1083c), Immortal (205ec), Deselect 2 units 13:59 StarTale Blink (Stalker); target: x=95.5,y=159.7 14:05 StarTale Select Stalker (10674), Deselect all 14:05 StarTale Blink (Stalker); target: x=97.6,y=155.2 14:06 StarTale Select Stalker x3 (306d4,206e4,10834), Deselect all Any questions? Can someone please make a thread on Bnet about this, and can you include this post? and others who are knowledgeable about shit, you have the power to make things happen :D make a thread ! | ||
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Masq
Canada1792 Posts
Hopefully MLG sends him on a bus home the moment he gets off the plane. | ||
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Flipshy
United States83 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On June 06 2012 14:54 BronzeKnee wrote: Well that makes sense when you look at it from the legal point of view. I was viewing it from an economic point of view, as in the why bother spending time (read: money) on something when that may not happen, when you could be spending your time on finding out if it should happen. Point taken. Because Blizzard's top interest is expanding the esports via public relation and relevance in the mainstream, security at these events is absolutely more important than what small economical loss they would take to take the time to investigate it fully, the plane ticket / entrance fee /cost of investigation to Blizzard is paltry where as its image as a company that hosts safe, systematic, and competitive events is much more important. | ||
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takingbackoj
United States684 Posts
On June 06 2012 14:50 Burns wrote: just let him go to the lan, i doubt he will even show up in the first place but if he does he will just expose himself and even if blizzard is paying for his expenses is, maybe it will create better incentives to improve their anti hacking protocols Actually a solid point. Blizzard is a company and they care about money just like every other company. If they realize they are losing money by paying people who actually hurt their game like this maybe they will care a little bit more. | ||
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Adonminus
Israel543 Posts
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kmh
Finland351 Posts
On June 06 2012 14:57 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Can someone please make a thread on Bnet about this, and can you include this post? and others who are knowledgeable about shit, you have the power to make things happen :D make a thread ! It would be far more beneficial to make a tool to detect that automatically instead. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5224 Posts
On June 06 2012 14:51 Flipshy wrote: So is it right for Bin Laden to be who he was? You are making it ok for people to be who they are even if people are doing horrible things? As off topic as my analogy may seem and how unrelated it seems im trying to show you what your saying doesnt make sense. Your logic is that of an enabler, that its ok for people to do bad things because thats just who they are. I understood completely but the fact someone could say something like that is quite astonishing to me. I don't think you understand, this isn't about right and wrong. This is about accepting what is. "Bad" or "Evil" people exist. We need to accept that. That doesn't mean we enable them when we accept they exist, in fact it means the opposite since by accepting they exist we deal with them in an appropriate manner (ie lock them up, rehabilitate them, fine them, whatever it all depends on the crime). I think the problem here is the word accept. I shouldn't have used it. I am not saying that we should accept criminals or hackers as one would accept someone into a club, I am saying we should realize they exist and accept their existence, thus allowing us to deal with them. If Blizzard isn't doing anything about Zack, then they are denying the existence of him hacking, so they won't deal with him. Or worse, they could accept the existence of him hacking and still not be dealing with him, but they would never admit that, it would ruin their integrity. On June 06 2012 14:58 Caihead wrote: Because Blizzard's top interest is expanding the esports via public relation and relevance in the mainstream, security at these events is absolutely more important than what small economical loss they would take to take the time to investigate it fully, the plane ticket / entrance fee /cost of investigation to Blizzard is paltry where as its image as a company that hosts safe, systematic, and competitive events is much more important. But allowing someone to come like this hurts E-sports, just as the post right below yours states. Though I will admit this draws a lot of attention to this event. I will certainly watch to see how this guy does... | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On June 06 2012 14:59 Adonminus wrote: One other thing that can be done against hackers is go spam and ruin their sites where people download the hacks. It's not right to fight fire with fire. Usually hackers have a better understanding of network protocols than the casual internet goer too so even as a tactic it's not very effective. | ||
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Adonminus
Israel543 Posts
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tranmillitary
210 Posts
He's a nobody. iNcontrol or idra will make quick work of him and then we can all laugh | ||
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MLG_Wiggin
United States767 Posts
On June 06 2012 14:31 QuanticIllusion wrote: http://drop.sc/192437 Notes: Prepared for ovie scouts, knows where my army is constantly + he doesnt check for 3rd (barely sees creep on edge, doesnt even look at it and pulls back) Most obvious: blink micro with all units selected. Get out Thanks Illu. On June 06 2012 14:20 KonohaFlash wrote: Good to hear you guys are aware of this issue. Is it possible you guys can just outright ban him from attending the event? I'm just a ref, but I've made the right people aware. They will be discussing it. Thanks everyone who PMed me. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On June 06 2012 15:04 Adonminus wrote: Well, why blizzard can't shut those sites then? It's so easy to find them, you type sc2 maphack in google and it shows you all the sites of the hackers. 1: Not all those sites operate in the United States. 2: It costs a lot of money to file lawsuits against so many sites. 3: Successfully shutting down a site simply ensures a new site will be up in days. | ||
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ZweiGaming
Canada348 Posts
On June 06 2012 12:47 Silenus wrote: look at this thread... you think he's even gonna show up? The thing is that he did the qualifiers... why would he even do them if he has no itention to show up? Just wasting other people's time, maybe... This story is something I want to see the ending. It is truly disappointing that Blizzard does not check on their invited players more than that, as map hackers seems to be the flavor of the month. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On June 06 2012 15:06 acker wrote: 1: Not all those sites operate in the United States. 2: It costs a lot of money to file lawsuits against so many sites. 3: Successfully shutting down a site simply ensures a new site will be up in days. The alternative is also terrible too, giving corporations the ability to completely censor types of material is really sketchy, prosecuting the individuals responsible is much more effective than just restricting the relevance or availibility. | ||
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Polar_Nada
United States1548 Posts
On June 06 2012 15:09 ZweiGaming wrote: The thing is that he did the qualifiers... why would he even do them if he has no itention to show up? Just wasting other people's time, maybe... This story is something I want to see the ending. It is truly disappointing that Blizzard does not check on their invited players more than that, as map hackers seems to be the flavor of the month. maybe he doesnt even browse TL. i wonder whats gonna happen to him once he gets to anaheim... | ||
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HaagenDazs
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EthanKairos
Philippines65 Posts
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