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Keytar
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada156 Posts
June 06 2012 01:23 GMT
#221
I'm sort of uneasy about all of the people who want physical pain rained down upon this guy. Damning evidence or not, you don't sock a kid in the face if he cheats. A round of fisticuffs won't prove anything, but him dropping out early will, and a lesson well learned by Blizzard.

I didn't think the community was this violent.
I try to be rage-free as I game. As you can imagine, this is difficult.
Ghostface_Killa
Profile Joined March 2011
United States168 Posts
June 06 2012 01:24 GMT
#222
On June 06 2012 10:21 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 10:16 Caphe wrote:
On June 06 2012 10:09 Caihead wrote:
TL mods need to start permenantly banning people for threats of violence and irresponsible use of force / assault. This is just getting out of hand. Just because someone else committed a crime and has not yet recieved trial and punishment doesn't give any person the right to say things like this, especially when threats of violence and force are crimes in themselves regardless of how irrelevant or "ironic" the comment is.

Oh come on, people just want to rant or show how frustrating they are where there is a hacker being invited to a LAN event. I doubt people will actually go to the point where physical contact happens. Just relax man.


There's a reason why threats of force regardless of rather it occurs are considered criminal offenses, I very much doubt people would actually go to that point either, but it's about the principle of the matter. Do you honestly want to see people get away with posting things like this on TL regardless of the context? Do you actually care about the integrity of the community? I'm very calm, excluding people from being able to participate in an online community when they aren't contributing to it and are infact ruining the integrity of the dialogue on it is completely logical.


Actually you're wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio

gg no re
Arrested for what, baby? Being awesome?
cydereal
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States193 Posts
June 06 2012 01:25 GMT
#223
On June 06 2012 08:04 iNcontroL wrote:
Problem is tickets are booked and I doubt they will act on this...

I think it's just important that we make sure he knows he isn't welcome and choose to mock him continuously

PS: He is one of the absolute most BM people on the ladder.. a distant 2nd to hacking sure but hacking AND being a dick about it at the same time? Usually those people know not to show up to a lan.. I think we should verify that stigma.


If only there were a large, intimidating progamer who is attending MLG Anaheim to welcome him...
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
June 06 2012 01:26 GMT
#224
Another classic Blizzard 0.2 moment.
Marines > everything
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 01:27:36
June 06 2012 01:27 GMT
#225
On June 06 2012 10:25 cydereal wrote:
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On June 06 2012 08:04 iNcontroL wrote:
Problem is tickets are booked and I doubt they will act on this...

I think it's just important that we make sure he knows he isn't welcome and choose to mock him continuously

PS: He is one of the absolute most BM people on the ladder.. a distant 2nd to hacking sure but hacking AND being a dick about it at the same time? Usually those people know not to show up to a lan.. I think we should verify that stigma.


If only there were a large, intimidating progamer who is attending MLG Anaheim to welcome him...

I propose a face painting to go with that:
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 01:30:00
June 06 2012 01:27 GMT
#226
On June 06 2012 10:24 Ghostface_Killa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 10:21 Caihead wrote:
On June 06 2012 10:16 Caphe wrote:
On June 06 2012 10:09 Caihead wrote:
TL mods need to start permenantly banning people for threats of violence and irresponsible use of force / assault. This is just getting out of hand. Just because someone else committed a crime and has not yet recieved trial and punishment doesn't give any person the right to say things like this, especially when threats of violence and force are crimes in themselves regardless of how irrelevant or "ironic" the comment is.

Oh come on, people just want to rant or show how frustrating they are where there is a hacker being invited to a LAN event. I doubt people will actually go to the point where physical contact happens. Just relax man.


There's a reason why threats of force regardless of rather it occurs are considered criminal offenses, I very much doubt people would actually go to that point either, but it's about the principle of the matter. Do you honestly want to see people get away with posting things like this on TL regardless of the context? Do you actually care about the integrity of the community? I'm very calm, excluding people from being able to participate in an online community when they aren't contributing to it and are infact ruining the integrity of the dialogue on it is completely logical.


Actually you're wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio

gg no re


What is the purpose of replying with a court decision only applicable with in one country, is subject to future changes of law and rulings, when the principle of the matter still stands as well as TL being an international community that we can individually monitor with out the jurisdiction of that court? America passed an act which allows for the invasion of Hague if an american / corporate body is being held trial at the international criminal court, does that mean it makes invasion of foreign bodies legitimate or morally plausible? Fundamentally it's morally wrong, arguing on the basis of tactics and historical occurences has no moral significance.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Boyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States226 Posts
June 06 2012 01:30 GMT
#227
On June 06 2012 10:20 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I'm interested in seeing who his roommate is for WCS. The players don't have individual rooms, so he can't hide in his room all day if he decides to take the flight and not show up at MLG.

It's a shame that someone else who deserves it probably can't take his spot now though


I'm his roommate
Zenislev
Profile Joined January 2009
United States280 Posts
June 06 2012 01:30 GMT
#228
Shouldn't the player or the team be allowed to respond to this post before we decide to go kill the guy? Do we know the replay files are legit and not tampered with? Could the stalkers being selected during blinking be a bug? These lynchings are hilarious... there's a reason vigilante justice is illegal. I hope the moderators lock this thread and any others like it. If you have evidence someone hacked submit it to blizzard, their team, or the tournament organizers. Rallying a lynch mob is neither constructive nor fair to the accused.
ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ ʀᴀɪsᴇ ᴜʀ ᴅᴏɴɢᴇʀsヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ
skatbone
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1005 Posts
June 06 2012 01:32 GMT
#229
On June 06 2012 10:02 Haiq343 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 10:00 Soma.bokforlag wrote:
innocent until proven guilty.. its all circumstantial.. bla bla bla..

sad to see invites being based on ladderposition should be a better system

The Blink hack isn't circumstantial. It's impossible to blink individual stalkers while selecting a group legitimately. That seems pretty cut and dried to me.


Well, there is one circumstance where it is possible. If you have been blinking stalkers individuals so some are on cooldown and then you select all your stalkers and blink, only those not on cooldown will blink. I'm not saying this is what he is doing. But, under this particular circumstance, it is possible to blink only some of the stalkers--and potentially only one stalker if all the others are on cooldown.

A slight and tangential clarification...
Mercurial#1193
MorNin
Profile Joined June 2010
United States443 Posts
June 06 2012 01:33 GMT
#230
On June 06 2012 10:30 Boyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 10:20 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I'm interested in seeing who his roommate is for WCS. The players don't have individual rooms, so he can't hide in his room all day if he decides to take the flight and not show up at MLG.

It's a shame that someone else who deserves it probably can't take his spot now though


I'm his roommate


Throw a party in your room, INVITE ALL THE PEOPLE!!! lol
Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
June 06 2012 01:33 GMT
#231
On June 06 2012 09:52 Mesha wrote:
Zack giving an interview!


Wow he even looks douchey enough to hack. ew.
i like cheese
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
June 06 2012 01:33 GMT
#232
On June 06 2012 10:30 Zenislev wrote:
Shouldn't the player or the team be allowed to respond to this post before we decide to go kill the guy? Do we know the replay files are legit and not tampered with? Could the stalkers being selected during blinking be a bug? These lynchings are hilarious... there's a reason vigilante justice is illegal. I hope the moderators lock this thread and any others like it. If you have evidence someone hacked submit it to blizzard, their team, or the tournament organizers. Rallying a lynch mob is neither constructive nor fair to the accused.


You must obviously not be familiar AT ALL with the replays, and this player in general. Yet of course you gotta add in your 2cents like it matters, when clearly everyone knows this guy openly maphacks etc. There are lots of replays showcasing this blatant hacking, and to say it might not be true is downright uninformed on your behalf. At the very least do some damn research before trying to defend a blatant hacker. Jesus.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
June 06 2012 01:34 GMT
#233
just to be clear I am in no way shape or form suggesting physical harm on this guy.

I am merely saying he should not be made to feel welcome BECAUSE he is an obnoxious hacker who has literally been granted entry to something that someone legit should have gotten. He will play, he will lose and we should laugh accordingly.

but the end of the day the bigger concern should be that we need blizzard to be a bit more informed with their invites. Avilo cried when he qualified, this shit REALLY matters to players and can make or break their careers. Wasting time/space on someone who doesn't give a fuck and actually actively makes this game worse for other people is a huge step backwards.
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
June 06 2012 01:34 GMT
#234
On June 06 2012 10:30 Zenislev wrote:
Shouldn't the player or the team be allowed to respond to this post before we decide to go kill the guy? Do we know the replay files are legit and not tampered with? Could the stalkers being selected during blinking be a bug? These lynchings are hilarious... there's a reason vigilante justice is illegal. I hope the moderators lock this thread and any others like it. If you have evidence someone hacked submit it to blizzard, their team, or the tournament organizers. Rallying a lynch mob is neither constructive nor fair to the accused.

While I strongly believe in not condemning players over an accusation, micro cheats like the blink hack are about as conclusive as it gets. It takes more than a bug to replicate that.
pileopoop
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada317 Posts
June 06 2012 01:34 GMT
#235
On June 06 2012 10:30 Zenislev wrote:
Shouldn't the player or the team be allowed to respond to this post before we decide to go kill the guy? Do we know the replay files are legit and not tampered with? Could the stalkers being selected during blinking be a bug? These lynchings are hilarious... there's a reason vigilante justice is illegal. I hope the moderators lock this thread and any others like it. If you have evidence someone hacked submit it to blizzard, their team, or the tournament organizers. Rallying a lynch mob is neither constructive nor fair to the accused.


Blizzard, their team, and tournament organizers are unreliable. He most likely uses a map hack and definitely use a Blink hack.
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
June 06 2012 01:35 GMT
#236
Obviously this dude is not showing up anywhere in person. I counted like 5 or 6 semi-death threats in here lol
RusHXceL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1004 Posts
June 06 2012 01:36 GMT
#237
The OP is the Spades op.
skeptic916
Profile Joined June 2011
United States17 Posts
June 06 2012 01:37 GMT
#238
With the recent wave of allegations regarding cheating it is understandable that people are obviously very upset about threads like this, but assaulting someone at an event is inexcusable, as is advocating it. I'd like to think we as a community have shown ourselves to be a bit more mature, at least in people's perception, than a lot of other game communities and I'd hate a few angry people to destroy that perception.

TenJin`Lucian
Profile Joined August 2011
Costa Rica158 Posts
June 06 2012 01:37 GMT
#239
On June 06 2012 08:11 Zaphid wrote:
Ladies and gentlemen, grab your pitchforks!



Made my day.
JitnikoVi
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation396 Posts
June 06 2012 01:37 GMT
#240
wow, people are taking this so seriously its insane... if you dont like a coworker you make sure he knows it? you make sure to badmouth him and spread rumours and talk behind his back? what are we in grade 5?

we simply move past this and anticipate the moment when they get fired or quit, or in this case.. get banned, or leave the sc2 scene
In theory yes, but theoretically, no.
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