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stew_
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada239 Posts
June 06 2012 01:38 GMT
#241
we should take this to blizzard forums, where the mods will at least look at it and say

"oh shit i think we have a problem with the game"
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tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
June 06 2012 01:38 GMT
#242
Is someone going to cast him? How is that going to work?
MVega
Profile Joined November 2010
763 Posts
June 06 2012 01:39 GMT
#243
On June 06 2012 10:35 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Obviously this dude is not showing up anywhere in person. I counted like 5 or 6 semi-death threats in here lol


I don't know, with the exception of InControl (if you don't know him) I don't think many SC2 players are all that scary. I've had death threats made against me at work and I still go in 5 days a week.
bumkin: How can you play like 50 games per day... I 4gate 2 times then it's nap time
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
June 06 2012 01:39 GMT
#244
On June 06 2012 10:37 JitnikoVi wrote:
wow, people are taking this so seriously its insane... if you dont like a coworker you make sure he knows it? you make sure to badmouth him and spread rumours and talk behind his back? what are we in grade 5?

we simply move past this and anticipate the moment when they get fired or quit, or in this case.. get banned, or leave the sc2 scene


So if I worked in a shop and my coworker stole money from the cashier every day, I should just wait for him to quit his job eventually ?
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 01:41:28
June 06 2012 01:40 GMT
#245
On June 06 2012 10:34 pileopoop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 10:30 Zenislev wrote:
Shouldn't the player or the team be allowed to respond to this post before we decide to go kill the guy? Do we know the replay files are legit and not tampered with? Could the stalkers being selected during blinking be a bug? These lynchings are hilarious... there's a reason vigilante justice is illegal. I hope the moderators lock this thread and any others like it. If you have evidence someone hacked submit it to blizzard, their team, or the tournament organizers. Rallying a lynch mob is neither constructive nor fair to the accused.


Blizzard, their team, and tournament organizers are unreliable. He most likely uses a map hack and definitely use a Blink hack.


Neither is threats of violence / force reliable or legitimate ways of dealing with the consequences of said actions, what arguments are these? Can we not agree that on principle threatening someone with force to achieve a social goal, when there exist- ruling bodies (court systems, MLG), other stakeholders (MLG, Blizzard, people with a stake in the professionalism of esports), and official stances on hacking and punishment - is immoral? Rather or not a tactic is reliable has nothing to do with rather it's morally significant, if someone hacked discreetly and avoided suspicion that doesn't make it okay.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
June 06 2012 01:40 GMT
#246
On June 06 2012 10:37 JitnikoVi wrote:
wow, people are taking this so seriously its insane... if you dont like a coworker you make sure he knows it? you make sure to badmouth him and spread rumours and talk behind his back? what are we in grade 5?

we simply move past this and anticipate the moment when they get fired or quit, or in this case.. get banned, or leave the sc2 scene


Its one thing if your co-worker is an asshole and you don't like him because of it. It's another thing when your co-worker is an asshole AND cheating at work to get ahead (stealing money etc). When someone is just an asshole you can ignore him, but when that person is physically affecting your job or position etc, then absolutely I would make sure he knows it, along with management.
Jaegeru
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom676 Posts
June 06 2012 01:40 GMT
#247
On June 06 2012 10:38 stew_ wrote:
we should take this to blizzard forums, where the mods will at least look at it and say

"oh shit i think we have a problem with the game"


It's already on there, though it could use some bumping.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/5626186630
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sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
June 06 2012 01:41 GMT
#248
On June 06 2012 10:39 MVega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 10:35 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Obviously this dude is not showing up anywhere in person. I counted like 5 or 6 semi-death threats in here lol


I don't know, with the exception of InControl (if you don't know him) I don't think many SC2 players are all that scary. I've had death threats made against me at work and I still go in 5 days a week.

InControl isn't scary. he's big but he doesn't seem like a violent person at all. he seems pretty nice as long as you're not a total doucher.

InControl wanting to kick my ass would be scary though.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
Gojira621
Profile Joined October 2010
United States374 Posts
June 06 2012 01:41 GMT
#249
how many people on the internet have threatened harm on someone and nothing ever happened? 99% of the time. I guarantee most of the people threatening the guy in this thread won't even be near anaheim during MLG, and if they were, would probably give him the finger then go post about it on the forums. I hate this as much as anyone, but you can't just go around threatening to kill someone. There is a justice system (blizzard), its just slow sometimes. I'm hoping this whole thing with Spades pretty much explodes into all major and well known hackers being exposed and removed from the community for awhile, or possibly forever. Then we can keep enjoying this amazing game rite? :3
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Zenislev
Profile Joined January 2009
United States280 Posts
June 06 2012 01:41 GMT
#250
On June 06 2012 10:34 pileopoop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 10:30 Zenislev wrote:
Shouldn't the player or the team be allowed to respond to this post before we decide to go kill the guy? Do we know the replay files are legit and not tampered with? Could the stalkers being selected during blinking be a bug? These lynchings are hilarious... there's a reason vigilante justice is illegal. I hope the moderators lock this thread and any others like it. If you have evidence someone hacked submit it to blizzard, their team, or the tournament organizers. Rallying a lynch mob is neither constructive nor fair to the accused.


Blizzard, their team, and tournament organizers are unreliable. He most likely uses a map hack and definitely use a Blink hack.


If they are unreliable then so be it, their tournament will suffer because of it. But taking matters into our own hands like this is irresponsible because when mob mentality takes control there's no way you can convince people you're innocent. I'd rather let the people in charge handle this rationally instead of allowing things to potentially get out of control and someone get hurt.
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Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
June 06 2012 01:42 GMT
#251
On June 06 2012 10:30 Boyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 10:20 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I'm interested in seeing who his roommate is for WCS. The players don't have individual rooms, so he can't hide in his room all day if he decides to take the flight and not show up at MLG.

It's a shame that someone else who deserves it probably can't take his spot now though


I'm his roommate


How big are you?

Seriously, no violence folks. The favorite game of many and raison d'être of this website is going down partly because of a few cheaters, a random maphacker dude deserves more pity than anything.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
June 06 2012 01:42 GMT
#252
woah guys stop accusting him of hacking. he could get really sad and quit the team, we don't want to ruin a hackers career now do we?
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
June 06 2012 01:42 GMT
#253
On June 06 2012 10:34 iNcontroL wrote:
just to be clear I am in no way shape or form suggesting physical harm on this guy.

I am merely saying he should not be made to feel welcome BECAUSE he is an obnoxious hacker who has literally been granted entry to something that someone legit should have gotten. He will play, he will lose and we should laugh accordingly.

but the end of the day the bigger concern should be that we need blizzard to be a bit more informed with their invites. Avilo cried when he qualified, this shit REALLY matters to players and can make or break their careers. Wasting time/space on someone who doesn't give a fuck and actually actively makes this game worse for other people is a huge step backwards.

Haven't read a post from inc that I completely agree with in a long time .
Yep the second part of your post is many people's concern as well. How Blizzard take on this matter and in all hacking itself is one of the most important thing for the whole SC2 scene to grow. We've seen alot good games get destroyed by hacks, I doubt SC2 will get to that point but less hackers will always ensure a more leveled playing field where hard working are rewarded.
Terran
zoohairZ
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada254 Posts
June 06 2012 01:42 GMT
#254
damn.. maphacker getting paid trips. that pisses me off t-t
TNK
Profile Joined November 2011
United States163 Posts
June 06 2012 01:43 GMT
#255
Sigh more drama I guess.
Yes my name is ironic.
Talicsnake
Profile Joined January 2011
United States31 Posts
June 06 2012 01:43 GMT
#256
One thing that I noticed is that in rep.#2 (from 21:36 to 21:53 @ his 3rd) he is stutter-stepping his stalkers against roaches and broodlings but his stalkers continue to blink amidst the stutter-step micro.

It's a real shame how someone can hack their way into such a prestigious event. I hope he comes to his senses and doesn't even bother to show up, I'm sure he's bound to get some attention for his hacks.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 06 2012 01:43 GMT
#257
I'm not happy about the paid trip but at least he'll get demolished at the LAN.
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dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
June 06 2012 01:44 GMT
#258
What SniXSniPe did here is close to what I wanted someone to do with the Spades fiasco. This is much clearer than the mass confusion of the CatZ/Illusion attempt. For me the most obvious moment of blink hack is 14;57 of the second game where a stalker goes forward into lings
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
June 06 2012 01:45 GMT
#259
Cam we all like, form an angry mob and stare him down til he forfeits? Gogo players!
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Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
June 06 2012 01:45 GMT
#260
On June 06 2012 10:43 TNK wrote:
Sigh more drama I guess.


Theres no drama. A guy cheated, got a paid trip by Blizz and stole somebody's spot.

I've got moves like Jagger
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