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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
January 22 2013 23:05 GMT
#4561
On January 23 2013 05:29 nunez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 05:07 RemarK wrote:
I played a series of games against Cham on ladder a few months ago, here is how they went:

Game 1: forge expand into 37-probe 8-gate. He droned to 60 and died

Game 2: I gateway expand, he goes 15 pool gasless hatch and doesn't start gas until his overlord is in my base. He loses this game due to me being far enough ahead from the build orders, also going for 2-base muta against my stargate play.

Game 3: I forge expand with a 13 scout, he goes hatch first thinking that I'm gateway expanding again, gets cannon rushed, and dies. He didn't find out about the cannons until they were almost done

I don't think Cham hacks, or used to hack, I think people are reading a lot into him messing with Kane. None of those strategies would work against a map hacker.. Also, that long quote of analyzing replays from Cham seems very circumstantial and non-conclusive to me. I could take a dozen replays of any legitimate player and find equally "suspicious" moments.



from the latest replays i have seen of cham i have seen nothing that really indicates hacking, however there is still the admission which we disagree on. it does not look at him messing with kane at all, as i noted in my previous post directed to you, and i don't think the admission is not of the sort to piss someone off.

i have already removed the initial post as i think it's too contentious.


I've given this a great deal of thought, and reviewed the replays a second time through and very thoroughly. There are things which make me suspicious, nothing more, including his previous admission on an alleged different account.

At this time I cannot conclusively 100% prove that he his hacking.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
mindjames
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Israel433 Posts
January 22 2013 23:09 GMT
#4562
I played Protostitute yesterday in 2v2, just watched the replay again and couldn't find anything suspicious, and I guess we lost because of our own mistakes, but I'll post it for the sake of more material.
http://drop.sc/297801
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 00:30:23
January 22 2013 23:40 GMT
#4563
On January 23 2013 08:09 RezJ wrote:
I played Protostitute yesterday in 2v2, just watched the replay again and couldn't find anything suspicious, and I guess we lost because of our own mistakes, but I'll post it for the sake of more material.
http://drop.sc/297801


Hacker name Protostitute
Server EU
League GM 1v1 Master 2v2
Profile http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3026273/1/Protostitute/
Description
+ Show Spoiler +

2v2 match. Protostiute vision. His ally does NOT show signs of hacking.

4:31 engages lings before having vision of them
6:01 Moves to new hatch, just completed
8:45 places proxy pylon at opponent expand, no vision of expansion.
8:50 Binkhack assist
11:40 4 stalkers blinkhack assist (all selected, individually blink)
13:20 Blink assist hack
16:00 Blink assist hack
19:30 Look through fog of war at army
20:36 Blink assist hack

Blink hack proof in spoiler tags.
+ Show Spoiler +
68544 Protostitute Hotkey Select 3
68544 Protostitute Deselect all
68544 Protostitute Blink (Stalker); target: x=23.96,y=108.30
68544 Protostitute Select Stalker (506e8), Deselect all
68544 Protostitute Blink (Stalker); target: x=17.51,y=113.84
68544 Protostitute Select Sentry x3 (b05d4,10744,507b0), Stalker x25 (40544,a0560,5056c,10580,10588,5058c,f05ec,40638,60660,160674,10068c,30694,a06a0,306d0,606ec,1c06f8,1a0748,2079c,9082c,608dc,1209c0,1109e4,1009f4,30a28,40a2c)

69052 Protostitute Deselect all
69052 Protostitute Blink (Stalker); target: x=16.04,y=111.10
69052 Protostitute Select Sentry x3 (b05d4,10744,507b0), Stalker x23 (40544,a0560,5056c,10580,10588,5058c,f05ec,60660,10068c,30694,a06a0,306d0,606ec,1c06f8,1a0748,2079c,9082c,608dc,1209c0,1109e4,1009f4,30a28,40a2c)

69164 Protostitute Deselect all
69164 Protostitute Blink (Stalker); target: x=16.78,y=111.01
69164 Protostitute Select Sentry x3 (b05d4,10744,507b0), Stalker x23 (40544,a0560,5056c,10580,10588,f05ec,40638,60660,10068c,30694,a06a0,306d0,606ec,1c06f8,1a0748,2079c,9082c,608dc,1209c0,1109e4,1009f4,30a28,40a2c)


There is more from another replay in spoiler tags below:
+ Show Spoiler +

From 1v1 replay: http://drop.sc/297773
Player Protostitute
EU Grandmaster protoss.

Does not scout entire match. EVER.
4:50 spots reaper through fog of war, brings stalker into main to defend
13:26 Repositions to defend terran attack from 3rd (somewhat expected)
13:58 Cannons up hard when drops loaded
14:37 Looks at drop out of vision
18:40 Warps in stalkers for incoming drop
19:16 Turns around when drop off screen also turns around
25:03 looks right at opponents army through fog of war
32.42 Again looks right at opponents army through fog of war.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
Chelsea
Profile Joined March 2012
United States6 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 02:35:03
January 23 2013 02:12 GMT
#4564
Uhm, curious... When does this thing ever get updated? I see that nunez posting in here, obviously recognizing hacks, but this hasn't been updated since.. "Last edit: 2013-01-12 17:04:49"
Do you just go back through thousands of posts and update when you feel like it?

Also, does anyone know of any other sites that might actually care about updating a hacker list? Or is this just a problem that no one obviously cares much about?

So sad v.v;;
"You're an island of reality in an ocean of diarrhea"
Fusa
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada148 Posts
January 23 2013 02:18 GMT
#4565
On January 23 2013 11:12 Chelsea wrote:
Uhm, curious... When does this thing ever get updated? I see that nunez posting in here, obviously recognizing hacks, but this hasn't been updated since.. "Last edit: 2013-01-12 17:04:49"
Do you just go back through thousands of pages and update when you feel like it?

Also, does anyone know of any other sites that might actually care about updating a hacker list? Or is this just a problem that no one obviously cares much about?

So sad v.v;;


if you would care to even read the OP you would have answered your own question, but seeing as though you only read the update time and not the content I will answer it for you.


Yes he does it in chunks on dates specified in the OP rather then on a daily/hacker basis
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 02:24:55
January 23 2013 02:23 GMT
#4566
When does this thing ever get updated?


Every recent update is included in the OP. You should try reading it.

Do you just go back through thousands of pages and update when you feel like it?


I didn't realize this thread was thousands of pages long? Also if you read the OP you would know that it usually gets updated within a week or so.

I don't see why you are calling out someone who does tons of work for the community just because he doesn't update the thread every single day.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Chelsea
Profile Joined March 2012
United States6 Posts
January 23 2013 02:26 GMT
#4567
On January 23 2013 11:18 Fusa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 11:12 Chelsea wrote:
Uhm, curious... When does this thing ever get updated? I see that nunez posting in here, obviously recognizing hacks, but this hasn't been updated since.. "Last edit: 2013-01-12 17:04:49"
Do you just go back through thousands of pages and update when you feel like it?

Also, does anyone know of any other sites that might actually care about updating a hacker list? Or is this just a problem that no one obviously cares much about?

So sad v.v;;


if you would care to even read the OP you would have answered your own question, but seeing as though you only read the update time and not the content I will answer it for you.


Yes he does it in chunks on dates specified in the OP rather then on a daily/hacker basis


I did read... and I see it's in chunks. I guess if he likes to backtrack through hundreds of posts, that's his decision.
As for my other question... Any other sites that actual update?
"You're an island of reality in an ocean of diarrhea"
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
January 23 2013 02:40 GMT
#4568
I did read... and I see it's in chunks.


Then why did you ask when it gets updated when it is obvious how this thread operates?

Go away.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
sKlapptNet
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany16 Posts
January 23 2013 02:43 GMT
#4569
Hey guys. I want to report a maphacker in Hots beta. I did not know that there are already hacks in the game, but this one really made me wonder. (i think it is very obvious hacking).
I got dropped out of the game and it ended in a draw. Bnet servers are still online, so no server disconnection.

He is obviousely bad at this game, watched into my army in the fog of war the whole time, tried to engage when i unsieged, cought my hellions when they tried to runby, everything without any scout, prepared for battle without even seing my army coming etc.

enjoy it^^

http://drop.sc/297852
Terran Mid-High Master streaming, http://www.own3d.tv/sKlapptNet/live/301109
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 03:26:49
January 23 2013 03:00 GMT
#4570
SklappNet
I was nice and did this one for you
Post it over in the HOTS Hacker thread here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391699

Follow the guidlines in the OP in that thread to compose your report. Keep it neat and tidy and clear and to the point.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
Chelsea
Profile Joined March 2012
United States6 Posts
January 23 2013 03:04 GMT
#4571
On January 23 2013 11:40 TechNoTrance wrote:
Show nested quote +
I did read... and I see it's in chunks.


Then why did you ask when it gets updated when it is obvious how this thread operates?

Go away.


I asked because it hardly gets updated, and saw that dude posting a lot, figured I'd ask
Don't have to be so mean "go away"
Sorry it's frustrating me; it's annoying that there's hardly anything done to cheaters/hackers.
"You're an island of reality in an ocean of diarrhea"
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
January 23 2013 03:10 GMT
#4572
On January 23 2013 12:04 Chelsea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 11:40 TechNoTrance wrote:
I did read... and I see it's in chunks.


Then why did you ask when it gets updated when it is obvious how this thread operates?

Go away.


I asked because it hardly gets updated, and saw that dude posting a lot, figured I'd ask
Don't have to be so mean "go away"
Sorry it's frustrating me; it's annoying that there's hardly anything done to cheaters/hackers.


I really don't know what to tell you if you think updating daily instead of weekly will cause more hackers to be banned.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
January 23 2013 03:28 GMT
#4573
oh chill out guys... Nunez updates the main OP every couple weeks.

The posts are all up, so a quick search for an inquiring mind will find the little dirty hacker, even if he isn't in the OP list yet.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
-IeZaeL-
Profile Joined December 2007
Spain327 Posts
January 23 2013 10:50 GMT
#4574
On January 21 2013 23:18 Moonrisesc wrote:
Player name: trendingtoss
Server: EU
Replay: http://drop.sc/297296
Bnet Profile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3405176/1/trendingtoss/

Pretty obvious maphack imo.

He's DoKy from Spain. He say that he share this account with 2 guys, but... same apm,same hotkeys,same builds... the maphack is obvious btw.
aka:Wizards-> FnaticMSI ->IImg.IeZaeL ->MYM.IeZaeL . Actually teamless,Top40-80 GM Europe.Twitter: @IeZaeL_7
mindjames
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Israel433 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 13:57:51
January 23 2013 13:57 GMT
#4575
Protostitute just changed his name to a barcode. Bet he's following the thread.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
January 23 2013 14:12 GMT
#4576
aha, nice catch rez.

i try to update the OP at least every other week but try to watch through replays as they come in so the update process doesn't take too much time.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
January 23 2013 16:21 GMT
#4577
Nunez, I'm trying to help on the watching replay front to give you a third party to the accuser double checking them, I hope that helps you time wise.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
January 23 2013 16:37 GMT
#4578
it does!
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
January 23 2013 16:42 GMT
#4579
On January 24 2013 01:21 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Nunez, I'm trying to help on the watching replay front to give you a third party to the accuser double checking them, I hope that helps you time wise.

And I shall check when I can to make sure its not some NA GM timing or thing that people might not be familiar with xD (when it comes to gameplay decisions), so we don't jump to the wrong conclusions!
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
January 23 2013 17:05 GMT
#4580
On January 24 2013 01:42 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 01:21 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Nunez, I'm trying to help on the watching replay front to give you a third party to the accuser double checking them, I hope that helps you time wise.

And I shall check when I can to make sure its not some NA GM timing or thing that people might not be familiar with xD (when it comes to gameplay decisions), so we don't jump to the wrong conclusions!


the perfect couple.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
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