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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.
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On January 23 2013 05:29 nunez wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2013 05:07 RemarK wrote: I played a series of games against Cham on ladder a few months ago, here is how they went:
Game 1: forge expand into 37-probe 8-gate. He droned to 60 and died
Game 2: I gateway expand, he goes 15 pool gasless hatch and doesn't start gas until his overlord is in my base. He loses this game due to me being far enough ahead from the build orders, also going for 2-base muta against my stargate play.
Game 3: I forge expand with a 13 scout, he goes hatch first thinking that I'm gateway expanding again, gets cannon rushed, and dies. He didn't find out about the cannons until they were almost done
I don't think Cham hacks, or used to hack, I think people are reading a lot into him messing with Kane. None of those strategies would work against a map hacker.. Also, that long quote of analyzing replays from Cham seems very circumstantial and non-conclusive to me. I could take a dozen replays of any legitimate player and find equally "suspicious" moments.
from the latest replays i have seen of cham i have seen nothing that really indicates hacking, however there is still the admission which we disagree on. it does not look at him messing with kane at all, as i noted in my previous post directed to you, and i don't think the admission is not of the sort to piss someone off. i have already removed the initial post as i think it's too contentious.
I've given this a great deal of thought, and reviewed the replays a second time through and very thoroughly. There are things which make me suspicious, nothing more, including his previous admission on an alleged different account.
At this time I cannot conclusively 100% prove that he his hacking.
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I played Protostitute yesterday in 2v2, just watched the replay again and couldn't find anything suspicious, and I guess we lost because of our own mistakes, but I'll post it for the sake of more material. http://drop.sc/297801
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On January 23 2013 08:09 RezJ wrote:I played Protostitute yesterday in 2v2, just watched the replay again and couldn't find anything suspicious, and I guess we lost because of our own mistakes, but I'll post it for the sake of more material. http://drop.sc/297801
Hacker name Protostitute Server EU League GM 1v1 Master 2v2 Profile http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3026273/1/Protostitute/ Description + Show Spoiler +2v2 match. Protostiute vision. His ally does NOT show signs of hacking. 4:31 engages lings before having vision of them 6:01 Moves to new hatch, just completed 8:45 places proxy pylon at opponent expand, no vision of expansion. 8:50 Binkhack assist 11:40 4 stalkers blinkhack assist (all selected, individually blink) 13:20 Blink assist hack 16:00 Blink assist hack 19:30 Look through fog of war at army 20:36 Blink assist hack Blink hack proof in spoiler tags. + Show Spoiler +68544 Protostitute Hotkey Select 3 68544 Protostitute Deselect all 68544 Protostitute Blink (Stalker); target: x=23.96,y=108.30 68544 Protostitute Select Stalker (506e8), Deselect all 68544 Protostitute Blink (Stalker); target: x=17.51,y=113.84 68544 Protostitute Select Sentry x3 (b05d4,10744,507b0), Stalker x25 (40544,a0560,5056c,10580,10588,5058c,f05ec,40638,60660,160674,10068c,30694,a06a0,306d0,606ec,1c06f8,1a0748,2079c,9082c,608dc,1209c0,1109e4,1009f4,30a28,40a2c)
69052 Protostitute Deselect all 69052 Protostitute Blink (Stalker); target: x=16.04,y=111.10 69052 Protostitute Select Sentry x3 (b05d4,10744,507b0), Stalker x23 (40544,a0560,5056c,10580,10588,5058c,f05ec,60660,10068c,30694,a06a0,306d0,606ec,1c06f8,1a0748,2079c,9082c,608dc,1209c0,1109e4,1009f4,30a28,40a2c)
69164 Protostitute Deselect all 69164 Protostitute Blink (Stalker); target: x=16.78,y=111.01 69164 Protostitute Select Sentry x3 (b05d4,10744,507b0), Stalker x23 (40544,a0560,5056c,10580,10588,f05ec,40638,60660,10068c,30694,a06a0,306d0,606ec,1c06f8,1a0748,2079c,9082c,608dc,1209c0,1109e4,1009f4,30a28,40a2c) There is more from another replay in spoiler tags below: + Show Spoiler +From 1v1 replay: http://drop.sc/297773Player Protostitute EU Grandmaster protoss. Does not scout entire match. EVER. 4:50 spots reaper through fog of war, brings stalker into main to defend 13:26 Repositions to defend terran attack from 3rd (somewhat expected) 13:58 Cannons up hard when drops loaded 14:37 Looks at drop out of vision 18:40 Warps in stalkers for incoming drop 19:16 Turns around when drop off screen also turns around 25:03 looks right at opponents army through fog of war 32.42 Again looks right at opponents army through fog of war.
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Uhm, curious... When does this thing ever get updated? I see that nunez posting in here, obviously recognizing hacks, but this hasn't been updated since.. "Last edit: 2013-01-12 17:04:49" Do you just go back through thousands of posts and update when you feel like it?
Also, does anyone know of any other sites that might actually care about updating a hacker list? Or is this just a problem that no one obviously cares much about?
So sad v.v;;
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On January 23 2013 11:12 Chelsea wrote: Uhm, curious... When does this thing ever get updated? I see that nunez posting in here, obviously recognizing hacks, but this hasn't been updated since.. "Last edit: 2013-01-12 17:04:49" Do you just go back through thousands of pages and update when you feel like it?
Also, does anyone know of any other sites that might actually care about updating a hacker list? Or is this just a problem that no one obviously cares much about?
So sad v.v;;
if you would care to even read the OP you would have answered your own question, but seeing as though you only read the update time and not the content I will answer it for you.
Yes he does it in chunks on dates specified in the OP rather then on a daily/hacker basis
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When does this thing ever get updated?
Every recent update is included in the OP. You should try reading it.
Do you just go back through thousands of pages and update when you feel like it?
I didn't realize this thread was thousands of pages long? Also if you read the OP you would know that it usually gets updated within a week or so.
I don't see why you are calling out someone who does tons of work for the community just because he doesn't update the thread every single day.
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On January 23 2013 11:18 Fusa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2013 11:12 Chelsea wrote: Uhm, curious... When does this thing ever get updated? I see that nunez posting in here, obviously recognizing hacks, but this hasn't been updated since.. "Last edit: 2013-01-12 17:04:49" Do you just go back through thousands of pages and update when you feel like it?
Also, does anyone know of any other sites that might actually care about updating a hacker list? Or is this just a problem that no one obviously cares much about?
So sad v.v;; if you would care to even read the OP you would have answered your own question, but seeing as though you only read the update time and not the content I will answer it for you. Yes he does it in chunks on dates specified in the OP rather then on a daily/hacker basis
I did read... and I see it's in chunks. I guess if he likes to backtrack through hundreds of posts, that's his decision. As for my other question... Any other sites that actual update?
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I did read... and I see it's in chunks.
Then why did you ask when it gets updated when it is obvious how this thread operates?
Go away.
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Hey guys. I want to report a maphacker in Hots beta. I did not know that there are already hacks in the game, but this one really made me wonder. (i think it is very obvious hacking). I got dropped out of the game and it ended in a draw. Bnet servers are still online, so no server disconnection.
He is obviousely bad at this game, watched into my army in the fog of war the whole time, tried to engage when i unsieged, cought my hellions when they tried to runby, everything without any scout, prepared for battle without even seing my army coming etc.
enjoy it^^
http://drop.sc/297852
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On January 23 2013 11:40 TechNoTrance wrote:Then why did you ask when it gets updated when it is obvious how this thread operates? Go away.
I asked because it hardly gets updated, and saw that dude posting a lot, figured I'd ask Don't have to be so mean "go away" Sorry it's frustrating me; it's annoying that there's hardly anything done to cheaters/hackers.
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On January 23 2013 12:04 Chelsea wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2013 11:40 TechNoTrance wrote:I did read... and I see it's in chunks. Then why did you ask when it gets updated when it is obvious how this thread operates? Go away. I asked because it hardly gets updated, and saw that dude posting a lot, figured I'd ask Don't have to be so mean "go away" Sorry it's frustrating me; it's annoying that there's hardly anything done to cheaters/hackers.
I really don't know what to tell you if you think updating daily instead of weekly will cause more hackers to be banned.
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oh chill out guys... Nunez updates the main OP every couple weeks.
The posts are all up, so a quick search for an inquiring mind will find the little dirty hacker, even if he isn't in the OP list yet.
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He's DoKy from Spain. He say that he share this account with 2 guys, but... same apm,same hotkeys,same builds... the maphack is obvious btw.
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Protostitute just changed his name to a barcode. Bet he's following the thread.
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aha, nice catch rez.
i try to update the OP at least every other week but try to watch through replays as they come in so the update process doesn't take too much time.
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Nunez, I'm trying to help on the watching replay front to give you a third party to the accuser double checking them, I hope that helps you time wise.
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On January 24 2013 01:21 Grimmyman123 wrote: Nunez, I'm trying to help on the watching replay front to give you a third party to the accuser double checking them, I hope that helps you time wise. And I shall check when I can to make sure its not some NA GM timing or thing that people might not be familiar with xD (when it comes to gameplay decisions), so we don't jump to the wrong conclusions!
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On January 24 2013 01:42 EtherealDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2013 01:21 Grimmyman123 wrote: Nunez, I'm trying to help on the watching replay front to give you a third party to the accuser double checking them, I hope that helps you time wise. And I shall check when I can to make sure its not some NA GM timing or thing that people might not be familiar with xD (when it comes to gameplay decisions), so we don't jump to the wrong conclusions!
the perfect couple.
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